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Title: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Royce on February 20, 2014, 01:34:59 AM
Or maybe tool up for production..  Does anyone know anything about this manifold?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb269/brechlrl/IMG_0782.jpg) (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/brechlrl/media/IMG_0782.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: rockittsled on February 20, 2014, 01:42:12 AM
OOOOHHHHHHHHHHH PPPRREEEEEEETTTTYY, SHINEY, I WANT!!!!! ;D

I bet it just might fit under the hood of Biggun
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: BH107 on February 20, 2014, 01:52:45 AM
Can Am 427 intake. They are even more impressive in person.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jayb on February 20, 2014, 08:20:03 AM
Borla (now owners of TWM) have contacted me about doing an intake just like that, using my intake adapter as a starting point.  We'll see what happens with that...
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: babybolt on February 20, 2014, 08:38:37 AM
I thought Dove had made some of those over the years.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jungle0758 on February 20, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
If tmc ever makes one for Jays adapter I want to be first on the list!
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Ford428CJ on February 20, 2014, 11:26:52 AM
I thought Dove had made some of those over the years.

  Yes Dove has made these over the years! For the Tunnel Ports. I talked with Jim about that 5 years ago and almost pulled the trigger on it... Very cool intake.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: fastback 427 on February 20, 2014, 11:45:03 AM
Very exotic intake. Am I mistaken or did ford lower the power on most can am pieces for longevity?
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: cammerfe on February 20, 2014, 12:38:41 PM
I thought Dove had made some of those over the years.

  Yes Dove has made these over the years! For the Tunnel Ports. I talked with Jim about that 5 years ago and almost pulled the trigger on it... Very cool intake.

I have a photo around here somewhere of one with the lower area made to mate with a Cammer. Jim has the ability to do such 'mix 'n' matches. I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that the HR fuel injection he made-up for the sprint car he was involved with may have been based on that same basic set of mold patterns. I seem to remember the car on the cover of his catalog some years ago.

KS
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: turbohunter on February 20, 2014, 01:48:45 PM
OOOOHHHHHHHHHHH PPPRREEEEEEETTTTYY, SHINEY, I WANT!!!!! ;D

That was my reaction exactly.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: turbohunter on February 20, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
Borla (now owners of TWM) have contacted me about doing an intake just like that, using my intake adapter as a starting point.  We'll see what happens with that...

I'll be in for that, and another adapter to support it. :)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Bad Byrd on February 20, 2014, 01:58:58 PM
Pretty cool..................looks very Old School with its bulk, I bet that thing is heavy! LOL

It is amazing when you see stuff like this and then you see a Kinsler Intake for an LS motor how things have just gotten better with technology!
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: turbohunter on February 20, 2014, 02:12:03 PM
looks very Old School with its bulk, I bet that thing is heavy! LOL
Agreed
Love to see what Jay could do with the design.
That would look pretty darn cool hanging out the hood of my '66 Mustang (or anybody's car for that matter). 8)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: cbolze on February 20, 2014, 10:37:01 PM
I'm placing my order for one in magnesium.  8)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: cjshaker on February 20, 2014, 10:44:23 PM
Borla (now owners of TWM) have contacted me about doing an intake just like that, using my intake adapter as a starting point.  We'll see what happens with that...

Is that Borla as in the muffler company?
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: TomP on February 21, 2014, 01:19:15 AM
There were Mickey Thompson intakes like that, Their 1966 catalog didn't show a pic of the FE one though. Magnesium or aluminum and for Webers or fuel injection.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jayb on February 21, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Borla (now owners of TWM) have contacted me about doing an intake just like that, using my intake adapter as a starting point.  We'll see what happens with that...

Is that Borla as in the muffler company?

Yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Bad Byrd on February 22, 2014, 12:18:25 AM
Geeez Jay it might very well be time to farming out some work, Doing the R&D on all these new intakes adapters.................Or buy a few more machines and hire some people and start cranking them out....................Sounds like you are a wanted man!
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Heo on February 22, 2014, 06:19:38 AM
Im no expert on flow but i think that must be
better than put the carb/throtlebody vertical
you get a straighter pat this way
A friend of me has built a intake like this
with Webers for a Cleveland Engine but its
not tested yet
Its built out of steel tubes with a piece of
rubber hose, so he can change the lenght
of the runners by using longer o shorter
hose.

Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Bad Byrd on February 22, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
Now this is smokin

(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr291/bdastrk/LS7XRam_Silver_CarbonWeb_zps467cc937.jpg) (http://s493.photobucket.com/user/bdastrk/media/LS7XRam_Silver_CarbonWeb_zps467cc937.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: cjshaker on February 22, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
Is that Borla as in the muffler company?

Yes, that is correct.
[/quote]

Interesting. I'm a big fan of Borla mufflers. I run the Ataks on my GT and just recently picked up a set of their Pro XS series for the Mach. Good sound quality with little to no drone, great construction with quality materials, great flow for performance....and made in the U.S.A. They seem like a top notch company.

Then I find this page on their websight showing 427 FEs with FI setups.
http://www.borlainduction.com/gallery/gallery_detail.aspx?gallery_cat_id=1&gallery_id=5

Nice to see they are supporting the FE. It would be interesting to see what ideas they might have for you. Staying tuned....
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jayb on February 22, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
I think what they are doing is building their fuel injection setups based off the Blue Thunder Weber intake.  So, if they now can use my intake adapter, they can do a crossram, kind of like the one that Royce posted pictures of.  That would be really cool...
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: cammerfe on February 22, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Is that Borla as in the muffler company?

Yes, that is correct.

Interesting. I'm a big fan of Borla mufflers. I run the Ataks on my GT and just recently picked up a set of their Pro XS series for the Mach. Good sound quality with little to no drone, great construction with quality materials, great flow for performance....and made in the U.S.A. They seem like a top notch company.

Then I find this page on their websight showing 427 FEs with FI setups.
http://www.borlainduction.com/gallery/gallery_detail.aspx?gallery_cat_id=1&gallery_id=5

Nice to see they are supporting the FE. It would be interesting to see what ideas they might have for you. Staying tuned....
[/quote]

That second picture in the Borla Gallery looks suspiciously as if it might be a Windsor. Maybe it's there because it's a 427!   :)

KS
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: 482supersnake on March 01, 2014, 02:24:38 PM
I think what they are doing is building their fuel injection setups based off the Blue Thunder Weber intake.  So, if they now can use my intake adapter, they can do a crossram, kind of like the one that Royce posted pictures of.  That would be really cool...

Which adapter are they going to use? Are they going to use the 351c port spacing or go with the strait ports of the 13002 manifold. I plan on doing a cross ram injection with my adapter, something like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-ITB-INDIVIDUAL-THROTTLE-BODY-Chevy-Corvette-LS1-LS2-LS6-SFD52-ITB-Kit-/181335310953?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a386d4269&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Heo on March 01, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
I think what they are doing is building their fuel injection setups based off the Blue Thunder Weber intake.  So, if they now can use my intake adapter, they can do a crossram, kind of like the one that Royce posted pictures of.  That would be really cool...

Which adapter are they going to use? Are they going to use the 351c port spacing or go with the strait ports of the 13002 manifold. I plan on doing a cross ram injection with my adapter, something like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-ITB-INDIVIDUAL-THROTTLE-BODY-Chevy-Corvette-LS1-LS2-LS6-SFD52-ITB-Kit-/181335310953?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a386d4269&vxp=mtr

Soo you to. I have planed something like that to. Going back and fort
if im going to do it crossram style or with vertical TB,s
I Think im going with vertical since i like that look better
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jayb on March 01, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
I think what they are doing is building their fuel injection setups based off the Blue Thunder Weber intake.  So, if they now can use my intake adapter, they can do a crossram, kind of like the one that Royce posted pictures of.  That would be really cool...

Which adapter are they going to use? Are they going to use the 351c port spacing or go with the strait ports of the 13002 manifold. I plan on doing a cross ram injection with my adapter, something like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-ITB-INDIVIDUAL-THROTTLE-BODY-Chevy-Corvette-LS1-LS2-LS6-SFD52-ITB-Kit-/181335310953?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a386d4269&vxp=mtr

They want to use the 13002 adapter.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jayb on March 06, 2014, 11:32:19 PM
Check this out:

(http://fepower.net/Photos/Posts/Borla Test Assembly 7.JPG)

More pictures and some details are at the end of the FE intake adapter thread...
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: cjshaker on March 07, 2014, 10:10:14 AM
Very reminiscent of the old CanAm FE and the Indy small blocks. I'll bet it would be popular with the '30s-'40s street rod crowd also. It would be a shame to cover that with a hood! The newer self-learning FI programs are making this stuff much more feasable for the average builder.

I'm kind of torn about the popularity of the FE being on the rise. I used to enjoy having the only 427 and/or performance FE around my area. You're not helping, Jay 8)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: turbohunter on March 07, 2014, 10:18:56 AM
You're not helping, Jay 8)

LOL
No good deed ;)
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: fe66comet on March 08, 2014, 12:25:12 PM
Looks like something on grampa's rod from the Munsters LOL.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Bad Byrd on March 08, 2014, 02:52:44 PM
You drawing that in Inventor or Solid works?
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: jayb on March 08, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
I didn't draw the intake setup, Borla did, but the adapter is drawn in Solidworks.
Title: Re: Jay, you need to add this baby to your manifold collection
Post by: Bad Byrd on March 09, 2014, 09:49:32 AM
That stuff is so Cool!