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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: fryedaddy on October 26, 2023, 12:02:51 PM
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my 428 has a stock oil pan with a windage tray from mid 1980s.im getting ready to pull the pan and replace it.question is,should i leave the tray off or use it on the new pan?probably using a stock new pan
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I've got a windage tray in my 410 engine but I don't drag race it anymore. I got one in my 390 and don't drag race it. I really don't think I need them. If you drag race I'd think about leaving it in.
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My 2 cents. Unless you have another motor you want to use it in or are possibly concerned about sealing up the oil pan with the tray included, better to have it installed than sitting around collecting dust and rust.
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Use it since you have it
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what about the valley tin,with aftermarket heads and intake would you still use the valley tin?
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Hard to say w/o seeing the heads and intake being used. May or may not fit. If you have threaded the 6 holes by the center oil passage and are using plugs and nipples to route oil to the front and rear of the engine for return to the oil pan, probably not much need for it if any.
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I will not be using the valley tin on my 428 build.
Not necessary and interferes with the roller lifters.
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No reason to not use the valley tin if it fits. Minimizes hot oil splash on the bottom of the intake manifold. Like others have said, the tin usually interferes with roller lifters, and all four of my FE powered cars have roller lifters, so can't use it on mine, but I would if it fit. Henry used them for a reason.
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There are always instances where something can't be used and the end results are still exactly the same. On a Victor intake, you can't use the rocker tins, but somehow everything still magically works. On roller lifter engines, valley tins can't be used, but still everything somehow works just as well. Ford quit using oil slingers in the late 70's and if we leave them out today, everything somehow works just as good.
If you have them and are compelled to use them, that's fine. But if you leave them out, everything will still work just as good. I promise.
To this day, I haven't used one single valley tin, rocker tin, or oil slinger in any engine I've built. You won't find any of the old factory tins in my shop anywhere.
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We will use valley trays on flat tappet stuff if we remember to put it in. By the time you clearance one for roller lifters it ends up looking like a lace curtain - not worth the effort.
Rocker trays get installed if they fit. Since they won't fit on many aftermarket roller rocker systems - they also get left out most often.
I install windage trays fairly often. The add exactly nothing on the dyno, but everybody uses them - so they must do something ???. Probably helps with oil spray control hitting the sump.
I might have installed three slingers in 20 years...