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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: jayb on April 30, 2015, 10:56:16 AM
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I was on the FE Forum a little earlier today, and saw a suggestion for a sticky on that board that kept a list of cars and ETs run with FE engines. It will never happen over there, but I could easily do one here. I'm a little reluctant to post sticky topics, because they tend to multiply and take up the first several slots of the message board, but I guess adding two, one for each of these topics, wouldn't be too bad. What do you guys think, should I do this?
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I would suggest it should be a new forum.
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Great idea Jay and Yellow Truck: a separate Forum gets my vote.
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Would be kind of interesting to see how you match up to like cars and engines.
Might be a good learning experience for those of us that are just getting back into it.
And follow your mission statement.
"Dedicated to Building and Racing the Ford FE Engine"
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You can hop onto my website Jay, to my dyno results page and snag some too.....probably 15-20 FE dyno results there.
http://www.lykinsmotorsports.com/dyno.html
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Barry just started a thread I believe on his forum also.
Suffice to say that FE info is growing.
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I think it would be handy to have a place to go for dyno results and build info. Barry had a cool thing going on his sight but it seems like it's been forgotten about. The fepower.net/ home page already has a "dyno results" tab. Maybe the format under that tab could be modified so all forum members could post their build info, dyno sheets and video links there? Or add a child board to the FE Technical Forum tab?
ET's seem like a less informative thing to me. Then again, I haven't made the transition to racing on pavement yet. Maybe soon though...... ;)
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Not all e.t.'s are on pavement ;D. Be cool to see mud drag stuff and some boat drag stuff too!
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Not all e.t.'s are on pavement ;D. Be cool to see mud drag stuff and some boat drag stuff too!
I've got one on salt, will that be ok? ;D
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I've thought about this for a long time. Stickys are great for containing basic information for questions that get asked over and over. They're also great for gathering comparable data and examples of builds for comparison. Most all good specific related forums have them. So like was mentioned, separate sticky areas would be great for different reasons. One for basic FE info, like what head/intake port needs what gaskets, what bore/stroke combo needs what rod/compression height etc etc. Which would also make another great side forum (since it's Jays time I'm spending, and not mine ;D )...strictly engine builds. That would be my favorite sticky area. Whether they're from individuals, or builders, they give great comparisons and really help people make informed decisions. One for ET/CI/HP comparisons is a great idea also and would be the easiest and also popular. So much depends on tune/chassis, though, that somehow that should be included as basic side info, especially over time as upgrades were made and the ET differences that resulted from them. Of course pro-racers wouldn't want any part of that, I'd guess :)
A lot gets lost as pages add up. I just wondered how much bandwidth adding areas like that would take up, which I assumed costs more money. But I have no idea how that stuff works. Not to mention how much more time it would consume for one moderator to keep up with an expanding forum. I already find them a huge distraction to getting stuff done...lol
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I was on the FE Forum a little earlier today, and saw a suggestion for a sticky on that board that kept a list of cars and ETs run with FE engines. It will never happen over there, but I could easily do one here. I'm a little reluctant to post sticky topics, because they tend to multiply and take up the first several slots of the message board, but I guess adding two, one for each of these topics, wouldn't be too bad. What do you guys think, should I do this?
I think its a great idea.
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I think it would be handy to have a place to go for dyno results and build info. Barry had a cool thing going on his sight but it seems like it's been forgotten about. The fepower.net/ home page already has a "dyno results" tab. Maybe the format under that tab could be modified so all forum members could post their build info, dyno sheets and video links there? Or add a child board to the FE Technical Forum tab?
ET's seem like a less informative thing to me. Then again, I haven't made the transition to racing on pavement yet. Maybe soon though...... ;)
Its a lot harder to "cheat" your time slip than your dyno sheet.
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I think it would be handy to have a place to go for dyno results and build info. Barry had a cool thing going on his sight but it seems like it's been forgotten about. The fepower.net/ home page already has a "dyno results" tab. Maybe the format under that tab could be modified so all forum members could post their build info, dyno sheets and video links there? Or add a child board to the FE Technical Forum tab?
ET's seem like a less informative thing to me. Then again, I haven't made the transition to racing on pavement yet. Maybe soon though...... ;)
Its a lot harder to "cheat" your time slip than your dyno sheet.
LOL! That's a fact! There are lots of "happy" dynos out there. But on the other hand, a strong engine can lay down a crappy ET if the car isn't set up just right. There's a place for both data sets, I think.
I'm starting to lean towards a couple of Child Boards under the FE Technical board for this; still thinking though...
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I like the idea of doing it as a separate sub forum. Thats how they do it on another non-ford related forum I belong to, works well, IMO. And I do agree both numbers have thier place. But IMO the best way to back those dyno numbers up is with a mph number.
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Whats a stickie....??????..........Cory
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A sticky is just a message that "sticks" to the top of the board; it is always the first message on the list, or in the case of several stickies, the first messages.
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Thanks....seen it before but didn't know what it was called....
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Great Idea, I think it should have the build details along with the dyno numbers though.
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Some one of these days, Jay, you'll have to let us in on how you persuaded God to let you have 30 hour days!
KS
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It was harder to persuade the wife, Ken ;D
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Some one of these days, Jay, you'll have to let us in on how you persuaded God to let you have 30 hour days!
KS
I could SERIOUSLY use some of those 8)
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Somehow it's odd that FE forum's don't 'feature' a section of FE combinations in detail like eye and motorhead candy. It's annoying the guys that have fast race track FEs rarely if ever show even the outsides of engines as they're sitting in the engine compartment. Have I ever seen a NHRA record holding FE engine pictured on line and detailed just enough to make one drool - ?..... I can't recall ever seeing one.
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Here's John Calverts '64 Fairlane Stock Eliminator 427 HR for you ( not my picture ). It's actually pretty easy to check these cars out at any NHRA National or Divisional event or even bracket races, and I've found most of the racers willing to answer your questions as long as you apply some common sense, don't pester them if it looks like a thrash is going on or they're just about to head to the starting line for a run. I've had the privilege to talk to John Calvert at Pomona a couple times and he went out of his way to answer my questions and more, even inviting me into his motorhome to watch how they analyzed video of the cars launching and their data logging info. I think the reason you don't see more posting from the racecar owners themselves is because most figure there isn't that much "special" externally in their engine compartment, everybody has a beautiful car with a tidy engine bay. The heads, intakes, carbs are all spelled out on the NHRA website. They know the real tricks are inside and with the attention to detail in the blueprinting. Most of the engines ( but not all ) are built by professional engine builders or people that specialize in components like cylinder heads, carbs. People like Blair and it seems like he's always been willing to share his knowledge here when asked. And people like Joe Craine as well. I too look forward to when guys like Rusty Gillis share what goes into building their cars. It will be nice to have a section with some of this stuff grouped together.
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff437/red0wl/Calvert%20T-Bolt.jpg) (http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/red0wl/media/Calvert%20T-Bolt.jpg.html)
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I think the reason you don't see more posting from the racecar owners themselves is because most figure there isn't that much "special" externally in their engine compartment, everybody has a beautiful car with a tidy engine bay.....People like Blair and it seems like he's always been willing to share his knowledge here when asked. And people like Joe Craine as well. I too look forward to when guys like Rusty Gillis share what goes into building their cars. It will be nice to have a section with some of this stuff grouped together.
Ditto that! That's what I like about this sight the most, the Members Projects area. I love it. Watching Rusty build his latest car and seeing many of the other smaller builds and projects, or seeing Jays engine builds, is fantastic, and very informative. Blair has given more info out over the years than I'm sure he'd care to at any one time. Just tid-bits here and there, which add up. Same goes for Barry, although he never hides anything and is always willing to add his tips and tricks for free. Adding an ET/HP sticky or child board would really be the kicker to some of the builds.
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I pmed/emailed three FE vendors some questions about FE heads a couple weeks ago. Two are mentioned on this thread. Barry was the only one who responded. Guess who Ill be buying my new heads from... ;)
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OK, I've gotten started on this by adding a child board called FE Engine Dyno Results, and posted one engine so far. I have several more engines I can post, but I'm going to rely on members to post their info, in order to fill this section out. I've put a sticky on the top of that board with a suggested format for the results.
I'll also put up an ET board for quarter mile data, where members can post track info for their cars. I'll try to come up with a format for those results also.
Have at it, guys :D