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Title: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: FERoadster on September 22, 2015, 01:51:06 AM
I've got 4 intakes I'll supply

1958-9 Edsel "higher riser"  Cast Iron 4bbl you supply the carb. (lightest of all CI intakes @ 72 Lb.)

Edelbrock 3X2 with Stromberg WW mounts  More CFM on each carb

Edelbrock 6X2 with Stromberg WW's  1"adapters for the 4X3 base and to clear the Valve Covers

Latham Supercharger Intake and Supercharger with all pulleys but adapted to 6 Stromberg WW's (I expect this to be like a miniature dog pulling a truck pull sled)

Just putting this out there for future consideration

Richard >>> FERoadster
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: jayb on September 22, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
Thanks for the offer Richard, it would be interesting to test those.  The thing with the book though is that it has to be a specific number of pages, in increments of 16, due to printing constraints, and re-formatting the book to add those intake tests would be a very time consuming task.  However, I have found a few other intakes I would like to test, and may just make it a post or two on the forum at some point.  If I get ready to do that, I'll get back to you on this - Jay
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: Joe-JDC on September 22, 2015, 08:53:51 PM
I've got a couple of intakes also, that you might be interested in testing.  Especially if you wanted a ported version of a couple of them.  Ported 6V,  LR 8V ported, Street Dominator(3) 390HP ported, and a couple of your adapters with EFI, or Torker with divider.  Just ideas for thought.  Might even bring them up to save shipping, and help with the dyno testing???  LOL

Also, Survival ported, KCII CNC, BBM stock, BBM ported, Edelbrock ported, just to fuel the debates.    Joe-JDC
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: chris401 on September 22, 2015, 10:08:48 PM
1958-9 Edsel "higher riser"  Cast Iron 4bbl
Can I see a picture of it?
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: TomP on September 24, 2015, 12:27:42 AM
I think I've got one of those Edsel ones, it was painted white. 575--- number. I was going to use it on my 61 meteor wagon's 332 but it has no place for a temperature sender.
Title: Intake Comparo? Part Deu or deuxième partie
Post by: TorinoBP88 on September 24, 2015, 11:22:43 AM
Jay, maybe with Online Publishing now, you could do a low run of intake part two, cream of the crop plus new data/tests of SOHC stuff.

Dont you just love everyone else giving out 'great ideas' for how to do everything?

:-)

Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: FERoadster on September 24, 2015, 09:46:27 PM
Here are a few pictures of the 1958 Edsel manifold

TomP if you note the temp sender is in the WP bypass tube.

Richard >>> FERoadster

Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: chris401 on September 25, 2015, 06:01:15 PM
Looks taller than the C6AE-G, close to the C8OE-C?
Thanks
Title: Early 5750034 Intake.
Post by: chris401 on October 30, 2015, 10:20:25 AM
7B-S = Was cast on Monday December 23, 1957. If the letter I was used its Tuesday December 24.

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Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: fekbmax on October 30, 2015, 10:25:40 AM
I'd love to see the 351c 4v funnel Web tested on the adapter... !!!! 
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: machoneman on October 30, 2015, 12:06:38 PM
I'd also 'vote' more to see a lot of older and more modern Cleveland architecture intakes on Jay's new adaptor than some older pure FE intakes....since a lot of those old dogs likely are no better, or worse, than the ones Jay has already tested. My 2 cents!   ;)
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: jayb on October 30, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
I had to back burner the dyno mule for the intake adapter tests a while back, but I'll be back on it now in the next few weeks, so I should have some data on the intake adapter with various 351C intakes soon...
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: newfalconowner on October 31, 2015, 04:24:13 AM
want to test my tunnel ram?  8)
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: jayb on October 31, 2015, 04:29:37 AM
Maybe, this is the one with the EFI setup, right?  When I get the dyno mule ready to go we can discuss that...
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: newfalconowner on October 31, 2015, 04:40:11 AM
yes
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: afret on December 14, 2015, 05:07:54 PM
Jay, I know it's a lot of work and you have a bunch of other projects going on but do you think you'll have a chance to test that Cleveland Strip Dominator intake on your test mule some time next year?  I wonder how it compares to a regular FE Victor.
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: jayb on December 14, 2015, 09:42:51 PM
Earl, I have a new dyno mule going together now, hopefully on the pump towards the end of January.  I plan to test it then.  If you need the intake before then just let me know, and I'll send it right back - Jay
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: afret on December 14, 2015, 10:55:22 PM
Thanks, Jay, that sounds great!  I'm in no rush.  I don't have heaters in my garages yet so it's kind of cold now up here in North Idaho to do much work on cars.   :)
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: thatdarncat on December 15, 2015, 12:06:07 AM
I've got a couple Cleveland manifolds I'm hoping Jay will test too, trust me I keep bringing the subject up every couple months  :D
Title: Re: Jay: any chance of a second edition of the Intake Comparo? 4 not tested.
Post by: Qikbbstang on December 15, 2015, 05:33:18 PM
Well here goes long held back criticism. On the plus side however it's all I ever came up with against the GFEIC....Disappointed me big-time devoting space in Jay's book to Blair's "top secret" Port-O-Sonic. Now I realize Blair's Offy POS intake was from a state of the art Super Stock, make that "$upper $tock FE" where it's CIA like cloak & dagger supposedly what goes on inside their motor$.  But still it may as well have been from a black box. Only reason being what was done to Blair's intake was never described or pictured. Anyone that reads Jay's book has not a clue "what" it takes to make a  Port-O-Sonic perform or how it performs with such and such work done to it. It was a use it stock or not at all endorsement.

           Especially missing was perhaps a "slight" DIY port or touch up job like the other single planes were blessed with. The box stock POS came out as a so-so performer or something that when TRICKED (?) was right up there with and sometimes beating a Vic 427.... Just no idea of how it did it.  While Jay was putting together his GFEIC book and posting bits a few "racers" posted/shared some pic's of their own uniquely modified Offy POS's. I found it especially interesting because the POS itself is darn old, yet very unique in design - just like the FE itself! (the old underdog stuff)  To quote one racer he still ran his POS over the Vic427 and he'd raced them both. 
     In the case of the STREET MASTER and STREET DOMINATOR's it was known to all they got their chokers in the plenum's removed by-the-book. Any reader likely did the same if he chose to run a STREET MASTER or STREET DOMINATOR on his FE after reading Jays book .  For all intent and purposes Blair's Port-O-Sonic is like Jon Kaase's 2015 vintage Ford aftermarket alum heads that were re-worked so much even their DNA could not tell what they came from. Kaases's use of those heads indicated nothing at all to any guy that was wondering how'd they work on his mill?.................unfortunately it's ditto on the modified POS