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Title: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: jgkurz on September 15, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
I think this was the 8.88 run. That thing is planting HARD! Sure looks like those slicks might be hitting the wheel well but maybe not.

Picture credit to Hot Rod website.

(http://image.hotrod.com/f/144558674+w660+h495+q80+re0+cr1/128-day-two-race-action-from-indy-lpr.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjetmech on September 15, 2015, 06:01:34 PM
Nice pic!!! Anyone know how he made out today after the run? HotRod said he was having crank trigger problems.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Nightmist66 on September 15, 2015, 06:10:57 PM
That looks AWESOME!!

Still on footbrake?
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: KMcCullah on September 15, 2015, 06:27:53 PM
Foot brake at Indy??? Not on that launch....I'd be driving it like it was rented AND stolen!   8)
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 15, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Yeah, that's my new desktop pic. :)
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Cyclone03 on September 15, 2015, 08:12:06 PM
Somebody who knows 4 links look at this picture and help Jay dial the rear set up in. Has to be some time tuning that roll out of it. 
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 15, 2015, 08:21:43 PM
Remember he only has 3 runs on that set up.
I'm sure if he gets his other problems licked he'll be able to dial it in a bit more. :)
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjetmech on September 15, 2015, 08:24:53 PM
If I was leading the class I'd be afraid to mess with it. I wouldn't want to put it on the bumper since it has no wheelie bars. But your right theres more left in the car. I'd say its a pretty incredible machine with only 2 passes on it and running this good.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjshaker on September 15, 2015, 08:52:38 PM
Jays run today.

https://youtu.be/e0Jiuw3Dx98?t=1h16m1s
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: jgkurz on September 15, 2015, 09:01:45 PM
Jays run today.

https://youtu.be/e0Jiuw3Dx98?t=1h16m1s

 Just watched the video. I like Freiberger but I hope he eats his words at the end of the week.  Great run by Jay.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Nightmist66 on September 15, 2015, 09:06:04 PM
Typical Mopar guy  :P
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 15, 2015, 09:10:26 PM
That launch looks pretty darn good in real speed (not stop action).
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: XR7 on September 15, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
I'm no suspension expert, especially with a 4 link, (I'm still a leaf spring guy) but I would imagine an anti-roll bar would help... and/or staggered shock settings if no bar, like more compression on the passenger side and more extension on the driver side would help.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: WConley on September 15, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
If I was leading the class I'd be afraid to mess with it. I wouldn't want to put it on the bumper since it has no wheelie bars. But your right theres more left in the car. I'd say its a pretty incredible machine with only 2 passes on it and running this good.

I'm with Cjetmech on this one.  The racing gods have sprinkled some magic dust on that car for it to launching so well right out of the box.  Jay's too smart to mess with a good thing right now.  There are probably a few 4-link setting combinations that would work better, but literally dozens of others that would be a lot worse!

I bet Jay has that crank trigger wiring wrung out by now.  Even if he has to solder in a length of extension cord through the passenger window, that car should be running tomorrow.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 15, 2015, 09:25:48 PM
Agree
Remember last year and all the thought and geometry that went into the setting it was left at after/during the rod busting?
That's were it is now with only 3 runs on it and it's flying.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Qikbbstang on September 15, 2015, 09:29:52 PM
   Sorry I'm no pro racer, I sure as hell did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night.  But I did watch Jay lay down a 8.88 @ 149.02 today and 8.91 @149 yesterday . That absolutely magnificent SHELBY with what must be the biggest SOHC ever built, bounced on the rev limiter and ran straight down the track like she was on rails. One Pass Each Day.
CJ SHAKER: Great job catching the mark on the video---!
....what's better then Jay flipping a  giant bird at the tower as he drove by with the radio on!
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 15, 2015, 09:38:10 PM
LOL
I think we all pretty much agree BB.
Just a bunch of guys starving for information and over analyzing a still photo. :)
Just bench racing. Which is all we can do right now 'cause we're not out there.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: ec164 on September 15, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
I'm with XR7, first thing I thought was anti-roll set-up, also looking close the tires are wadded up pretty good maybe a touch more air too. But Jay has experience and knows what to do, I like the one pass done right and pack up for tomorrow. Also the Miller Cougar is strong and Alan Cassida is running well too!!............Al
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: WConley on September 15, 2015, 10:04:52 PM
A FordFE.com member who was there just posted that Jay got the crank trigger sorted out and all is well.  He was in good spirits as he loaded up for the next leg.

BOOOYAH!
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Qikbbstang on September 15, 2015, 10:24:04 PM
Jay stated something about two racing licenses he owns and the IHRA one will allow him to turn the wick-up Sat at the Hot Rod event where as the NHRA would not hmmmm
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjshaker on September 15, 2015, 10:32:26 PM
Yes, Alan's car is running well also. Unfortunately I didn't find Scott Miller's run in his Cougar. Alan's run is early and can be seen here

https://youtu.be/e0Jiuw3Dx98?t=12m21s
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjshaker on September 15, 2015, 11:17:21 PM
Kevin's run, also looking good but he's got stiff competition running right on the index.

https://youtu.be/e0Jiuw3Dx98?t=2h2m20s
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjshaker on September 15, 2015, 11:40:10 PM
Scott's run. Looking real good and having clean runs. Bummer about Jack's car, seems it blew oil out of the valve cover and it got sucked into one of the blowers and detonated a piston. It would have been cool to see a father/son FE team go the distance.

https://youtu.be/e0Jiuw3Dx98?t=2h47m42s
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: thatdarncat on September 16, 2015, 12:06:40 AM
Jay had an eventful day today, and it's going to make great reading when he makes his blog post. But he may be too tired tonight to write it up until later. At this point it does look like he will be at the track tomorrow.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: jgkurz on September 16, 2015, 10:11:03 AM
Someone please remind me. What transmission is Jay running in his GT500?
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: thatdarncat on September 16, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
Sadly it's a Power-Slide  :'(
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: XR7 on September 16, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
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Just a bunch of guys starving for information and over analyzing a still photo. :)

If that was directed at me... I was just trying to help, not bash in any way. I realize it isn't in the cards for a anti roll bar at this point, but the shock adjustments could help, and can be done quick and easy. I figured Jay would read that and perhaps keep it in mind, and maybe try it at some point, just a click or two depending on what shocks he has ( I would assume double adjustable).

Someone else mentioned more air pressure in the slicks. That will help as long as it will still hook, the car will definitely MPH higher with more air pressure.

I agree that the car is working pretty good and laying down numbers, don't fix it if it isn't broke... but baby steps man, small adjustments, test and tune. There is always more in it.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: blueoval67 on September 16, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
Before reading about the Watts linkage coming loose in Jay's day 2 update I would have said that the car needs to be scaled to check the corner weights. That's critical with any drag car particularly the 4 link cars. The Watts linkage moving will certainly change suspension movement and cause that kind of launch though.

Curious to see how it does today with the suspension tightened up. Go Jay Go!! I'm living vicariously through you!!
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: 900HP on September 16, 2015, 12:15:31 PM
Jay just gave a GREAT interview on the live feed
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 16, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
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Just a bunch of guys starving for information and over analyzing a still photo. :)

If that was directed at me... I was just trying to help, not bash in any way. I realize it isn't in the cards for a anti roll bar at this point, but the shock adjustments could help, and can be done quick and easy. I figured Jay would read that and perhaps keep it in mind, and maybe try it at some point, just a click or two depending on what shocks he has ( I would assume double adjustable).

Someone else mentioned more air pressure in the slicks. That will help as long as it will still hook, the car will definitely MPH higher with more air pressure.

I agree that the car is working pretty good and laying down numbers, don't fix it if it isn't broke... but baby steps man, small adjustments, test and tune. There is always more in it.
Not directed at you at all. I was using the over analyzing line in jest.
In fact I was adding myself into the mix in the hopes of not offending anyone.
Just a bunch of guys talking racing.
No worries :)
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 16, 2015, 12:37:32 PM
Caught Jays interview.
Frieburger acknowledged giving Jay grief and was cool.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: turbohunter on September 16, 2015, 12:43:36 PM
Jay just ran 9.11
Lots of tire spin off the line.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Joe-JDC on September 16, 2015, 04:15:31 PM
Finally went 8.94 @ 150.00 for all 8's so far in drag week.  Joe-JDC
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: MRadke on September 16, 2015, 04:50:13 PM
What did the Nova that is chasing him run?
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Cyclone03 on September 16, 2015, 04:59:38 PM
I'm glad the Watts showed itself on the road and not on the top end!

Just because I mentioned it,did the car launch more level today with the rear tightened up?

Go Jay , holding an all 8's average ;D.
Pulling for you here in Texas!
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjetmech on September 16, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
What did the Nova that is chasing him run?

Best of 9.06 that I saw but I missed the last couple hrs.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: XR7 on September 16, 2015, 11:50:32 PM
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Caught Jays interview.
Frieburger acknowledged giving Jay grief and was cool.

I saw that too Marc, I really think Jay did an excellent job letting him know he wasn't happy with his comment. The interview went well and Jay explained himself and turned the interview around in a very positive way and I think Frieburger appreciated that as well.

I don't think I could have handled it that good. Great job Jay!
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: Cyclone Joe on September 16, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Did anybody catch the time of the Jay interview?
Joe
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjshaker on September 17, 2015, 12:00:24 AM
Did anybody catch the time of the Jay interview?
Joe

I just updated some new links in the other thread. The interview is included.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: jgkurz on September 17, 2015, 07:08:09 PM
Sadly it's a Power-Slide  :'(

As in GM Powerglide?  Does it have a Gear Vendors OD? Interesting
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: machoneman on September 17, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
Yes a 2 speed GM based Powerglide and a Gear Vendors O.D. unit.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: cjshaker on September 17, 2015, 07:34:25 PM
Yes, a (cough) GM powerslide. ::) And yes, it's got a Gear Vendors overdrive.
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: jgkurz on September 17, 2015, 08:42:28 PM
Yes, a (cough) GM powerslide. ::) And yes, it's got a Gear Vendors overdrive.

Powerglides are a solid trans. I see them in used successfully in big power imports as well. I'm curious why a C4 wouldn't work? We put nearly 1000hp through them without a hiccup. Maybe the PG's can take substantialy more than a C4?
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: JAKES66 on September 17, 2015, 08:46:27 PM
Yes, a (cough) GM powerslide. ::) And yes, it's got a Gear Vendors overdrive.
Does Jay shift the PG manually?  Not sure if there are rules that require that or not?
Title: Re: Jay's GT500 launching at Indy
Post by: jgkurz on September 17, 2015, 08:56:35 PM
Just did a bit of research. Seems that Powerglides can handle huge power, 2500hp if built right. The max a C4 can handle is 1000hp. Guessing Jay wanted the extra buffer with the Powerglide.