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FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Rory428 on January 18, 2024, 07:26:32 PM
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I was at a buddys engine machine/parts store the other day, and he found a few boxes of brand new BlackJack Ford headers , still in the box, that have been sitting in his attic for many years. Trying to help him figure out what the applications are for. One set has part number 3603, and are 289-302-351W flanges, the other has 3622, and my guess is 351C/M/400 , likely for a 2 wd PU truck, but not positive. He also has a new set of Hedman headers for a 75-78 302 Mustang 11, if anybody knows anybody looking. Thanks.
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Here's a couple for sale on eBay if he gets desperate.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314544652198
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126071331220?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D259357%26meid%3D0902e4ff80144934a91566f4296ddc6a%26pid%3D101875%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D314544652198%26itm%3D126071331220%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D4429486%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuWithLambda85KnnRecallV1V2V4ItemNrtInQueryAndCassiniVisualRankerAndBertRecallWithVMEV3CPCAutoWithCassiniEmbRecall&_trksid=p4429486.c101875.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A1260713312200902e4ff80144934a91566f4296ddc6a%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAABYHD%252FO%252BVoFoPPIoZ2g0kOZxWd85mWuIHekSp3qag7zFfwObZeQoitzE%252FDCfcejfO%252BzOLmzZmy11RrgWpA56KM9DpasK%252BGtGYwCFvgaK6ijP5AqShEUhT8f2oX6hvndJ3G0oWH8DD1DlBWseQltpxcSDW2Uu52NrseaxeINpsrDP6vx7ny%252BkPKauMa3yeSanWiipaG0%252FNyPEHFbZ9mJcXXduMmqyz5XVraBtMypdCP%252FH595sM4tTWqICwflp1bJbI3Dr4cwlo8e7QzPnzLVD2sX%252FFiOdnBSSSUXhGOSo3xowYrm7yQs1uinHU18L7wJMtxLq3DFAg4k%252Bdm4q7s1B%252BCFXdWgrs%252FCrUql3NCOGzpuP59SgNPqE6zAEb4v0mvAQOQ7A9xz%252FFwncSpcfc55PuyUHWJEX%252FMM3%252Boh5Te7D2DSfq4hvJZNNAPavpCPXj5tOwdzsOp2YSEPkEjD3Ts6PRY4SE%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A4429486
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I thought i did but can only find one for Cyclone headers. If it's like them the only smallblock Ford headers are a fits-all for Maverick/Mustang/Falcon/Fairlane.70's Torino and a 79-up (63 catalog Fox body and a Mustang II version Just the 3. There are several numbers for 351M trucks different 4x4 vs two wheel drive, different 79 and earlier than 80-up.
I would imagine Blackjack had similar.
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Here you go Rory, from my 1989 Blackjack catalog
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLc7qj2Z/20240126-173206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mvj1kjqx)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CxdNHRyc/20240126-173131.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zRD92yS)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1K79sTT/20240126-173015.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dh2d3Phx)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvKBkRnD/20240126-172955.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/069SJWm2)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pVYq2NYJ/20240126-173810.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14XpHjd8)
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It pretty much like Cyclone listings. Those fits-all 302, "64-77 Ranchero"... that is several distinct chassis styles there. Hardly any headers fit a 65 and earlier Falcon unless they are specifically designed for them. 65 Mustang headers won't.
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Tommy---
I once bought, from a fellow FoMoCo engineer, a 1960 Falcon that he had driven in to work at EEE one weekend. Over that weekend, he had swapped the entire powertrain sourced from a 1966 GT 350. Both the engine and the trans were, externally, stock 'K' Mustang components. The engine had the tri-Y headers that came on the earliest GT 350s and they fit much easier into the Falcon chassis that the Gratiot four tube items I put on my '65 1/2 Mustang GT.
(The inside of both the engine and C4 trans were a different story. Virtually every part internally had a splash of blue lay-out dye with some ariation of an 'XE' number scratched into the blue.)
The Tri-Y headers went on and off from the top without disturbing the engine mounts. They may have monkeyed with the Falcon unit body, but if they did it wasn't at all obvious.
Since the car looked stock from the outside, it was a very fun 'sleeper'.
KS
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Tommy---
I once bought, from a fellow FoMoCo engineer, a 1960 Falcon that he had driven in to work at EEE one weekend. Over that weekend, he had swapped the entire powertrain sourced from a 1966 GT 350. Both the engine and the trans were, externally, stock 'K' Mustang components. The engine had the tri-Y headers that came on the earliest GT 350s and they fit much easier into the Falcon chassis that the Gratiot four tube items I put on my '65 1/2 Mustang GT.
(The inside of both the engine and C4 trans were a different story. Virtually every part internally had a splash of blue lay-out dye with some ariation of an 'XE' number scratched into the blue.)
The Tri-Y headers went on and off from the top without disturbing the engine mounts. They may have monkeyed with the Falcon unit body, but if they did it wasn't at all obvious.
Since the car looked stock from the outside, it was a very fun 'sleeper'.
KS
I knew a guy, who was a sheriff's deputy that bought a wrecked 66 GT 350 and put the power train in to a 65 Falcon 2 door wagon. The GT 350 may have been repairable, but in 1972ish it was just a wrecked Mustang. He told me the swap was one of the easiest he ever did. Down to the interments, door sill plates and 9 inch rear. He had some great stories about the local teenagers street racing him. Later, when on duty he would stop them and warn them about the dangers of such racing activity's. Later he pulled the K code Shelby engine out of the wagon and the car. He then put the engine in to his wife's 68 Cougar. She still has the engine, but in a 67 Cougar.
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Here you go Rory, from my 1989 Blackjack catalog
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLc7qj2Z/20240126-173206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mvj1kjqx)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CxdNHRyc/20240126-173131.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zRD92yS)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1K79sTT/20240126-173015.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dh2d3Phx)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvKBkRnD/20240126-172955.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/069SJWm2)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pVYq2NYJ/20240126-173810.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14XpHjd8)
Thanks, Kevin, that is exactly what I was looking for. Any chance you could show the footnote codes? Thanks.
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Sure, let me know if this works for you
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1f8Kjh9/20240127-132235.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdNvWmKk)
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That`s great, Kevin, Thanks.