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Title: 428cj cam&intake suggestions
Post by: 3pgnebs on August 20, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
Freshening up a 428cj in a customer's 67 GT500 clone and he is wanting to pep it up a little from current specs.  Motor was built about 14 years ago by a mustang shop in ATL, using TRW forged pistons, B&B, Edel 427F manifold, & a Melling hyd camshaft specs: 514 lift both sides with 300 Int(misprint on supplied paperwork?), 224 exh.  Intending on installing a updated camshaft definitely, possibly a intake also?  Block or heads one were decked and the current manifold was cut, and don't know if the customer will want to spend the money to cut a new intake.  This is a weekend car show/cruise-in motor, want be drag racing I'm pretty sure, just wanting some more pep in its step.  Needs to be a hydraulic, off the shelf.  Intake suggestions welcomed also.

Thanks,
Brian
Title: Re: 428cj cam&intake suggestions
Post by: ScotiaFE on August 20, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
4 speed or auto?
Rear gear?
As for milled heads and intake, unless the heads are real 67 GT heads (and I mean that sarcastically)
for mild pep most FE heads are not that bad. And the 427 Ed intake has that kool vintage look and makes decent power
on modest FE's.
A cam with about 230* at .050 will really wake it up, but with the peanut size tank the gas gauge moves as fast as the tach. ::) 
Title: Re: 428cj cam&intake suggestions
Post by: jayb on August 20, 2014, 12:50:17 PM
If you use the F427 intake, make sure that you port match it to the heads.  As cast those intakes come with really narrow port openings, and I have data showing a 20 HP and 20 lb-ft gain from port matching, on a 410 HP 428CJ.

Even better would be a new Performer RPM intake.

Lastly, if your customer can spend a little more on cam and valvetrain stuff, get him a nice hydraulic roller cam.  You can pick up another big chunk of power going that route.
Title: Re: 428cj cam&intake suggestions
Post by: 3pgnebs on August 20, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
Jay--I was thinking the same on going with the Performer RPM, the cam will need to be a flat tappet hyd.  Budget doesn't allow for a roller, having to purchase a new steering box to install while the motor is removed.  The heads are c8oe with the n.  Haven't gotten the engine out quite yet(damned rusted header bolts!!! anything besides anti-seize to put on the new bolts during the install?) so don't know the cc's on the chambers.  Car is a c6 with a 3.91 gear.  The cj heads will have to be reused, just wanting cam/intake suggestions.  I know there has to be something better than the current Melling grind in the motor, it's probably 20+ year technology.

Brian
Title: Re: 428cj cam&intake suggestions
Post by: ScotiaFE on August 20, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
Next question.
What converter?
A good 10 inch will make more of a change than all the cam you can think of.
You want the converter in the 2500 to 3000 rpm plus stall range.
Title: Re: 428cj cam&intake suggestions
Post by: 3pgnebs on August 20, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
From the little I drove the car, literaly 150Ft, it doesn't seem like it has much of a stall if any, and the paperwork with the car doesn't show one.  Only that it's a built c-6 with a manual valve body.  Will check the convertor for brand and size once the engine is removed.