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Title: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 18, 2015, 07:53:53 PM
Just sitting down to watch the season premier, 2 hour episode.  Anybody else hooked on this show?  I love it that there's a TV show that speaks the drag racer's language...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: john a on May 18, 2015, 07:55:02 PM
Hooked
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on May 18, 2015, 08:18:14 PM
Me too!  :D Watching right now.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 18, 2015, 08:31:40 PM
Did you see the disclaimer at the start of the show?  Something about racing in a controlled environment?  That's new (not that they haven't always been doing that...)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fastback 427 on May 18, 2015, 09:31:36 PM
Love the show! I wonder if the disclaimer had anything to do with the NHRA pulling licences from anyone that street races on the show?  Looks like the popularity keeps going up and up. Its obviously staged but still fun to watch and the cars crank. Soap operas for guys!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Bolted to Floor on May 18, 2015, 10:00:51 PM
Great entertainment. It will be on the DVR, and I'll get a chance later this week to watch and speed through the commercials.

Knew it was staged first time I saw a stand light set going in the back ground. But it's still cars and a drag race.  :D

Farmtruck and AZN add great comic relief!!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 18, 2015, 10:26:05 PM
Love the show! I wonder if the disclaimer had anything to do with the NHRA pulling licences from anyone that street races on the show?  Looks like the popularity keeps going up and up. Its obviously staged but still fun to watch and the cars crank. Soap operas for guys!

That NHRA deal just shows how out of touch the organization is with the grass roots racers.  I'll bet that Street Outlaws has boosted the popularity of grass roots drag racing by a tremendous amount, and what does the NHRA do?  Threaten to pull all their licenses.  Somebody should explain to the NHRA that its a TV show, for crying out loud.  Those guys at NHRA just aren't thinking...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on May 18, 2015, 10:44:26 PM
Those guys at NHRA just aren't thinking...

Why should they start now? That's their motto, isn't it? ::)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on May 18, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
Those guys at NHRA just aren't thinking...

Why should they start now? That's their motto, isn't it? ::)

NHRA-NoHotRodsAllowed
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fastback 427 on May 19, 2015, 01:44:27 AM
You would think that as hard as the nhra came down on the street outlaws, they would all be driving fords ::)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on May 19, 2015, 08:50:52 AM
nhra lost me when they went to 1000'.the old lady hates street, but loves the gas monkeys, go figure.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on May 19, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
One word IHRA :o
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 19, 2015, 11:27:25 AM
Street Outlaws vs. Gas Monkey is basically race cars vs. show cars.  I like race cars  ;D

The 405 didn't do so well down in Mississippi...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: AlanCasida on May 19, 2015, 11:55:18 AM
I guess I am the lone wolf so far. I absolutely can't stand the show. But then again, as a lover of documentaries, I can't stand any of these so called "reality" shows that have taken over once great networks that used to produce quality programming.  >:(  Ok, rant over.   8)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on May 19, 2015, 12:57:04 PM
I like the 6 inch guard walls and the crying when their off the list.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 19, 2015, 01:32:58 PM
The whining and crying is all part of the entertainment LOL! 
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on May 19, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
Street Outlaws is kinda like WWF for gearheads...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on May 19, 2015, 03:33:25 PM
hey, I'm on the list....................#3741
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on May 19, 2015, 04:05:09 PM

The 405 didn't do so well down in Mississippi...

Just some very empty pockets! :'( I wish Big Chief could have made a clean pass, I think it may have been close.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Royce on May 19, 2015, 05:36:02 PM
Notice Jeff Lutz was nowhere to be seen last night.  Last yr he was a fixture..   I suppose he has to maintain his NHRA license to run Drag Week.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on May 19, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Notice Jeff Lutz was nowhere to be seen last night.  Last yr he was a fixture..   I suppose he has to maintain his NHRA license to run Drag Week.

I thought as soon as he raced in "cash days" last season, that he would be suspended. Maybe not? ???
Never mind, I was thinking of Mike Murillo! :-[
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: BH107 on May 20, 2015, 01:22:36 PM
I watch it and enjoy it, but its funny how much the show has changed in the last 2 years. It used to be pretty small, and they tried to make it look like they were really out street racing with lookouts for cops and everything. Now, they don't even try. It's gone the way of other "reality" shows and is much more fabricated now.

It is a bummer that some of those other guys won't be allowed on the show because they depend on NHRA racing for their lively hood, but I can see the NHRA side of things as well. We have all street raced, but we all know its illegal and dangerous and if we get caught we are most likely going to lose our car or go to jail. It looks real bad for the NHRA for their professional drivers to be showing up and participating in illegal activity, even if it is faked.

One thing is for sure, those cars are darned fast! Did you guys see them on an actual track and 275 radials? Murder Nova turned ran a 4.40 at 177 in the 1/8th on the small tires!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 20, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Wow, 4.40 in the eighth is smokin'.  Despite all the fantasy stuff about watching out for the cops and street racing, what I really like about the show is that the cars really are very, very fast...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on May 20, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
No kidding they are! That's the only reason I watch it. The racing is real, and there's a pretty neat competition between the cars. I ignore the drivers and the "showmanship". When you can pull a solid wheelie on regular asphalt or concrete and not just a real dragstrip, that's pretty darned impressive!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on May 20, 2015, 05:29:10 PM
Yeah, traction is impressive for the street. If they aren't spinning, it's wheels up!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: BH107 on May 20, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
Video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arCWHHPocCM
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Hemi Joel on May 25, 2015, 11:22:22 AM
I don't have cable TV, so I've never seen the show before. But with all the talk about it on the internet, I watched the new episode on youtube.
Good entertainment, kinda fun to watch, but I agree it is like the WWF.
I do not believe that they actually race. It is all staged, fake, theatrics. They NEVER once showed a race. Just a bunch of short little clips that appear to be staged for the camera, which was mounted on the back of a squirrel, with a monkey operating the remote, then edited to kind of sort of look like a race happened.
I also don't believe that anyone would let their competitor prep the road like a track assuring themselves a loss, in a race for $10 grand.
I don't suppose I'll watch it anymore, unless they start showing real racing.

Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on May 25, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
I don't know what you saw on youtube, Joel, but it looks like they're racing to me...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on May 25, 2015, 02:22:17 PM
I don't have cable TV, so I've never seen the show before. .

I do not believe that they actually race. It is all staged, fake, theatrics. They NEVER once showed a race. Just a bunch of short little clips that appear to be staged for the camera,....

I don't suppose I'll watch it anymore, unless they start showing real racing.

Oh I assure you they're racing! I'm not sure how you'd stage a guy sliding off the road and just about rolling his car. They just show it from 5 different angles, at about 1/2 second intervals from every angle. That's just the way they film stuff now, which REALLY irks me (I could think of a better word than "irks", but in the interest of keeping it clean). 1 second clips is the norm for just about every show on every channel now. And we wonder why we have such short attention spans ::)

I don't have cable either. YouTube or internet TV for me.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on May 25, 2015, 03:47:35 PM
Where I live, in a 10grand street drag race, the winner would need a fast car (to get away).

Round here, that kinda money, I know folks that'd probably kill a whole zipcode.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: rockittsled on May 28, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
Watched a $5000 race in LA in '91 with a Datsun B210 running a Mazda rotary against Nova with a dragster-type mech F.I. on a blower (BDS?), both sprayed VHT type mixtures about forty or fifty foot down the road
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Qikbbstang on May 31, 2015, 01:33:20 PM
I understand Jay's enthusiasm for "street outlaws" since his cars fit the same recipe for fast street cars. It's a cool line to build a street car that doubles as a race car. I don't understand those of you upset with NHRA for policing it's members involved in "outlaw" drag racing/street racing. NHRA's roots were forged in getting cars racing on the track and off the street. No If's, And's or But's the show promotes/glorifies street racing no matter if parts are faked or not. There's a significant number of young men that are very impressionable to racing on the streets.

 More then that to me the worst kind of street racing is the Hard Core stuff when full all out race cars are raced on the street.. Heck you tell me how much more complicated/dangerous is racing a 9 or 10 second race car on a public road vs a sanctioned track?.....When you have a full race car you really need to run it on a track, when it's done with crowds of spectators forming human guard rails the potential of bad things happening go exponential.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: machoneman on June 01, 2015, 09:03:28 AM
Never saw the program.....maybe on rerun someday.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on June 02, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
Only caught part of this week's show, but...  lowriders??  Let's hope that's not a trend  :o

Dave's new car is pretty cool.  Better than that fugly truck...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on June 02, 2015, 12:29:41 PM
I guess Dave doesn't want to be confused with Larson.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on August 19, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
SCUM BAGS............http://www.journalnow.com/news/crime/warrants-issued-for-men-in-connection-with-stolen-engines-from/article_826f3e68-1b9f-510d-8855-85db92238d9a.html
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on August 19, 2015, 03:58:37 PM
I wonder which show the one scumbag was on?  I don't remember seeing him...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on August 20, 2015, 07:43:44 AM
half a mill. in engines? that's about 2 fe's. I can't recall see him either, unless he was in that geico cone head commercial.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on August 20, 2015, 09:24:07 AM
I remember.....
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on August 20, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
I wonder which show the one scumbag was on?  I don't remember seeing him...
       It was the episode where a fat guy yelled.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: e philpott on August 20, 2015, 11:17:48 AM
I like (love) the show , as for the WWF of racing , just show up at a race and see how you do :)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on August 20, 2015, 12:55:28 PM
I like (love) the show , as for the WWF of racing , just show up at a race and see how you do :)

Awwww, why so hurt?  Their supercharged/turbo'd dedicated race cars are obviously faster than anything I mess with for a variety of reasons (one being my main goals aren't to race).  That doesn't make the show any less BS.  I'd watch it more if it wasn't for the drama and made up story line to try to draw you in. 

Personally I think the coolest race show was PassTime.  I think that was a really neat show to watch.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: whitea62.7t on August 20, 2015, 01:01:46 PM
I just want to know where the get the money to build those cars , sitting on the couch all day.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on August 20, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
I wonder which show the one scumbag was on?  I don't remember seeing him...
       It was the episode where a fat guy yelled.
LMAO!! 
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on August 20, 2015, 01:23:29 PM
I just want to know where the get the money to build those cars , sitting on the couch all day.
Exactly
Since the show has become popular their checks must be getting better.
I'm sure they get deals through or because of the show, but geez, can you imagine what the Crow costs?
All in all, I'm a fan of the show. Hell of a lot more fun than watching, uh, just about anything else.
Don't care if it's scripted, don't care if it's on closed safe roads. It's still drag cars gettin' it on.

The "fat guy yelled" comment is hilarious.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: whitea62.7t on August 20, 2015, 01:33:21 PM
And Daddy Dave build that new car  and totaled it before it ever made the show.
I live in the Hudson valley in NY
Orange county choppers was the same way
Started in the basement of the steel shop
Then with discovery channels money they Built a Huge building
a few people io know bought there street bikes , said they had NOTHING but problems with them
I do like street outlaws but it does get comical at times
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on August 20, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
It does get funny but remember, ultimately those in control of the finished product are Hollywood morons.
I work with them everyday.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: whitea62.7t on August 20, 2015, 01:42:21 PM
And they throw lots of money at some other morons , its all about DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA , reality TV's script LOL
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on August 20, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
I thought when the two spectators got killed there would be mention of it, or a least condolences to the family in the beginning of the show, but no. they did however spend half a show on the dead dog. maybe pending litigation, who knows.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: e philpott on August 20, 2015, 07:34:45 PM
all the main characters for sure have TV money now , didn't in the beginning but do now ..... as far as drama about any street racing I've ever been too had smack talk and drama .... and this was before way before everyone had cell phone movie cameras like now to record , Ford verses Chevy was sometimes fighting words
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on September 09, 2015, 11:29:33 AM
And in other news........   http://bangshift.com/general-news/byron-wheelstanding-champ-brian-ambrosini-facing-up-to-32-years-in-prison-for-burglary-and-theft/
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: thatdarncat on October 02, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
More drama, this time more directly connected to the show. Midwest Street Cars shot up. Many of you may have seen this, but Jay might have might have missed it.

http://www.hotrod.com/news/1509-update-on-midwest-street-cars-gunman-police-report-shows-new-details/
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on October 02, 2015, 09:16:08 PM
I saw that on the Bullet.  Unbelievable that some lowlife would pull a stunt like that.  I hope they catch whoever is responsible.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on October 03, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
It has a Biggie & Tupac look.Sure hope things don't go REAL wrong.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: AlanCasida on October 03, 2015, 07:21:24 PM
Since I don't like these types of shows to begin with I'll be the skeptic and speculate this was all staged as a ratings stunt.  ::)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: thatdarncat on November 15, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
The latest news from the Street Outlaws bunch - Big Chief and Chucky Davis crash. Sounds like both drivers are ok. Be warned the traffic to Bang Shift.com for the story is crashing their server, it might be hard to pull up the link right now.

http://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/destroyed-big-chief-justin-shearers-1972-pontiac-lemans-the-crow-mangled-in-high-speed-wreck/
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on November 15, 2015, 03:07:04 PM
Wow!  The Crow is done!!  Too bad, I had a lot of respect for that car because the engine is a Pontiac, not the standard, run of the mill BBC.

With Big Chief and Daddy Dave out due to crashes, it will be interesting to see how the list juggles around.  Murder Nova is now on top...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on November 15, 2015, 03:48:20 PM
http://www.hotrod.com/news/street-outlaws-justin-big-chief-shearer-and-brian-chucky-davis-crash-during-tv-filming/

Thank goodness for the safety rocks or it could have been bad.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Bolted to Floor on November 15, 2015, 11:37:51 PM
I doubt they are having a great day, but it could have ended so much worse.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on November 16, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
Sure..... well, running 1000+ hp on non prepped streets is a dangerous game.

Happy no one is hurt.  Can't wait till a Kardashian buys a car and gets on the list!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on November 16, 2015, 11:23:40 AM
50 second mark.....neon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcZlpeorIU
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on November 16, 2015, 12:47:13 PM
LEDs
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on November 16, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
Thank you Turbo...Neon would of course not meet SFI specifications.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Tommy-T on November 16, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
Too bad Street Outlaws and Dancing with the Stars is on at the same time.

I guess that's why I've never seen it! ::)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on November 16, 2015, 04:51:58 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on November 16, 2015, 06:58:17 PM
So how exactly does one drag race on a public road, film it, put it on a nationally televised cable show...and not get arrested?
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on November 16, 2015, 07:19:18 PM
They've got the cops shutting down the roads around the area.  In some of the earlier episodes, where they weren't really careful about their filming techniques, you could even see some cops in the background with their lights on.  I'm sure the city is getting a nice payday...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on November 16, 2015, 08:48:31 PM
Here are some of the Street Outlaw guys racing at a legal ??? street race event on Route 66 watched by police.
Last two are some fails, this is why we can't have nice things ::)

https://youtu.be/GJP5H2mHMmc
https://youtu.be/juYEgKgKRtQ
https://youtu.be/TMYtHvR_joA
https://youtu.be/RPZdwUT1JIc
https://youtu.be/eEA0kUtL4uU
https://youtu.be/-5mFyuyIKpI

Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: AlanCasida on November 17, 2015, 01:56:53 PM
I saw the pics on Facebook(don't EVER watch the show) and it is beyond me why they pick streets that have concrete curbs on them. Despite what they say about closing streets etc. the show is still attempting to glamorize street racing. If they weren't, they could use either Tulsa or Noble and just do what they call a "No prep" race, which is another dangerous scenario given the amount of power these cars generate. Sorry for the rant but I am totally fed up with these bs reality shows which, IMO have ruined what used to be quality programming from these cable networks.     
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on November 17, 2015, 02:26:08 PM
They've got the cops shutting down the roads around the area.  In some of the earlier episodes, where they weren't really careful about their filming techniques, you could even see some cops in the background with their lights on.  I'm sure the city is getting a nice payday...

Ahh, thanks for the explanation. I don't have cable but have watched several of the shows on YouTube.

Thanks for the links, Jared. I had seen several of those, including the last 2. I just never looked into the details of the shows.

Alan, surely you know that "reality" tv is anything but? There are TONS of videos of idiots racing on populated highways and interstates. At least these guys do it on deserted roads. Something nearly every one of us has done at one point or another in our lifetime. Unfortunately, there are plenty of idiots who don't consider others lives on populated roads. That will always be the case, show or no show.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on November 17, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
Totally with you Alan.The vid of the guy nearly get mashed between the cars is beyond pathetic.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: AlanCasida on November 17, 2015, 04:38:31 PM
Alan, surely you know that "reality" tv is anything but? There are TONS of videos of idiots racing on populated highways and interstates. At least these guys do it on deserted roads. Something nearly every one of us has done at one point or another in our lifetime. Unfortunately, there are plenty of idiots who don't consider others lives on populated roads. That will always be the case, show or no show.
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Yes I know what it is, that's why I called it "bs" and why I don't watch it.  ;)  Just because people do it doesn't mean there should be a show glamorizing it. I remember not too many years ago there was a documentary on street racing, from possibly the very same cable channel that airs this so-called show, that showed a more realistic view of street racing and why it is illegal.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fastback 427 on November 17, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
I don't know if they are trying to glamourize street racing or just get ratings. Obviously street racing is dangerous, but I'd sooner race these guys on their "unprepped street", which has been closed off, with police and e.m.t. on stand by, than race some dork on main st. with his tuner car with a turbo that doesn't know how to drive. I'd also venture to say I'd feel safer racing the street outlaws than racing up pikes peak or doing the standing mile at 200 mph plus. As far as the crap reality tv, its all junk. But given the choice I'll watch street outlaws over "real bimbo's of Orange county" every time!
btw Alan, no disrespect intended.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fekbmax on November 17, 2015, 06:00:34 PM
I'm with you fastback. At least it's something.. Could be watching the Kardations!!!!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: AlanCasida on November 17, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
No disrespect taken.  ;) I guess I am just lamenting the fact that there used to be actual quality programming on Cable networks like "The History Channel", "The Learning Channel", "The Discovery Channel" etc. where they produced quality documentaries where I actually learned something. Now even when they do try, it turns out more like a docu-drama. I was trying to watch a recent program outlining the rise of power of Stalin, Churchill, Hitler and others but it was very hard for me to stomach seeing WWI German soldiers carrying WWII era British Enfield rifles. In fact all the Allied and Central Powers soldiers were carrying No4MK1 Enfields. OK, no more ranting from me about "Street Outlaws". As I have been told before "If you don't like it, don't watch it" and I don't.  8)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: BH107 on December 10, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Now they've gone and lost it... Chief unveiled his new "Crowmod" tube chassis car at PRI this morning.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on December 10, 2015, 10:37:41 PM
I saw a picture of it, and its ugly.  The show just lost a certain appeal, to me anyway...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: thatdarncat on December 10, 2015, 10:56:09 PM
There have been rumours for a couple weeks, but with the unveiling today "social media" exploded. I read a few comments and mostly it seemed people didn't like the new pro-mod crow. Bottom line though is wether interest in the show goes up or down. People might hate it but still watch. Kind of like professional wrestling lol.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on December 10, 2015, 10:59:30 PM
The show just lost a certain appeal, to me anyway...

Why because these guys that don't have jobs and their wives and kids live in a crappy mobile home while they crash a $50,000 car and three weeks later have another $50,000 car built?  Sounds like reality TV to me :P

We as a culture like to poo poo the whole "get rich, live beyond your means" kinda lifestyle.  We all talk smack about people living like this, and yet we set up icons for our children that model the exact behavior we claim to despise (all the while, silently wishing we could live such an existence).  Sorry, but folks that run a muffler shop and work 30 minutes a day don't own 1,200hp race cars, so why model the behavior?

I dislike this sort of thing.  I have much more respect for someone as yourself Mr Brown, your cars might be outrageous, but YOU bought and paid for them.  My car may be considerably more tame than your own, but they are mine, the discovery channel didn't pay for them, I paid for and built them.  Anyway, whatever.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on December 10, 2015, 11:24:46 PM
Thanks Drew, but my cars aren't nearly as outrageous (or expensive!) as the cars on that show.  A point of pride for me is that despite the money I spend, I do all the work on my cars myself.  I built the roll cages in all my cars, painted them all, built the engines and rear ends, set up the brakes and suspensions, etc. etc.  Checkbook hot rodders don't impress me...
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: AlanCasida on December 11, 2015, 09:18:48 AM
I agree with you 100%, Jay. Mine may not be the prettiest or the fastest but as much work as I can myself and on my Mustang project I am doing all of it. For me building the car is the most fun part, driving it afterwards is just the icing on the cake.  :)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: ScotiaFE on December 11, 2015, 09:37:09 AM
I don't know about that Jay, they look pretty pricey from were I'm sitting
looking at my crappy old junk that is as low buck as I can do it.  ::)
Hat's off to you though Jay, you do walk the talk.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on December 11, 2015, 09:42:38 AM
Well, in truth Jay your cars are something I could build given the time (aside from the GT500 obviously), but they DO house SOHC engines which are beyond me for the moment.  For me, simply building and installing a 445 in my Galaxie is a 2 year deal, but that wasn't the focus on my post, it was about "keeping it real." 

I would rather watch guys like Cody Ladowski and Dave Early race their very basic cars/trucks with awesome 390's that got built in a dusty shop somewhere, it is much more interesting to me.

I'm with Alan, I enjoy working on/building/testing the cars.
I recently hooked up with a local racer that hates wrenching but loves driving.... it's a win win for us really.

Anyway, I'm wishing they'd bring back the tv show "pass time" as I really enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on December 11, 2015, 10:29:25 AM
We as a culture like to poo poo the whole "get rich, live beyond your means" kinda lifestyle.  We all talk smack about people living like this, and yet we set up icons for our children that model the exact behavior we claim to despise (all the while, silently wishing we could live such an existence).  Sorry, but folks that run a muffler shop and work 30 minutes a day don't own 1,200hp race cars, so why model the behavior?

Then I hope you don't watch any professional sport like football, baseball or basketball, because they are typically the worst role models, and yet they're millionaire heroes to most.

Is Chief going to be using this car for the show, or is he stepping into IHRA? If the former, it'll be the beginning of the end for the show.

I don't care for checkbook hotrodders either, but everybody has their limitations. There are some pretty competent racers/wrenchers who have engines built for them to be competitive. Guys like Blair can make more power than most builders, and you have to have power to be competitive. I've only had one engine built for me, and that was due to time constraints, which didn't work out anyway. I love building my own engines even though I know there are lots of guys who can build a better engine than me. But if I was trying to be competitive in something like SS racing, I'd have to concede if I wanted to be competitive. Still, it gets frustrating when you can't compete simply because some guys have endless bank accounts. My next project is a drag car that will be 95% built by me. Blair will be doing his magic to the heads and intake, and while I can do the bodywork, I don't have the equipment to paint. But I already know that it's basically just a way to spend my kids inheritance. And I'm ok with that ;D
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: JERICOGTX on December 11, 2015, 11:00:14 AM
The SO guys hardly get paid for the show. They make all their money on appearances and T shirt sales. Guys like Doc and Monza make $5000 for a one night appearance, and sell about 500 T shirts at $25 a crack. They will generally do an appearance 2 nights in a row at close by tracks. Doesn't take long to make some decent money to buy a new car. With the filming schedule getting a new car was a must. No car, no show...  Now they also do get deals and sometimes free stuff from companies. Why do you think everyone on the show wears a sweatshirt with a company name on it? The price of the parts they give the guys is CHEAP advertising.

Set your racing up as a business, and you then have to spend some of that money , or give it away to the government.

Time will tell if ProMods kill the show. Makes no difference to me. I do not have cable/satellite. As long as Drag Week continues, I'll be happy.

Jeff
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on December 11, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
Where do I order my Jay Brown T-shirts? 8)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Lenz on December 11, 2015, 11:15:02 AM
In keeping with the theme, my stuff is modest at best but assembling my own engines and tweaking my cars the way I want them to be is a big part of why I've always done it.  Truth is I flat out enjoy it, it's almost like therapy.  No matter the level you take it to or the dollars spent doing your own work provides a level of satisfaction that matters in my view.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: jayb on December 11, 2015, 12:31:49 PM
Where do I order my Jay Brown T-shirts? 8)

At the same place where $100 bills grow on trees  ;D
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: JERICOGTX on December 11, 2015, 01:11:29 PM
Need FEPOWER.NET T shirts with a picture of a CAMMER on the back!
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on December 11, 2015, 01:24:21 PM
If I ever get some time freed up, I'ld be happy to do some artwork for you Jay. Gratis, of coarse.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: machoneman on December 11, 2015, 02:12:17 PM
Yeah, we need a caricature pic of Jay pissin' on that Chevy bow-tie emblem!

http://vehiclevinyls.com/products_sized/NEW%20Calvin%20Disc%201%200430.jpg
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on December 11, 2015, 02:33:48 PM
Preliminary design has been sent to Jay for approval.I'm sure it will be OKed just about the time hell freezes. :)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on December 11, 2015, 02:58:24 PM
Hehehe, need an image of him doing a burnout while giving the finger to Frieburger.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fekbmax on December 11, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
I'd be extremely happy with some good size FE power decals....
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: JERICOGTX on December 11, 2015, 03:35:37 PM
Preliminary design has been sent to Jay for approval.I'm sure it will be OKed just about the time hell freezes. :)

I would do something like the 427 fender emblem. Just take out 427 and put in FEPOWER.NET Would look good on the back of a T shirt. Of course I would need one for everyday of Drag Week 2016.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fekbmax on December 11, 2015, 03:45:58 PM
Even some small decals to put on my fab valve covers on the race engine. I'd fly them proudly !!!
T shirt would be cool too, lol.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on December 11, 2015, 04:22:12 PM
Jerico Jeff I sent my proposal (email)to you as well as Jay.Let me know if you don't know what that "word" means in correlation to the photos.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on December 11, 2015, 04:29:19 PM
This is a good thing you guys are cooking up.
I'd be very happy to fly the flag way freakin high, in any form it takes.
My favorites being shirts and decals.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: JERICOGTX on December 11, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
Jerico Jeff I sent my proposal (email)to you as well as Jay.Let me know if you don't know what that "word" means in correlation to the photos.

Would be cool, but Jay would never go that route. Lol.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on December 11, 2015, 05:01:02 PM
Got some pics from PRI. Sorry for all the people in the pictures, it was next to impossible to take them.

Big Chief

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_135614_zpsvxhgyjti.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_135614_zpsvxhgyjti.jpg.html)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_135626_zpsy2pbxnrm.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_135626_zpsy2pbxnrm.jpg.html)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_135643_zps8rtva9wf.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_135643_zps8rtva9wf.jpg.html)

Daddy Dave (couldn't even get the whole thing!)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140149_zpslu0gd0mc.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140149_zpslu0gd0mc.jpg.html)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140234_zpsfjoksg9e.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140234_zpsfjoksg9e.jpg.html)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140322_zpswyvwobtv.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140322_zpswyvwobtv.jpg.html)

Kye Kelley

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140341_zpsgueeyuxm.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140341_zpsgueeyuxm.jpg.html)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/jaredaebly/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140518_zpsz5htuhkj.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/jaredaebly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151211_140518_zpsz5htuhkj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: turbohunter on December 11, 2015, 05:05:07 PM
Hey Jared go over to the SCE booth and meet my brother Ryan.
Or my nephews Caleb and Aaron.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on December 11, 2015, 05:07:24 PM
Ok so I take back what I said about them having $50,000 cars......  Clearly I was very far off.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on December 11, 2015, 05:21:51 PM
Hey Jared go over to the SCE booth and meet my brother Ryan.
Or my nephews Caleb and Aaron.

I'm sorry I missed talking with them. We were there yesterday and today and didn't get a chance to speak with them. Maybe next year.....
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: fastback 427 on December 11, 2015, 05:28:17 PM
Drew, you were only off a zero, $500,000.00  ;D
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Hemi Joel on December 11, 2015, 10:12:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MJEtez1Fhg

This doesn't look like a closed street. It looks like a car barley under control, heading towards oncoming traffic at 130 +mph. 
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on February 10, 2016, 11:18:11 PM
Big Chief's new Crowmod

Making it's first test passes on drag radials
https://youtu.be/xlZJkZU6sAE

And cruising the streets of Oklahoma
https://youtu.be/vofDbh3DYxQ
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: machoneman on February 10, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
Take a close look at the tranny. No blanket nor even a sheetmetal shield (tranny cover). If he loses that trans or even pokes a rod out, look out for one hot time with his driver's suit bathed in burning oil! Ouch! 
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: thatdarncat on February 11, 2016, 12:29:23 AM
Take a close look at the tranny. No blanket nor even a sheetmetal shield (tranny cover). If he loses that trans or even pokes a rod out, look out for one hot time with his driver's suit bathed in burning oil! Ouch!

I can't tell for sure from the video, but most likely that is an aftermarket SFI rated transmission case and bell housing and doesn't require a blanket, shield or covering. Tom Bailey's similar street / pro mod is built the same way.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: ScotiaFE on February 11, 2016, 12:38:08 AM
Looks like he was on FIRE by the end of his street run. :o
I don't think even race cars are suppose to have smoke billowing into the car. ::)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on February 11, 2016, 08:31:19 AM
I moved ahead in the video and was puzzled as the engine sounded like a Y block in need of a valve lash check. :)The in car camera could have had in car sound.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: shady on February 11, 2016, 09:26:05 AM
I hate pro-mods, but I'll give him credit for using a poncho in it. That was the only reason I respected the old crow.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Stangman on February 11, 2016, 11:50:08 AM
The Pontiac motor is the last good thing. Having owned a 64 lemans for 14 years, and raced a 64GTO for 15 years. At least the crow looked like a street car.There aren't many street cars with tube chassis with funny car cages. Of course I am still gonna watch the show, it's just getting farther and farther away from street cars.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: FE Jonny on February 11, 2016, 01:24:03 PM
I do not really mind any of the shows except Counting Cars, what a scrodum that dude is.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Rory428 on February 11, 2016, 06:57:34 PM
I watch the show , just for entertainment, but anybody that thinks those are street cars is out of touch with reality.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: cjshaker on February 11, 2016, 07:50:01 PM
Looks like he was on FIRE by the end of his street run. :o
I don't think even race cars are suppose to have smoke billowing into the car. ::)

The way it fogged up the side glass, I'm pretty sure that was a CO2 bottle he opened up....with a fairly substantial leak.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: thatdarncat on February 11, 2016, 08:16:01 PM
Looks like he was on FIRE by the end of his street run. :o
I don't think even race cars are suppose to have smoke billowing into the car. ::)

The way it fogged up the side glass, I'm pretty sure that was a CO2 bottle he opened up....with a fairly substantial leak.

CO2 bottle is what I was thinking too, the vapor started after it looked like he twisted a knob out of camera view. I wonder if he was venting it for some reason?
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: ScotiaFE on February 11, 2016, 08:46:45 PM
Looks like he was on FIRE by the end of his street run. :o
I don't think even race cars are suppose to have smoke billowing into the car. ::)

The way it fogged up the side glass, I'm pretty sure that was a CO2 bottle he opened up....with a fairly substantial leak.

CO2 bottle is what I was thinking too, the vapor started after it looked like he twisted a knob out of camera view. I wonder if he was venting it for some reason?

That's even worse if he is venting CO2 into a confined space!
For that he should get a Darwin Award. ::)
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: Nightmist66 on February 11, 2016, 09:22:16 PM
Yes, it is CO2. He mentioned it in the first vid.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: FE Jonny on February 11, 2016, 10:10:00 PM
They do a lot of street racing outside of Chicago in the Joliet area, reason being the junk will not pass track certification. No cage, no harness, street tires not speed rated, no scatter shields, no shaft loops, mostly death traps that should never be on any road or track.
Title: Re: Street Outlaws
Post by: 57 lima bean on February 22, 2016, 10:20:46 PM
Had a good laugh watching the last bit of this.They were in New Orleans and somebody got beat by a FEMA trailer..(Length) :)