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Title: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: fe66comet on July 23, 2014, 06:14:08 PM
OK if I have a carbureted CFM requirement of 1000 CFM, how does that translate to an injection throttle body size? My thinking is with a more dense charge with the lack of fuel and more efficient intake design that would affect total CFM requirements.also I would think velocity would play less of a factor than total volume alowing with bigger ports and throttle body more cfm in a given displacement? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: sumfoo1 on July 24, 2014, 06:39:03 AM
Usually it works out the same the difference is... smaller TBs have higher flow rates because they don't have the venturi choking them down.
IE a standard 4150 style 4 barrel throttle body can hit 1000cfm no problem where usually on a carb you're looking at a 4500 series.

A 4500 series throttle body can hit 2000cfm no problem


Basically CFM=CFM they are both rating total airflow.

But like you said on a carb motor you're affecting fuel flow too where on EFI a huge flow throttle body may lose a hand full of hp and some tq down low but  will give it back on the top end but you're not affecting fuel delivery so its not nearly as drastic.
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: My427stang on July 24, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
Within limits, you cannot over size a TB.  It merely becomes too sensitive to small throttle movements off idle.

I'd also argue that you can't really oversize a carb as much as people say, but there are limits to what you can manage for a signal at the booster, but with EFI, go big
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: jayb on July 25, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
+1 on that.  With some creative leverage you can minimize the issue of a touchy throttle also.
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: fe66comet on July 26, 2014, 01:19:23 AM
I am thinking I will tune my throttle body spacer to adjust CFM to keep velocity up. The Wilson I ordered is a single 90mm that flows 1170 cfm. The scummit (pun intended LOL) calculator calls for 980 CFM. I am not sure if 200 CFM carbureted is really going to be that much of a throttle issue on a stick car? I suppose also the air induction tube and filter could also be tuned to adjust but I haven't got that close yet. Thanks guys Jon
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: 67 Fastback on July 26, 2014, 06:33:38 AM
The progressive Tripower set up on my car works a treat 3 x 600 cfm throttle bodies . Has great throttle response and hang on when all 3 are open .
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: My427stang on July 26, 2014, 08:53:20 AM
I am thinking I will tune my throttle body spacer to adjust CFM to keep velocity up. The Wilson I ordered is a single 90mm that flows 1170 cfm. The scummit (pun intended LOL) calculator calls for 980 CFM. I am not sure if 200 CFM carbureted is really going to be that much of a throttle issue on a stick car? I suppose also the air induction tube and filter could also be tuned to adjust but I haven't got that close yet. Thanks guys Jon

Don't restrict anything, just make the smoothest, straightest, flow you can.  You aren't affecting velocity in the port with a restrictor plate, only in the restrictor plate.  Plus, FEs don't have a port velocity issue, not really even with TPs.   
Title: Re: throttle body vs carbureted CFM?
Post by: fe66comet on July 26, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
I guess I will go 3.5 inches and call that it, it is only .043 less than my TB so I can run a cylinder hone inside and clean it up.