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FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: 482supersnake on November 03, 2023, 09:49:35 PM
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https://youtu.be/Sjf3rUZozrM?si=6_WWxSOB2DXjzSFA
I've been following this build for awhile and honestly didn't think that these guys would be successful but they got it running and I'm glad that I wasn't right.
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I remember Ford making one several years ago, but cool all the same....
https://www.motortrend.com/news/prototype-v10-ford-mustang/
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We also did a pair of two-valve turbocharged V-12's when I was at Ford in the early 90's. One went into the GT-90 show car, and the other went into a tire-melting Lincoln Town Car (!!)
The engines each used a pair of T-Bird Super Coupe ECU's. The blocks and heads were welded-up 4.6L V8 pieces, done by famous Detroit welder Chris Razor. The cranks, cams, intakes, and exhaust (headers) were custom, and everything else was pretty much stock Modular. Our chief engineer got the project through Corporate by calling it a "Welding Feasibility Study" ;D ;D
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Back several decades ago we looked into trying to create a good powerful example of a V10 for a "Modular" racing class, but the crankshaft along with the camshafts pretty much killed the idea. :(
The O.E.M. V10 crankshaft presents excessive stroke length and with the 'split-pin' journals just isn't inspiring from a strength standpoint, so a custom billet was researched but with resultant costs that only Ford Motor Company would finance. The same proved to be the case for the camshafts that were also going to have to be one-off billets of significant costing; and if you wanted to "play" with different grinds, well one had better figure out "ideal" pretty quickly. :o
Just as Ford had established (information we where not privy to), we decided the tall deck V10 block wasn't the way to go, but with that I figured I would need two maybe three Cobra aluminum blocks and a minimum of four and maybe six cylinder heads, sectioned and welded back together as one in order to create just the basic core block and two head castings. And if one really looks into this, in detail, it's going to be quite the job. But the next problem was that unlike Ford, we would be starting with already finished to dimension componentry, this not being ideal if one expects anything to be to original dimension when the project was completed considering the processes involved in getting there. :-\
I still fancy the idea of this, but one still needs to consider the effects of the "odd-fire" scenario and loss of the counter-balance shaft found in the production V10's, and that in reality the V10 is truly poor a design and solely a concession for fitment.
So then why not, while one's at it, not make it a V12! Not sure what you'd try to bolt it into; but still it could prove interesting to say the least. :)
Scott.
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Although it may not be an ideal platform for a racing engine, or a real high performance engine, I must take exception that the Ford 6.8L V10 is a "poor design". My 99 F350 Dually has a bone stock 2 valve V10, with a 5 speed manual transmission, and I have nothing bad to say about the V10. It has been used almost exclusively , since new, for towing an enclosed race car trailer, which it does very well. In it`s 25 years of service, it has never had a valve cover off, doesn`t leak a drop of oil, or burn any oil between oil changes. And it is an incredibly smooth engine. It is no fuel economy champion, but I really doubt anybody would think that a 7000 pound truck, towing a 10,000 big box of a trailer, with a 10 cylinder engine, would be a gas mizer.
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My statement was not intended as a slight on Ford's execution, as I also feel that they have proven to be a very good product; but rather what I was attempting to state was that the basic format of a V10 R.I.C.E. is not of the best engineering when compared to some others. :)
Scott.