351C intake adapter questions

[gregaba]

Hi
New here but have been watching the site for a few months.
63 Galaxie 428 C6 forged internals aluminum heads.This is a street driven car will take a few trips a year going to the strip but not a all out race car.
Before I order I have a couple of questions on the 351 adapter.-
1-It looks like on the pictures of intake install  the front of the intakes are cut out. Is this to show the access plate or for cooling?
 I will be running a Sniper EFI unit and wanted to use my Wieland Stealth duel plane intake and was wondering if the bottom of the intake is going to interfere with the access plate on the adapter. I don't mind port matching because the intake is a 2V intake.
I suspect my cam is a little big for what I want to use my car for and will be changing it out in the future
I received the front quick change timing cover and it was very good quality so I am not worried about the quality of the adapter.
I will buy a new intake if I have to but I want a single 4 BBL. and the Edlebrock2863  recommended in the advertisement on FE Powers page shows it is for a 351 w on Jegs website. Is there a good 4v intake duel plane that could be used?
Thanks
Greg

[turbohunter]

1-It looks like on the pictures of intake install  the front of the intakes are cut out. Is this to show the access plate or for cooling?

Thanks
Greg

Hi Greg
Welcome to the forum.
Here’s a pic of my dual plane installed on Jays mule for some flogging. I’ve since cleaned it up even more.
I think the answer to your question is yes and yes, added to the fact that it just looks better and you can run wiring through there easily with the bottom cut out. Not to mention distributor clearance.

[gregaba]

Thanks Turbohunter
Answered my question. Just wanted to be sure I was making a good decision.
Greg

[jayb]

Greg, the front of the 351C intakes have to be cut away primarily in order to clear the water jacket passage in the intake adapter.  Not a whole lot has to be cut off in order to do that, but if you cut away most of the bottom of the intake it exposes the machined valley cover plate, which looks better than just leaving most of the cast intake in place.  This is especially true when running a tunnel ram; they look really good with the center cut out.

The Edelbrock 2863 is not an intake for a 351 Windsor, it is for a Yates style Cleveland intake.  It will not fit the standard 13001 intake adapter, you have to use the 13006 adapter and also cut about 0.350" off the flange of the 2863 intake to make it work.  The 2863 intake is capable of a lot of power but is best reserved for a rather high horsepower application.  The Performer RPM that Marc shows in his post sounds like it would be a better fit in your application.  I have not tried a Weiand Stealth intake on the intake adapters, but if it has an exhaust crossover passage underneath the manifold, like a Holley Strip Dominator does, then that may have to be milled off on the bottom in order to bolt on to the intake adapter.  Wouldn't be a big deal to do that, especially since you have to cut the 351 manifold to fit the intake adapter anyway.

Glad you like the timing cover - Jay

[turbohunter]

Just to pile on with Jays recommendation of the Ed RPM. In the testing we did and in subsequent pulls I have done on my engine the RPM gives gobs of torque down low which will help your Galaxie get down the road. It begins to fall off at high (ish) rpm but who drives a street car at high rpm all day?

[gregaba]

Hi
I want to thank you all for the answers. The web site doesn't explain everything you need to know.
I really appreciate the info on the intake. I don't mind working the intake over as I have a hammer and chisel lol]. 
I have been racing since the 60's and all my cars tear up my back after a few hundred miles. That is why I bought the Galaxie. I had the 428 sitting in my shop for the last 25 years and decided to do something with it. My ideal was to build a cruiser with all the power options air,power steering, disc w/hydro boost and a good AM radio. I wanted a car I could get in and drive a thousand miles and still walk when I get there.
My problem is resisting my background. First I had to talk myself out of a stroker kit and blower. It goes on and on with a old racer.
I look at the duel 4 BBl. and think that really looks great but then I can only get 91 octane gas close by  and I would like to get at least 10 MPG. I have to make a 75 mile round trip for 93 and I don't want to have to do this with the Galaxie.
Jegs web site says the 2863 is for a 351 windsor and I am not surprised because they have been wrong before on some parts I have had to send back.
The stealth does not have the heat crossover, if I am not happy with it I will order the Edelbrock and see how it goes.
I will order the adapter on the first. I want to sell my 427 MR aluminum intake first to help pay for it.
Greg
2013 Boss 302
1971 Ranchero 429 CJ
1968 Shelby GT 500KR I bought new while in Nam
2 1962 Corvettes

 

[jayb]

Wow, you have a 71 429CJ Ranchero?  I had one of those back in the 80s, should've never sold it but it was a rusted out Minnesota car, so down the road it went.  Mine had the factory oil cooler package and also the shaker hood scoop, console interior, C6 and 391 traction loc.  Post some pictures of yours if you get a chance, I'd love to see it...

[gregaba]

Hi
Here are some pictures I took last year when I started on it.
 My dad bought this new and we rebuild it in 1978 did everything, stripped it to a bare body etc. Body parts were not available back so we just worked around the rust as it wasn't to bad back then but now was time to do proper repairs.
Last time we made some minor mods on it because it was just a car with little value back then so it no longer has all the stock badges and other things you would notice if you saw it on the street.
He ordered it with hidden headlights,shaker, buckets w/o console and a AM radio. He ordered it with a C-6 and a 330 something rear gear. He worked at the Ford dealership so I don't know if this was a special order car or the options he ordered were available.
Things I have done on this build are
1-Weld in all new floors and home built cowls.
2-Converted the vacuum headlights to electric.
3-Added Aldan coil over's and Global west tubular a arms.
4-Converted to Hydro boost 4 wheel disc
5-Changed rear end pumpkin to Roush-Yates Daytona Detriot locker 3.25 ratio with Strange 35 spline axles..
6_Added Calvert traction bars and mono leafs to rear.
7- Added home built frame rail connectors.
8- Built a 429 dynoed 536HP corrected at the flywheel.
9-I am adding a Holly EFI but have a carb on it now because Holly says to start a new engine with a carb. Have no ideal why.
10-Nobody makes a replacement fuel tank for the Ranchero so I converted a new 73-Ford F-150 to F350 rear tank with a in tank fuel pump.
Many more mods to to many to list.
Should make a nice street car.
Hope to have it on the street by may so I can start on the Galaxie.
I will enclose photos of my next project after I finish the Galaxie since you like the Torino style.
Greg

[gregaba]

Don't know why but the Ranchero pictures didn't come though.Will try again.
Looks like it will only let my attach one at a time.
So here is one. Will ad others later if interested.
Greg