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Private Classifieds / Assorted parts
« on: September 06, 2021, 06:27:36 PM »
Cost of part + shipping. If you see something you like but not the price, make me an offer.

Set of 16 adjustable rocker arms. They should be considered cores for rebuilding. Brand is unknown. Bores measured .844 or bigger. Some of the pads show wear. They do have the Crane adjuster screws and jam nuts.  $90.00









Tunnel Tote Console for Mustang in 65-66 Parchment color made by TMI. $75.00




Ford FE timing chain. Came on remanufactured long block. No run time. I do not know the brand. The S321 on the cam sprocket show up in the pictures on Rockauto for a Melling standard duty timimng chain.  $10.00

 






Holley Blue Fuel pump that’s been sitting in my tool box for years. I used it in the early 90’s for pumping water into a camper a few times a week over the course of 6-8 months. Never for gas. Motor runs and I would recommend a rebuild kit. $50.00

 






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FE Technical Forum / Another low oil pressure thread
« on: July 09, 2020, 10:40:46 PM »
Close to 500 miles on the motor now. With the first oil pump in this motor, it was close to 50 cold and hovered just below the 12.5 mark at 900 RPM. Gauge is marked 0/25/50/75/100 with 1/8 markings. I didn’t like it. Read through here here and learned about the Melling M57B and bought one from POPS. Now, cold oil pressure is closer to 70. Hot oil pressure has not changed. Hot oil pressure does climb with RPM.

Machine shop had mains at .002”. Rods are at .0025”. Rocker arms are resized with bronze bushings from Rocker Arms Unlimited with matching shafts. Oil to the heads is restricted, .070, I think. Thrust and rod side clearance are within spec. Block got typical oil mods and screw in gallery plugs.

Since the front seal is leaking, figured I would pull the distributor and spin the oil pump to see if anything look out of place. I can see the screw in plug behind the distributor. Spinning the oil pump, I get a stream of oil out of that plug!! Is that supposed to be that way?? It looks like it’s squirting a stream at the distributor gear.

Here is a video.
https://youtu.be/I2FNUaNudns


Thanks for looking.

Edit to add engine oil - VR1 10W-30

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FE Engine Dyno Results / Take 2 for the Mustang Motor
« on: May 25, 2020, 12:29:01 AM »
Performance Summary:
      Cubic Inches:   429            Dyno brand: Stuska
      Power Adder:  None             Where dynoed: Houston Engine & Balance
      Peak Horsepower: 486 @ 5600 RPM
      Peak Torque: 525 @ 4616 RPM

Horsepower and Torque Curves:


Engine Specifications:
   Block brand, material, finished bore size, other notes:
D4 Ford block 4.07 with ARP main bolts. Line hone was checked, Sonic test was good for a .030 bore from standard. Would not go .040. Typical oil mods to passage from pump to filter. All oil galley tapped for plugs. Did check for plug at distributor. It was there with small hole.
     
   Crankshaft brand, cast or forged, stroke, journal size:
Scat cast 4.125 stroke
     
   Connecting Rods brand, material, center to center distance, end sizes, bolts:
Scat BBC

   Piston brand, material (caster, hypereutectic or forged), dish/dome volume, static CR:
Race Tec forged, Wallace racing calculator has CR at 9.28

   Main Bearings, Rod Bearings, Cam Bearings brand and size:
Sealed Power main and rod bearings, standard. Not sure about cam bearings

   Piston rings brand, size, other notes:
Mahle plasma moly file fit

   Oil Pump, pickup, and drive:
Melling standard volume blueprinted by Houston Engine & Balance, Factory style pick-up, and ARP drive

   Oil pan, windage tray, oil filter adapter:
Factory pan for Mustang with Ford Racing windage tray and CJ oil filter adapter

   Camshaft brand, type (hyd/solid, flat tappet or roller), lift and duration (adv and @.050")
Comp cams hydraulic roller with .558 / .567 lift with 114 lobe separation degreed to cam card spec at 107 intake center line. Duration at .050 - Intake 230, Exhaust 235


   Lifters brand, type:
Morel hydraulic rollers 5325

   Timing chain and timing cover:
Ford Performance Parts Timing Chain Sets M-6268-A390 and Ford timing cover

   Cylinder heads brand, material, port and chamber information:
Felony Heads. – no port work. Oil passage tapped for restrictor plug with .070 hole


   Retainers and locks brand, part number, specs:
-.050 retainer to get spring height correct

   Rocker arm brand, type (adjustable or non-adj), material, ratio
Factory style non adjustable with matching oversized shafts from Rocker Arms Unlimited.

   Rocker shafts and stands, brand, material:
Oversized shafts matched to rockers from Rocker Arms Unlimited. POPS end stands, Ford center stands

   Pushrods brand, type, length:
Smith Brothers 8.748”

   Valve covers, brand, type:
Re-chromed Powered by Ford

   Distributor brand, advance curve information:
Remanufactured Duraspark, curve unknown

   Harmonic balancer brand:
Factory unit exchanged from Damper Dude

   Water pump brand, type (mechanical or electric):
Remanufactured stock unit

   Intake manifold brand, material, porting information:
Edelbrock RPM no porting

   Carburetor(s) brand, type
Holley 750 vacuum secondary converted for 4 corner adjustment

   Exhaust manifolds or headers brand, type:
Shop headers for dyno. Looked like Hooker 6113 or 6114. MY FPA’s got new coating and I didn’t want to chance them on the dyno again


https://youtu.be/oEu-nLYaTJk

His printer wasn’t working they day we did this. My print out is a picture.



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FE Technical Forum / Bell Housing alignment
« on: May 08, 2020, 10:12:54 AM »
Hi Guys, it looks like I need to get some alignment pins to make this work. Can I get some feed back on how I went about this and if it looks like I went about it correctly? The paint was cleaned off the back of the block. The flywheel was torqued then one bolt removed to set the dial indicator base.
First round by clock positions
12= .000”
3= .014”
6= .006”
9= -.008”
12= .000”

Second time around
12= .000”
3= .014”
6= .007”
9= -.008”
12= .000”


With the TKO 600, it allows .005” and going through Modern Driveline’s tech files, they say any needle movement over .010 will require alignment pins. Looks like I’m good on the 12-6 position, but the 3-9 position shows .022”.

So, what size pins should I get?
I found this chart online after some Googling. It was also include on the Installation instructions I downloaded for the bell housing after I first asked.

Total Indicator Reading   One-Half Total Indicator Reading   Dowel Size to Use   Lakewood Offset Dowel Pt.# GM .625"   Lakewood Offset Dowel Pt.# Ford/Mopar .500"
.012"-.020"                   .006"-.010"                                    .007"           LAK-15920                                        LAK-15950LKW

.022"-.034"                   .011"-.017"                                    .014"           LAK-15930                                        LAK-15960LKW

.036"-.052"                   .018"-.026"                                     .021"           LAK-15940                                        LAK-15970



Is there a preferred brand?
I bought pins from RobbMc Performance. The flats sticking out past the bell housing made them easy to adjust.

And what is the trick to removing the existing pin by the starter?

Edit to add info

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FE Technical Forum / Rocker arms and Shafts
« on: March 06, 2020, 11:39:38 PM »
Would you guys consider the relationship between the rocker arms and shafts to be similar to a flat tappet cam and lifters benefiting from oil with a high zinc content?

Is the old manual specs on rocker arms (.843 - .844), shafts (.839 - .840) with the .003 - .0055 clearance still acceptable?? My rockers range from .844 to .846 and the shafts are in the .8385 range.

I am in need of some nonadjustable steel rocker arms. I found Sealed Power replacements for $32 and change apiece which gets expensive for a complete set. Then there is a set of rocker arms, shafts, stands, and springs for about $230 on ebay and Jegs. I’m not sure how to justify the difference in price between them. What else is out there for options? 

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FE Technical Forum / It’s time for a new motor!!!
« on: November 14, 2019, 10:26:38 AM »
The Mustang has
5 speed Tremec with the .64 5th gear
power brakes
air conditioning
3.50 rear gears
245/45 17 tire


Here was the old motor with a broke crank!!!

Using the Wallace racing engines calculator, the static compression is 9.74 to 9.84 depending on deck height of .005 to .0 using the 11.7cc value.

Edelbrock RPM with a 750 vacuum secondary converted for 4 circuit idle. I do have a BT 2X4 for down the road at a later time.
Cam is a Comp Hydraulic roller – Lift is 574/574. Installed at 106 Intake centerline, Duration @ .050 is 227, lobe separation is 112. From talking with Comp this morning, it could be reground. They could move the duration and or lobe separation a few degrees. The lobe could be increased about .010 for a new lift of .591.
Duraspark distributor with factory ignition box
Timing chain Ford Motorsports with 9 position keyway
Standard volume oil pump with ARP drive
Head gasket Fel Pro 1020
Cylinder head – Felony heads from Barry w/ 76 cc chamber, adjustable rockers and POP’s end stands. I might swap over to nonadjustable rockers and new pushrods. 
Bore 4.11
Piston Sealed Power 381NP-.060 over - 10.33 to 11.7 cc depending on where I look.
Pin dia. Stock .975
Compression distance 1.66
Crank Stroke 3.98
Rod length Stock 6.488
Deck height 0 deck to .005 in the hole according to the Machinist

New motor

With only 6600 miles prior to crank break, I will reuse most of the parts I can. I do have another 390 block that should clean up at maybe .020, definitely by .030. I will buy a new Scat crank and rods and I’m leaning toward the 4.125 stroke. It gets me to 429 to 431 depending on bore clean up. I want to be in the 9.5 to 1 range for compression. The block will get decked to help achieve the right compression ratio.

Would the difference in stroke (4.125 vs 4.25) make a big difference in the scheme of things?

Is there a better selection of shelf pistons for the 4.25 stroke vs the 4.125? 

What would a ballpark price be for a custom set of pistons?

If the cam is reground to something different, what should it be? Is it worthwhile for the additional lift?

The intended purpose is to drive it. We drove it to Adrian Michigan for the Mustang Steve Bash with the crank breaking on the way home. The 2020 Bash will be in Surfside Beach South Carolina and I intend on being there. The car was a lot of fun to drive, it pulled from 1000 RPM in 4th gear and never bucked. 1600 RPM was about as low as it would go in 5th gear before it started to act up. The next motor needs to do that too.

Thanks for the help.

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FE Technical Forum / I broke my toy in Detroit!!! Updated Jan 2020
« on: June 23, 2019, 11:31:33 PM »
Ok guys, we the car to the Mustang Steve Bash in Clinton Michigan and made it up with no issues. We are now in Detroit!! Had just shifted back into 5th gear around 50. The car started to shake, I thought a tire came apart. I pushed in the clutch and headed for the side of the road. On the way to the shoulder the engine died. Did a walk around on the side of the road, all tires are good. Under the hood, all looks as it should. Try to start the car, it does not want to turn over. 
After a wrecker ride to the nearest hotel, I start looking for the cause.
No water in the oil.
No loss of coolant in radiator.
Pull valve covers, push rods look like they are supposed to, nothing appears bent or out of place.




Pulled the spark plugs, they appear ok to me. 

1-4 right to left


5-8 top to bottom

Use the ignition to spin the motor over. It goes about a turn and a half then stops. Hit the key again, and it spins even less and stops. Popped the distributor cap to look at rotor, it turns as the motor turns.
Loosened all belts, the water pump and all accessories spin freely. No improvement to length of time engine will spin over.
I used a long ratchet on the harmonic balancer bolt, it was all I could do to get it to rotate a small amount.
 
Took a picture through the hole in Scatter shield of clutch and TO bearing. It looks like it should.


I don’t have an oil pressure gauge, it hadn’t made it high enough on my priority list.

I have looked at all I can think of and went about as far as I can without draining the oil, have I missed anything? Thoughts?

I have a bad feeling about a spun bearing or something worse.

.060 390 block with 3.98 crank, about 9.5 compression on cast pistons, hydraulic roller cam, RPM intake.

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A Mustang Steve forum member talked me into attending the Freddy's Frozen Custard Car show on May 5. The show runs from 9 am o 3 pm. As long as the weather holds out, me and the car will be there. Come by a say Hi if you are in the area. It would be great to meat more of you in person.

Address is 2620 Pearland Parkway, Pearland Texas, 77581.

I will see if I can add a link from Facebook.

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FE Technical Forum / Narrowing a rear end
« on: May 03, 2019, 12:25:12 PM »
To eliminate my tire rub in the back when the trunk I loaded, I am at a point where I buy new rims at a hefty price, work on the rolling the fender lips some more and risk screwing up the paint, or narrow the rear end. Narrowing the rear is the most cost effective method if I can make use of my current axle shafts. I’m looking at taking a ½” on each side and adding back a 1/4” spacer it sets the tire into too far. It should eliminate the tire rub completely.

I pulled the axles out the other night to get some measurement. From the pictures below, it looks like there is about 1-1/8” of spline engaging a factory Ford traction lock unit. Is this the normal spline engagement?  With about 2” of splines available, does anyone see a reason I can’t cut a ½” off the shaft end??

When it comes to the axle shafts, Jegs brand 31 spline shafts, can I cut them with and angle grinder and abrasive cut off wheel? Would it be a best practice to keep the shaft as cool as possible during cutting with a wet rag or something similar?

Driver side


Passenger side
 

                               

Any and all comments appreciated.

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FE Technical Forum / Measurements of aluminum rocker spacers
« on: April 08, 2019, 11:17:15 PM »
What should be the inside dimension of an aluminum rocker spacer? I slid each of them over an old shaft and found more clearance than I expected. I want to make sure these are worthy of selling or just scrap aluminum.

Thanks

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Private Classifieds / Garage Cleaning
« on: April 07, 2019, 10:04:17 PM »
Cost of part + shipping. If you see something you like but not the price, shoot me an email with a reasonable offer.



71-73 Mustang disc brake spindles (D1ZA) and caliper brackets. Blasted and coated with a self-etching primer. $125.00

   

     


Explorer rear disc brakes. Backing plate, caliper, and E brake cables $85.00. Can be bolted onto the big bearing housing rear ends.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2fsJNdg]
 


Ford FE timing chain. Came on remanufactured long block. No run time. I do not know the brand. $10.00 4

 






Holley Blue Fuel pump that’s been sitting in my tool box for years. I used it in the early 90’s for pumping water into a camper a few times a week over the course of 6-8 months. Never for gas. Motor runs and I would recommend a rebuild kit. $60.00

 






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Non-FE Discussion Forum / 3.0 liter Ford 24V V-6 in Mazda Tribute
« on: March 29, 2019, 09:37:49 PM »
I could use some help and know that some of you guys may be familiar with this thing.

It’s a 2002 with 180,000 miles. It’s a spare that gets driven on my off days every other Friday. The main catalytic converters are made into the exhaust manifolds and it’s melted down the second catalytic converter on the back side (cylinders 1, 2, & 3) in less than 10,000 miles. There is a third converter under the car that gets clogged by the upstream melt down.

Generally, the check engine light is off. When it has come on, it’s usually a code for misfire on a cylinder. It was #3 one time and #5 more recently. It has been having a stumble or dead miss for the last few months. You can see the needle on the Tach drop about 200 RPM at idle when it happens. I’ve changed the fuel filter several times and it helps for a little while, but goes back to acting the same. Fuel filters have not been changed on a regular basis for years. Some of the first few I did change has small black looking specks in them. The most recent did not. I have also been adding Seafoam to every other tank. Up to this point, I’ve been thinking its clogged fuel injectors. The only cleaning they’ve ever had was from pouring a can of something in the tank.

Pulled the plugs for a compression test today. Cylinder 4 was the lowest at 150 PSI. All others were in the 170 to 180 range. Added some WD-40 to each and retested. All shot up another 20 PSI. The plugs on 1 and 2 are the most suspect, and seems wetter than any of the others, but not oily. Coloring looked decent on the porcelain.

Its in need of valve cover gaskets. Could oil leaking into the area with the spark plug cause issues with its ability to fire? It’s from something I read…..You guys are a more trusted source to verify or call BS.

Could it still be clogged injectors? Are they worth cleaning or just replacing?

Until the compression test, I was thinking it could be a burnt valve. Not so sure though.

Any thoughts on what else could it be??

When I did this the last time, it was the factory unit that melted down. It was replaced with a middle priced unit from Rockauto with good reviews along with the Cat underneath the car, oil change, and a fresh set of plugs.

Considering the last 2 years recent, it’s also received new drums, rotors, pads, shoes, soft brake hoses, radiator, hoses, and a battery.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

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