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Title: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: blykins on November 30, 2022, 07:37:18 AM
I'm wondering how hard it is to seal up the breather holes without welding or damaging the chrome.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: machoneman on November 30, 2022, 08:38:26 AM
Nope. But Brent I can say I've never seen a OEM tin valve cover used with a vacuum pump or dry sump. I think that any stamped steel cover would be less effective than a cast (pot metal) due to overall rigidity and better sealing at the cover/head side.

That said, spot welding from the inside with a closely fitting plate to totally seal the opening may minimize damage to the chrome but even that is iffy.  Would still have that ugly hole. Suggest finding a rubber/plastic plug (Dorman?) to fill the hole instead.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: Stangman on November 30, 2022, 10:02:29 AM
The rubber plug is a good idea. Is it a round hole or a twist cap? You can also silicone gasket to cover and then silicone cover and gasket assembly to block. Should seal. Just a little tougher than using the cast covers.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: blykins on November 30, 2022, 10:18:45 AM
They will be twist caps.  That makes it hard because the hole isn't exactly a hole, it's a keyed hole.....harder to cover and seal. 

This is on my Tunnel Port and I'm trying to keep it looking period correct.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: mike7570 on November 30, 2022, 11:17:06 AM
eBay has some chrome pentroof valve covers with no holes.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: blykins on November 30, 2022, 12:36:28 PM
Never been a big fan of the pentroofs, but it's an option.  Another option is a pair of M/T covers with no holes, but they're getting harder and harder to find in good condition.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: MeanGene on November 30, 2022, 04:10:34 PM
Pentroofs are definitely period correct for a Tunnel Port setup
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: Stangman on November 30, 2022, 07:28:24 PM
I have a soft spot for the baldies and they dont have any holes. Not period correct like meangene says but you cant deny the cool look.
just gives it that stock look.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: JacksFordParts on November 30, 2022, 10:05:00 PM
Never been a big fan of the pentroofs, but it's an option.  Another option is a pair of M/T covers with no holes, but they're getting harder and harder to find in good condition.

I have a few sets of M/T no hole covers Brent if you decide to go that route.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: rockhouse66 on December 01, 2022, 08:04:45 AM
Brent


Why not use a twist on cap with ears, like this one?


https://www.amazon.com/Trans-Dapt-4804-Chrome-Twist-Oil/dp/B000CQ20Y6/ref=pd_lpo_2?pd_rd_w=TyIHb&content-id=amzn1.sym.116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_p=116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_r=R0XZ0ZPCMNBCR23BY21C&pd_rd_wg=BXPV8&pd_rd_r=e13005ca-bb3a-4757-94ff-58125322f586&pd_rd_i=B000CQ20Y6&psc=1



Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: blykins on December 01, 2022, 09:17:30 AM
Jim, that's certainly an option, as long as the gasket/seal is tight.  It doesn't take much to compromise the seal, sometimes I have to silicone around intake bolts, etc. 

There are some pictures floating around of a bunch of Tunnel Port crate engines at Holman Moody's shop and all of them have chrome PBF valve covers with the big cookie cutter oil caps.  So, I think I'll try one of the cookie cutter caps or a cap like you specified first and see where that puts me.  If it doesn't work, I'll probably hit Tindle up for some MT covers.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: FERoadster on December 02, 2022, 12:22:10 PM
Brent: If Jack Tindel does not come up with a set, checked and I've got 3 sets here with the knockouts still intact.
Richard >>> FERoadster
Title: Re: Anyone ever used PBF valve covers with a vacuum pump/dry sump?
Post by: Falcon67 on December 07, 2022, 12:00:46 PM
I really wish I could buy either Ford Racing or even ProForm cask aluminum covers without the oil holes. I tried to get a seal using a vacuum pump and keyed hole covers and I never felt I got it done.  I was about to try some standoffs that required drilling around the holes when I found some NOS late 60s 351C covers that were undrilled.

I used this for the cover with a more precise drilled round hole: https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52230/10002/-1
Similar - https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=SUM-440332

https://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResultsPageCmd?q=681-MBR0011-10AN&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1

You might could use something similar with a machined washer under & over the cover to provide a basis to seal.  Not really old school.
Another option I considered: https://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResultsPageCmd?q=497-1131&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1