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turbohunter

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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #90 on: June 29, 2015, 12:39:00 PM »
Already in the plans.
What a weenie little sway bar that is. :o
As far as the shock mounts I planned on making a flat set with a little kick out for attaching a cowl brace to.
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2015, 07:01:30 PM »
Marc,
Less negative camber using the Shelby drop in "full droop" condition at launch could be better for control; I don't know.  However, you could easily measure the difference by checking camber with the upper arm in the stock location and in the Shelby drop position while you're putting the front end back together.

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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2015, 07:31:18 PM »
Thanks again Bruce
I plan on playing with it a bit.
With those nice bearings it'll be easy.
Marc
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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #93 on: July 12, 2015, 06:18:19 PM »
Talked to John who owns Opentracker about what to look for and some tips for preparing the control arms for their bearing install.
He was very helpful.
We also talked about the one inch drop as it pertains to drag racing.
He pretty much said what I was thinking about it.
No the car doesn't turn corners, but, if your car pulls the wheels off, you are in full droop. When you touch back down you are scrubbing a bit (which equals slower time). Ok maybe not much but still not optimum.
He also talked about the rear end being out of shape on launch and not having optimum control with the front end on an out of shape touch down. Again, arguable.
Upshot is I'm doing it and being the ginny pig for all. :o
I figure as long as I'm doing it all, I may as well make it as perfect as possible. At least I won't have any what if's.

So today I got to preparing the arms for their bearing install.
For the uppers.
Tacked a 1/4x 1 1/4" fender washer in the existing bushing holes in order to use it as a guide for the hole saw.
Took the bit out of the saw and replaced with a 1/4" dowel to extend through the holes in the washers.
Came out bitchin. Now to find someone that can TIG weld.








The lowers are a real pain.
Their are two sizes of holes for the bushing in the lowers.
Opentracker makes the smaller size.
If you have the larger size (as I do) (and I assume Fairlanes do) then you have to take the bushing apart and use the outside cover of the bushing to fill the hole. Pain in the butt, but doable.



Marc
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'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2015, 08:08:51 PM »
Started actual engine prep today.
Grinding flashing and doing oil mods, then will drop off when crank (1U) is almost done.
Having it offset ground to a 4 inch stroke, balanced and nitrided.
Stopped by BBM and picked up a set of heads and dropped them off to begin work on them also.
Shooting for a 600hp deal and spin it to 6500-6800.
While at BBM saw one of the Colvert, Kuntz prepared heads. Holy cow they are nice.
Marc
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'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #95 on: July 13, 2015, 09:20:40 PM »
So what will you be shooting for, 416" or more?
Jared



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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #96 on: July 13, 2015, 10:14:01 PM »
4.0x 4.180 so 440 ish
Marc
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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #97 on: July 13, 2015, 10:19:55 PM »
Ok, couldn't remember what the bore was going to end up. Should motivate the car fairly well when it's done. :D
Jared



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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #98 on: July 13, 2015, 10:24:24 PM »
Yeah should go well.
I'm trying to be a little conservative and make the engine live but you know how that goes when you get into it.
Marc
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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #99 on: July 15, 2015, 05:55:03 PM »
Here are the control arms welded.
Have just a little clean up to do inside to slide the bearings in easily.
Got busy plug welding the firewall today. Sweet Sofia that is a pain in the ars.
I'm really getting tired of welding and grinding sheet metal on this thing.
Got a little over amped with the grinder and had to re do one of the plugs. >:(
It's ok though, all the better when it's done.









Marc
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'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2015, 06:44:01 PM »
Hey Marc, I'm a little cornfused with the lower arms. I understand you had to re-use the outer shell of the old bushings to allow the new bearing sleeve o.d. to fit well into it. However, it appears the bearing sleeve is only tack welded in a couple of spots in the center. Is that correct? I am thinking if that were the case, you would need to weld around the outsides of the old bushing sleeves where the bearing sleeve meets it. I see a weld on each side, but it appears it only holds the old bushing sleeve in and there is a parting line from that weld to the o.d. of the bearing sleeve(like pic #1 seems to show clearly). If that bearing sleeve needs to stay stationary (and I assume it does), then I can't really see how the couple tack welds will hold them securely.
Jared



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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2015, 07:50:27 PM »
Sharp eyes.
What we ended up doing was making a new outside sleeve instead of using the bushing outer.
That gave us better metal to weld to and any adjustment we needed.
The fit to the bearing housing is a press fit along with three rosette welds, not tacks. So a 3/8 hole is drilled in the outer casing to weld to the bearing "race". It's press fit, welded then the outside casing is perimeter welded to the arm.
That baby ain't going anywhere.
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2015, 08:09:03 PM »
A little less cornfused now. ;D What I should have said was plug weld instead of tack, poor wording on my part. Well, I think they look good Marc, nice job on those. I wasn't sure looking at the lowers, if you super cleaned the old bushing shells and cut the flange off or what, but that makes sense. Nice progress, keep it up! :D
Jared



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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2015, 08:12:04 PM »
"Less confused", I'll help if I can.
Ask anything.
Marc
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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2015, 08:15:14 PM »
"Less confused", I'll help if I can.

Yeah, just playing with wording on that, lol. Thanks for the updates on the car, looking forward to seeing it finished up.
Jared



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