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Title: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 01, 2015, 10:51:40 AM
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Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: abyars on May 01, 2015, 11:23:21 AM
It looks great.
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: Lenz on May 01, 2015, 11:40:43 AM
Sure looks sharp, details? :D  What's the destination vehicle?
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Post by: ScotiaFE on May 01, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
KOOL! 8)
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Post by: machoneman on May 01, 2015, 02:57:22 PM
Nice! Just be sure to put gaskets under those valve covers....LOL!
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 02, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Sure looks sharp, details? :D  What's the destination vehicle?

Early 1968 390 Block @ .040 (good sonic check)

9.9 to 1 comp

Piston to deck clearance is +.002 (was shooting for .000)

Decks squared, final hone w plates etc

1U Crank

BBM Heads (flow numbers in another post)

Pretty much as in pics the obvious Perf RPM intake

Quick Fuel HR 780 carb (do not like the shiny finish but they would not do in black

1 3/4" Truck Headers

Special Grind flat tappet hydraulic cam, stock rockers

No "tricks" just careful assy

It would be nice to send up to Jay B for a dyno session . . . That way the numbers will be accurate. Not much for dyno here that I trust.

I really wanted to drop it in this truck: 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/6ea726aa_zps0009eb1b.jpg)
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 02, 2015, 09:34:34 AM
Nice! Just be sure to put gaskets under those valve covers....LOL!

That would probably be a good thing to remember . .

I had not "primed" the system yet and it was photo time . .

Now that I have verified good oil pressure with the cordless (75 psi) & also everything is getting oil up top, I can put them on! LOL
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 02, 2015, 09:43:45 AM
Head flow numbers

Intake

.200   148.4
.300   201.7
.400   250.6
.500   280.3
.600   296.4
.700   297.7

Exhaust

.200   121.5
.300   159
.400   186
.500   208
.600   219.7
.700   220.4

Above numbers with the 2.15/1.68 valves
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: jayb on May 02, 2015, 09:59:35 AM

It would be nice to send up to Jay B for a dyno session . . . That way the numbers will be accurate. Not much for dyno here that I trust.



Was that a hint?  ;)  Where are you located?
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 02, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
Yeah, a hint . . ::) ::)

I am in Phoenix.

If I had a good daily driver I could just have drove there . . LOL
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: jayb on May 02, 2015, 12:19:23 PM
You could ship it to me, and I'd be happy to dyno it, but right now I am just starting in on the Drag Week thrash for the year, so I wouldn't be able to touch it for a few months.  But if you are planning on waiting that long to install it, I'd be happy to dyno it.  I love dynoing FEs  :D
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 02, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
You could ship it to me, and I'd be happy to dyno it, but right now I am just starting in one the Drag Week thrash for the year, so I wouldn't be able to touch it for a few months.  But if you are planning on waiting that long to install it, I'd be happy to dyno it.  I love dynoing FEs  :D

Ok, Thanks!

Forgot about drag week . .
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Post by: Faron on May 02, 2015, 01:16:54 PM
Who did the Dist ?
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 02, 2015, 02:37:17 PM
Who did the Dist ?

I do all my own distributors, always have except for once. That did not go well so I started doing my own again.
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: Lenz on May 02, 2015, 03:19:50 PM
Dig that truck, looks super clean and "mileage maker six" innocent, all at the same time 8)
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: YoungOne on May 02, 2015, 05:40:52 PM
Congrats. Hope it runs and sounds as good as it looks. I love the Merc and old PBF valve covers. Was the intake ported or is it as cast? When I talked to Blair Patrick about a set of BBM's he said he would sell a ported rpm intake to match the ports for around 750 or charge 80 a hole to port it. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: YoungOne on May 02, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
OOPS I brain farted. :o I think it was 40 per hole to port.
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 08, 2015, 10:58:37 PM
Pulled the original 352 out of the '66.

Note how nice stuff stays in AZ! Natural finish on the tie rods, brake and fuel lines. No rust. Bare metal spots that are still shiny . .

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Engine nearly ready to drop in . .

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Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 08, 2015, 11:01:30 PM
Finally found a good use for a SB chevy intake . .

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Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: 427Fastback on May 08, 2015, 11:19:18 PM
That would appear to be a small block version of that trans...Notice how long the pilot is on it...Usually not an issue...Cory
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 08, 2015, 11:47:14 PM
That would appear to be a small block version of that trans...Notice how long the pilot is on it...Usually not an issue...Cory

Original trans to truck . .
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: 427Fastback on May 09, 2015, 01:53:34 AM
That kinda makes sense then as the truck bellhousing is 3/8 deeper than the car one...Interesting
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 22, 2015, 01:03:02 AM
Dropped the engine in. Nice, did not have to take the hood off . .

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/Engine%20Swap%20Detail/BE97D353-A9E5-439A-9121-EA066D9661A7.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/Engine%20Swap%20Detail/C22927FE-6F6A-4154-A783-67B4B118C83F.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/Engine%20Swap%20Detail/8836F840-A4BD-466E-B5B0-E75C46FA7F8C.jpg)
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Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 22, 2015, 01:07:18 AM
Of course the headers did not match the exhaust ports . .

Picked up some 5"x 3/8" plate to build header flanges for the 418.

I need a bit more practice with the plasma and to lose maybe 40yrs in age. A bit on the shaky side.  Its interesting how much difference there is if I am going left or right or towards me or away.

If it were not for the operator the cuts would have been nice.

My initial start cuts..

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Ended up using the plasma to cut the flanges off headers. The easy way would have been to just use the band saw but was worried about losing that near 1/4" of pipe. Add the new 3/8" flanges and felt it would have been too much.

Very difficult to get the plasma in there to make a proper cut . .

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The new flange. A bit shaky but worked out well.

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Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 22, 2015, 01:08:50 AM
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Another as I was cutting out the flanges.

My freehand cutting not so good . .

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Another right before I made the final little cut.

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I drilled holes in the bench to hold the flange & gasket while I used the transfer punch so the holes would be more exact. Not perfect but all 16 bolts go in just fine.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/Engine%20Swap%20Detail/IMG_2404.jpg)


I stacked 3 gaskets so the transfer punch would actually work . .

I also moved the flange slightly to the bottom side would be a actual hole vs the notch like existing flanges.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/Engine%20Swap%20Detail/IMG_2405.jpg)
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 22, 2015, 01:11:03 AM
A pic of how much difference between new and old flange.

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/CalypsoCoralBoss302/1966%20F100%20352%203speed/Engine%20Swap%20Detail/B1CA0B82-BC01-45D3-87DD-60FFC6FC7CF7.jpg)

After touching up the pipes I reshaped them to fit the new flanges. Using the tool I had made for 427 Truck.

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I was pleasantly surprised how well they fit! No doubt got lucky. Hope the luck holds out for the drivers side . .

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Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: TimeWarpF100 on May 22, 2015, 01:13:35 AM
Without even checking for fit just guessing how they might be . .

Lucky again they fit right in! I have absolutely no clue how that happened.

New 5.00 garage sale headers, a 10' piece of 5 x 3/8" strap for 50.00 and I have headers to fit the new head perfectly!  Ok, I need to do the drivers side then get to welding. Will probably bolt them to the extra head while welding.

I feel like the dog named LuCkY !

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Post by: ToddK on May 22, 2015, 03:05:20 AM
Great work!
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Post by: Heo on May 22, 2015, 03:05:28 AM
Ground those bottom holes open to a slit.
Then you can install the bottombolts first
hang the Headers on them and just thighten
them up.
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: mlcraven on May 22, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
You say lucky...others might disagree and say it's a combination of 'inspiration' and 'perspiration'.

Very nice job and thanks for the pics.  Envious of how much room you pick-up truck fellows have to work with.
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Post by: NIsaacs on May 22, 2015, 07:06:18 AM
Nice job, and I wouldn't call that luck, skill comes to mind!

Nick
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Post by: ScotiaFE on May 22, 2015, 07:24:13 AM
Nice work!
I'd be happy with 10 yrs reduction.  ;D
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Post by: Bolted to Floor on May 22, 2015, 07:50:53 AM
Your free hand cutting in the pictures looks good to me. Nice work.
Title: Re: Another FE will fire soon! A couple pics "418"
Post by: machoneman on May 22, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
Nice work. Ed has every combo of FE flanges but not exactly cheap!

http://www.headersbyed.com/__ford.htm#Edelbrock FE