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Title: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: chris401 on September 22, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
When I was a teenager I had a poster on my wall of a rear seat dragster with a Ford DOCH. I think his name had Snake in it. Was it a 427 or a 429? Spark plugs were in the center of the head like a Chrysler. Picture was in the 70's and the information said there were only 10 made. Any of this sound familiar?
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: turbohunter on September 22, 2014, 11:27:32 PM
Look something like this. :)
SOHC no D
http://www.google.com/search?q=ford+sohc+dragster+snake+driving&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9fUgVLzuFoawogS8soDQDw&ved=0CBwQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=644
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: turbohunter on September 22, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
I hate iPads.
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: chris401 on September 23, 2014, 12:27:28 AM
Look something like this. :)
SOHC no D
http://www.google.com/search?q=ford+sohc+dragster+snake+driving&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9fUgVLzuFoawogS8soDQDw&ved=0CBwQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=644
Unless there was an identical shot taken with a DOCH, this is it. The spark pugs weren't as I remembered. Maybe only 10 were made specs for his car.

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff469/white65ford/dragsterposter.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/white65ford/media/dragsterposter.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: machoneman on September 23, 2014, 06:14:35 AM
It's Don Prudhomme driving SoCal's Ford dealer Lou Baney's Shelby Super Snake, Don Long chassied, Ed Pink motivated SOHC at IIRC the now long closed OCIR track in Ontario, CA.   
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: Joe-JDC on September 23, 2014, 08:35:37 AM
Should't that be DOHC???  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: drdano on September 23, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
I'd love to have a poster of this, do they still make it?
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: Ratbird on September 23, 2014, 10:16:41 AM
I doubt if you can find a poster like this anymore. However you can always have a photography shop blow it up for you.

Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: RJP on September 23, 2014, 10:52:23 AM
When I was a teenager I had a poster on my wall of a rear seat dragster with a Ford DOCH. I think his name had Snake in it. Was it a 427 or a 429? Spark plugs were in the center of the head like a Chrysler. Picture was in the 70's and the information said there were only 10 made. Any of this sound familiar?
A local [SF Bay Area] fellow made a set of DOHC heads for a 427 FE for a FED. He was a tool & die maker and had the wherewithall and the shop to do this project. The heads were a work of art and won "Best Engineered Car" in several shows and "Best Competition car" in the Oakland Roadster Show in 1969. As for competing I don't remember how well the car ran but it sure was a gorgeous piece of work. If memory serves his name was Jim Gonsalves.
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: turbohunter on September 23, 2014, 11:45:40 AM
Love to see THAT. 8)
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: lovehamr on September 24, 2014, 08:28:11 AM
Ask and ye shall receive!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5582059072_e5eb7b4321.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5581472243_3d634b0f19.jpg)
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: cjshaker on September 24, 2014, 08:59:51 AM
Wow, very interesting and extremely cool!!! Never seen that car or engine before. Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: jayb on September 24, 2014, 09:01:35 AM
Wow, that IS cool!  I wonder if the whole engine is hand built and machined, or if he was using off the shelf parts for some of it (cams, for example)...
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: turbohunter on September 24, 2014, 09:41:04 AM
Uh oh.
Jay thinks it's cool. ;)
More food for his machines?
Bwahahaha.
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: machoneman on September 24, 2014, 09:48:52 AM
I do remember reading about Gonsalves's dragster long ago and IIRC he did machine all the head/cam/drive parts to fit a FE 427 block himself.  Could not have been a successful (read: competitive) engine build as I believe it was never highlighted in any of the rags of the era after the Oakland show. Too bad as I wonder if the car or engine survived all these years later.   
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: bn69stang on September 24, 2014, 06:55:39 PM
Awesome pics , makes you wonder who has what stashed somewhere .. they did nt just make 1 set of heads or cams , gears   ect ... Bud
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: 63gal427 on September 25, 2014, 06:36:13 AM
Found these doing a little searching.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-cobra-talk/102478-427-dohc.html#post1024402

(http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/attachments/all-cobra-talk/16171d1265002849-427-dohc-grand-national-auto-show-2010-020.jpg)

(http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/attachments/all-cobra-talk/16172d1265002856-427-dohc-grand-national-auto-show-2010-021.jpg)

(http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/attachments/all-cobra-talk/16173d1265002864-427-dohc-grand-national-auto-show-2010-022.jpg)

Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: lovehamr on September 25, 2014, 09:04:12 AM
Look down to #333, it shows his engine as an OHC as well.
http://www.draglist.com/draglist/category.php?VIEW=Compact&CATEGORY%5B0%5D=GASDRAG&x=dragsters&SORTBY=MPHRANK+DESC%2CETRANK+DESC&page=11 (http://www.draglist.com/draglist/category.php?VIEW=Compact&CATEGORY%5B0%5D=GASDRAG&x=dragsters&SORTBY=MPHRANK+DESC%2CETRANK+DESC&page=11)

#44 here
http://www.draglist.com/draglist/category.php?VIEW=Compact&CATEGORY%5B0%5D=GASDRAG&x=dragsters&SORTBY=YEAR+DESC%2CET%2CMPH+DESC%2CLNAME%2CFNAME%2CENTRY%2CENG%2CMAKE%2CMODEL%2CCHASSIS&page=2 (http://www.draglist.com/draglist/category.php?VIEW=Compact&CATEGORY%5B0%5D=GASDRAG&x=dragsters&SORTBY=YEAR+DESC%2CET%2CMPH+DESC%2CLNAME%2CFNAME%2CENTRY%2CENG%2CMAKE%2CMODEL%2CCHASSIS&page=2)

Found this while looking for more info on Jim and thought some of you might find it interesting.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/1625173@N20/pool/57343654@N03/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/1625173@N20/pool/57343654@N03/)
Title: Re: 427/429 DOCH: Poster From My Youth
Post by: turbohunter on September 25, 2014, 11:15:41 AM
Thanks for the ride down memory lane.
I'll take one of those cars anytime over a modern funny or digger.
Title: Looks Like I Had
Post by: chris401 on September 25, 2014, 04:50:02 PM
a bunch of facts jumbled up. Thanks for the info.
Chris