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FE Power Forums => Member Projects => Topic started by: falcon428 on October 15, 2013, 07:36:58 PM
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Well a 20 year old project that has been sitting 17+ years is now starting to head in the right direction. It's a project LONG past due, derailed by self employment, marriage, child and divorce. Now it is finally time to get back to work on this neglected project.
My plans for this '68 Falcon consist of having some updates done to the chassis and to be certified to 8.50's. FE powered of course, force fed with a ProCharger F2 w/EFI. Blair Patrick will be performing his magic on this engine build. Gear selection will be performed by a Lenco ST1200 5 speed.
I have started collect parts for this build and talking to a few people that are going to help me meet my goals. I also have a lot to learn as this build is far above any other builds. I have done in the past. Should be an exciting journey. I will post updates as the project progresses.
Here is a few of the parts I have gathered so far:
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That Lenco is awesome. Nothing like all those sticks coming up out of the floor...
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The lenco wasn't my first choice, but needed a manual tranny that will handle 1200 hp in a 3600+ lb. car and be street driven too. I really like the clutch less Liberty equalizer, but it can't be driven on the street. So I ended up going with the Lenco as it seemed to fit the bill well.
I would really like to rum Drag week one year, not that I would have a chance winning. Just would love to try it once.
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Check the rules on running a Lenco at Drag Week; unless they've changed, it automatically puts you in the Unlimited class,which kind of sucks. I really wanted to put a Lenco in my 69 Shelby clone with the SOHC, but I also wanted to run at Drag Week and have some chance of winning. I ended up with a <cough> ATI Powerglide <hack> so I could keep the car in the Modified class.
With the luck I've had over the last few years of Drag Week, I should've bought the Lenco ::)
It would be great to see your car there, no matter what the class, though; the FE is under-represented at Drag Week.
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Stopped by the chassis shop yesterday to see how things were going, and when he thought he would be ready for the Falcon. Still out about a month, he is working on a 66-67 Fairlane that has evolved into a bigger project than expected. It should be a cool ride when done. Roll cage, ladder bars, M2 front end, big ole meats on back and a 540+ BBF making it all go.
The Fairlane taking longer than originally planned has been a blessing in a way. It has given me time to round up parts for the build. You would think that a project that is in its 20th year would be well planned. :). Well my budget 20 years ago was a lot less than today. Plus after going to the FE reunion last spring it really lit the fire to get this thing back on the track. So things will be rolling on this build soon and I hope to have it at the 2015 3rd Annual FE reunion at Beaver Springs Dragway. It might only be making its first shakedown passes.
More to come as we go along.
Rodney
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Hello All,
Not much has happened with the car, still waiting on chassis shop and trying to round up some of these elusive FE parts. :).
I also did get time to make a trip south this weekend to meet with Blair Patrick. Spent some time discussing where we are headed with my engine build. It was a great pleasure to meet him and had a talk FE. We are both excited about this build, it's something a bit different. Should be a nice ProCharger build and proudly showing off our FE. I just wish I had as much FE knowledge as he has in his pinkie finger. :) I should have offered my skills as a certified floor sweep so that I could watch and learn. LOL!
It's been a long time since I have had a chance to build a car, and I'm very excited about this one. Hope to update you guys on more in near future.
Rodney
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Wow I can't believe is has been almost a year since I last posted on the car. Well I do have a few updates. Finally did get the car into the chassis shop. The old roll age wouldn't recertify so it has been cut out and we are starting over from scratch. Now it will be a 25.3 chassis. Chassis guy is ready to start on building it. We have been rounding up parts the last couple of months. Chromoly tubing showed up today as well as 4 link setup, the Moser fab 9 reared housing and few other parts needed.
Coolest piece though is the ProCharger F2 and the gear drive setup for my FE.
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Here is a few more pics. My photobucket locked up on me had to reboot.
Another of ProCharger and gear drive....
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Wow photobucket is being difficult tonight.
Since we are redoing the chassis I decided to go with a a large slick. So I decided on a 32.5"x 14.5"x 15. Here is what I went with as tire and wheel combo...
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More updates to come. Hopefully we will get a lot done on it thru the winter. I had hoped to have it ready by FE Race and Reunion 2015 but that isn't going to be possible. Might bring it as a project under construction?
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That should be one awesome ride when you're done! I gotta say, I love that Lenco also. That's what I'm looking at using in my next performance build for a street/strip car.
That drive for the ProCharger is pretty darn cool too. Is that something that ProCharger makes? Nice all-in-one deal with the bracketry. What's the left hand pulley for, power steering or a dry sump system?
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The gear drive is from the Supercharger Store. The left hand pulley is for fuel pump drive.
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Any pictures of how that blower and drive mates to the engine?
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Any pictures of how that blower and drive mates to the engine?
I was really curious about that as well. When you mock it up on the engine it would be great to see some pictures of it. I assume you can run a water pump off of this as well, or is it designed for strictly electric style pump?
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Any pictures of how that blower and drive mates to the engine?
I was really curious about that as well. When you mock it up on the engine it would be great to see some pictures of it. I assume you can run a water pump off of this as well, or is it designed for strictly electric style pump?
I will definetly post some pics once we get it mounted to the block.
I am not sure if stock water pump will work, curious to find out though. I am planning on running an electric one but I will see if a stock would work.
My block is at chassis shop right now. We have been waiting on the supercharger and mounts to finalize fitment into the chassis as it hangs off the face of the block 15.5" +/-
I started this project almost 20 years ago, so I will definetly keep everyone posted. I plan to post more on it as things happen. It's a build that will take some time. I'm not in a hurry, neither is my wallet. :). I work a ton of hours too so that slows the build down. But one day it will be done and should represent the FE world rather well. As long as I can learn to drive it. LOL
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First round of test fitting of the F2 and gear drive. Went well, need to make a few small changes but won't know exactly until I get the crank and balancer in.
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First round of test fitting of the F2 and gear drive. Went well, need to make a few small changes but won't know exactly until I get the crank and balancer in.
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Wow, that's cool
However it clearly won't work with my air conditioning :)
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First round of test fitting of the F2 and gear drive. Went well, need to make a few small changes but won't know exactly until I get the crank and balancer in.
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Wow, that's cool
However it clearly won't work with my air conditioning :)
Who needs air conditioning at 150+ mph? ;)
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Sorry about so many separate post. iOS 8 and photobucket are not playing together nicely.
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Off to a good start it looks like you are definitely on your way. I can appreciate the piece by piece build, I am definitely on the same program.
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New rear quarter lips welded on and working on ride height and tire fitment.
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Here are a few pics of progress on the Falcon. Starting to get some chassis mocked up and layed out.
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Here are a few more pics. Mocking up driveline fit. Figuring out crank centerline and driveline angle. Looks like we will have to move engine back just a little. Not much maybe an inch.
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More pick from the chassis shop. Getting a few more bars in. Coming along nicely.
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Looks great. That's quite the chassis jig they've got...
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So I'm guessing the 2015 FE Reunion is probably out of the equation right now? :)
Projects always take (at least) twice as long as expected. And cost (at least) twice as much >:(
Looking good though. That looks like a pretty serious chassis and should handle that 1200hp ok. Are you planning on carbs or injection?
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It's going to be EFI.
My goal is to get it to all fit under a stock hood. (Fingers crossed) :)
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Here are a few more pics. Getting closer everyday. It's coming along well. I am extremely pleased with how it's looking.
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Where is the radiator going to go?
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Where is the radiator going to go?
There will be two radiators. One each side of supercharger intake. Have also thought about putting radiator underneath in back of car. Leaning towards two up front though.
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Where is the radiator going to go?
There will be two radiators. One each side of supercharger intake. Have also thought about putting radiator underneath in back of car. Leaning towards two up front though.
Cool! I like the idea of the rads in back, simply to avoid visual obstruction of all those great engine parts in the bay. JMO!
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it looks like you have a chassis builder that actually gets things done that's gonna be a sweet car when its done. I bought a 64 falcon that I had option of buying the lenco that came with it also, all the hyme joints on the linkage were wore out and wow it was almost 2000.00 bucks to replace just those, they are only made by lenco for the lenco, I tried to find different hyme ends to no avail, that was about 5 years ago maybe you can get some now I don't know. I said no on that but they are cool, ill just keep running the rollerized c6 until I have some money burning a hole in my pocket. super nice car you have. :)
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Here are a few progress pics. We are getting more bars in at the rear of the car. Plus getting ready to mount the rear ARB.
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Just want to say you have a really nice car started here, very professional, and will enjoy watching it come together.........Al
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Well car has been coming along slowly. Chassis guy has been working on other jobs to get caught up. With me adding more for him to do and other speed bumps in life it is going to take longer than I originally planned on. His work has been top notch, so I am having him do even more. So I'm working the long hours so he can keep working on it. Lol. He had to get a few of his regular/repeat customers cars updated for 2016 race season.
Here are a few update pics though.
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Nice, really like how you placed the rear wheels in the opening, stance is going to look Super Baddd when you get it complete and on ground. Thanks for update...............Al
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Nice, really like how you placed the rear wheels in the opening, stance is going to look Super Baddd when you get it complete and on ground. Thanks for update...............Al
Thanks, stance and wheel tire combo make or break a car. It's taken a lot of work to get it to look like that.
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'40 Ford Tudor Sedan all original"......at lest something isn't getting cut up.Very nice progress on the car.
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Very cool build in many ways! I really enjoy watching this come together. Please keep updating this thread. I really like the chassis work, and the engine trans combo is the bomb, along with the F2 deal is sure interesting.
I think everyone wants to see this project completed and find out what kind of numbers this thing will produce on the track. I hope it comes together quickly at the end. I am sure you want to see that more than anybody!
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Any updates????