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Title: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on August 13, 2015, 09:36:14 PM
I have been chugging along preparing and testing my Lincoln for the competition in Oct..  A lot of home made parts have been tried.

Here is my latest manifold

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Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: jayb on August 13, 2015, 09:51:51 PM
Nice port plates, Royce.  What engine was the manifold originally designed for?
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Nightmist66 on August 13, 2015, 09:56:17 PM
That's an interesting setup. I love the repurposed throttle bodies. :) One thing I'm a little confused on is the intake/head setup. Are the heads traditional stacked runners like stock or are the ports vertical and spaced front to back? If the ports are stacked it looks like both injectors would be going into just the top runner, unless the head spacer is open and the fuel gets dumped into both runners at the same time. Just curious how it is set up.
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Joe-JDC on August 13, 2015, 10:29:02 PM
Now don't ya'll rib him about that intake brand.  It came off a marine engine.  The ports are very similar to a (cough, cough) sbc. ;D  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on August 13, 2015, 10:45:05 PM
Jay  I wanted to make sure those port plates did not bend when i tightened them down  lol

The Lincoln Y Block does not have stacked ports.  They are paired side by each. like brand X.   I re-purposed a scrub intake for this job.  I experienced no pain cutting it up to fit. 
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Nightmist66 on August 13, 2015, 10:53:28 PM
The Lincoln Y Block does not have stacked ports.  They are paired side by each. like brand X.   I re-purposed a scrub intake for this job.  I experienced no pain cutting it up to fit.

Ok, I just needed a little educating on the y block. I bet you didn't experience any pain at all, lol.
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Qikbbstang on August 14, 2015, 08:50:36 AM
Royce that intake gives me an indication your Y-block seriously commited to high RPM hook, line and sinker............... I presume you have plans for equally bad-ass valvetrain and headers?..... 
Can you share what kind of rev's you're thinking it will be doing?
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on August 14, 2015, 11:01:31 AM
The contest rpm range is 3-6000 rpm, pretty modest...
 Although that looks like a high rpm setup, my objective is to use long runners with high velocity to pump up midrange torque. By using port fuel injection all the fuel separation and distribution issues of a big Plenum manifold should be eliminated.. We will see.

 If I had to guess I would say i will probably end up using a ported Holley Strip Dominator single plane manifold  a Holley HP 750 carb. 1.75 primary tube headers 32 inches long into a 3 inch collector

My valve train consists of a solid roller cam, PAC beehive valve springs, and Harlan Sharp 1.6 rocker on stock shafts and stands. it has proven very reliable at 7000 plus rpm
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Joe-JDC on August 14, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
BB, this is the EMC entry engine in Vintage Class.  The dyno pulls are from 3000-6000 rpm.  Nothing will be shared until after the competition to keep the competition from knowing how things are progressing.    Joe-JDC
Title: Re: EMC progress... Dressed for the party
Post by: Royce on September 29, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
A week from Thurs I will be in Lima Oh running my Lincoln Y Block in the Vintage class at Engine Masters.  My chances of finishing in the money are not good but I was hoping for a few votes for best dressed..  I decided to go with the 1957 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser version..


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Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: jayb on September 29, 2015, 10:05:54 PM
Royce, those are awesome, AWESOME valve covers!!  I've never seen them before; are they stock?  My Dad bought a 57(?) Mercury convertible brand new with the turnpike cruiser engine; my earliest car memory is running my hand along the concave section of the rear quarter panel, probably about 1963.  I wish I'd have known back then to look under the hood!
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: WConley on September 29, 2015, 10:43:35 PM
Jay - I believe those are indeed stock rocker covers.  That is a BITCHIN' engine!

There was a great picture of a '57 Turnpike Cruiser in the Dyno building at Ford.  I always liked those...  The chrome air inlets along the top of the hardtop windshield are so unique and so fifties!
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Barry_R on September 29, 2015, 10:56:09 PM
I really love the way that deal looks.  Best of luck down there - I look forward to seeing you guys on Thursday.
I run on Friday and it looks like it'll be a classic "last minute" deal getting it done...
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: cjshaker on September 30, 2015, 07:23:06 AM
Back when even the engines were dressed to the hilt! The Turnpike Cruiser was the epitome of '50s excess in car design. Beautiful cars, and about $50k worth of chrome in today's world!

Maybe they'll let me stand outside of the UNOH building and smell the exhaust. Or I'll dig out my 1920's collapsible camera and tell them I'm with the Lima News, doing a photo shoot. ;D
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on September 30, 2015, 08:06:44 AM
Jay those indeed are stock valve covers  .All 57 Mercurys with 368s had these covers. The factory only put one Turnpike Cruiser emblem on the engine, on the passenger side valve cover. This is because the air cleaner intake obscured the driver side valve cover. To avoid an asymmetrical look I put a pair of them on my motor..

Too bad that early exposure to 57 Mercs did not stick Jay.  You could have been part of the wonderful world of Y blocks..(every one is a side oiler)
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on September 30, 2015, 08:12:18 AM
Doug,  observers are welcome and I could use a posse. There is a spot behind the dyno room where the exhaust system exits the building. There are always people sitting there listening to engines warm up and sing at full throttle.. It is known as the "wall" and engines never sounded so sweet as they do from that spot.. I think it has to do with the very long dyno exhaust system which produces a very low rumbling sound.
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: BruceS on September 30, 2015, 09:02:05 AM
Royce, my Dad was a Ford Division employee in '57 so I didn't get much Merc exposure, so I also haven't seen those covers either!   Best of success at the EMC, be sure and let us know how it turns out. 

Bruce
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: cjshaker on September 30, 2015, 09:16:02 AM
Royce, that would be great! I have 3 vacation days to use up by the 20th and I couldn't think of a better way to use one, even if only to stand in the background and watch. UNOH is a big place so I'll have to figure out which building the dyno is in. I'm sure a call will answer that. If it's nice, I'd even drive the Mach over.
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Joe-JDC on September 30, 2015, 10:55:40 AM
It's already a winner in the looks department, and there is an outline of the state of TEXAS on the side! LOL  Just needs a star over SATX!   ;D  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: thatdarncat on September 30, 2015, 11:05:46 AM
Royce, a question - now that you changed the valve covers from the previous ones where are you running the crankcase breather?
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: turbohunter on September 30, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
I thinking about that also Kevin.m
I'll bet if he wanted to, he could rig up something off the back of the valley cover, cutting out the valve cover location.
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on September 30, 2015, 01:13:38 PM
The breather will be in the stock location on the front of the engine. It opens into the front cover space. In the picture the hole is covered by a rubber plug because of the VC breathers.. It will be just a  filler tube with a vented cap
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: 57 lima bean on September 30, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
Lima Oh....Isn't that where the engine was manufactured?Best of luck Royce.
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: Royce on September 30, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
Steve  You would be thinking of your beloved 385 engines.. Lima was not even a glimmer in Henry's eye when this engine was cast..  DIF is cast on the block... The famous Rouge plant
Title: Re: EMC progress
Post by: 57 lima bean on September 30, 2015, 02:48:38 PM
Went haywire...I was thinking of Your beloved MEL projects. :)SMH....such typing's on an FE board. ???