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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Distributor
« on: October 08, 2015, 07:07:39 PM »
I've been continuing my research on this engine and I've come across some conflicting information when looking for the original distributor information. I know that it used a dual breaker transistorized ignition with only mechanical advance. For a drag racing application, vacuum advance is useless. The conflicting info I run into is the part number. The shop manual says C5AF-12127-BY and I've found from more than one reference (however not an official one) online that the SOHC had a C5AF-12127-AZ part number. I haven't been able to find actual pictures of the BY unit but have found pictures of the AZ unit. I know that the body of the distributor was the same, the last letter(s) indicate how the timing was setup. Any insight on this is appreciated.

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FE Technical Forum / Dynamic Cranking Pressures
« on: September 22, 2015, 02:13:40 AM »
I've been diving into the complexities of dynamic compression ratios and I was wondering what some of you guys who have been around this green earth longer than I have know about the threshold for cylinder pressures. Since this forum, and my interests, revolve around the FE, lets base this knowledge off of FE pistons, including the SOHC, for N/A and FI. I'm looking at how much the DCP increases with the DCR and the increases aren't huge. I'm seeing 8.18:1 with 165.7 psi and 8.50:1 with 171.94 psi in a a 427 example (4.238" bore, 3.784" stroke and 11.067:1 SCR), at sea level with 0 boost. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but what makes the fuel mixture detonate is too high of a DCP and cylinder temp. I would think if you were around a detonation threshold at say 170 psi, you could decrease the lambda a little bit to give it just enough cooling from the fuel to offset it. This is all based on theory however, so I figured it's time to ask the wise men around here. On a related note, is it correct to set boost to 0 for a N/A engine? Thanks in advance :)

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FE Technical Forum / Cylinder Distortion
« on: September 16, 2015, 08:22:46 PM »
I came across this video and it made me wonder, how common is it for engine builders to hone the cylinders without being under load?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cLjdr2GSwU

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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Rocker Shaft Question
« on: August 23, 2015, 12:22:40 AM »
I was thinking about the oiling system for the SOHC and how the oil is pumped through the rocker shafts. Are the ends of the rocker shafts open or closed? I would figure that there would be a benefit to capping off the ends of the rocker shafts with machine set screws in order to allow oil pressure to build up in the shafts if they aren't. By having the rocker shafts open on the ends, excess oil just runs out the sides. Thoughts?

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FE Technical Forum / Flat Plane Crank
« on: August 10, 2015, 10:12:02 PM »
Ford's new voodoo engine has me thinking, how possible would it be to put a flat plane crank in a FE? I know the problem with flat plane crank V8's is higher vibrations. A heavy flywheel might help with that but... how possible would this be? How much do you guys think a flat plane crank would improve a FE's power? It's a crazy thought I had and well, I can't be the only one interested in where this rabbit hole goes.

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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Rocker Spacers
« on: August 05, 2015, 09:34:08 AM »
Does anyone have more information on this spacer clip? Any design information?


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FE Technical Forum / Car Craft July 1969
« on: August 02, 2015, 08:37:27 AM »
I'll most likely share a few pieces from this issue. To start, here is the article on Sneaky Pete Robinson's gear drive. The original scans for this were done with 1200 dpi settings and as such, the images were twice as big as these are and came in at 140+ MB. So I had to resize them. Open them in a new tab for full size. Enjoy




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FE Technical Forum / Hot Rod January 1965
« on: July 30, 2015, 07:08:19 PM »
Several years ago I got my hands on a copy of this issue (I collect a lot of 60's area mags on the SOHC and the Cobra) and I'm getting around to sharing the scans I took of it so many years ago. Enjoy. Open the image in a new tab to see it full size.







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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Gear Drive
« on: July 29, 2015, 04:00:49 PM »
Looking through my collection of SOHC related stuff, I found an image of an article I once saved. It's rather hard to read at times (requires you to zoom in on the picture) but it is interesting. I will try to transcribe it in the next hour or so.


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FE Technical Forum / Dynamic Compression Ratio
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:09:13 AM »
I've been doing a bunch of calculations, for fun, and after a particular DCR I figured it is worth talking about with this awesome lot. I've been looking at the DCR for the original SOHC crate engines and I'm not sure if I believe the rather high DCR I've found. It would explain the decent performance of the crate engines but I'm not sure if they are accurate as such a high DCR could lead to trouble. Below are all the factors I used to compute the dynamic compression ratio.

Bore: 4.232"
Stroke: 3.784'
Rod Length: 6.489"
Static Compression Ratio: 12.01:1
Intake Closing Angle ABDC: 57

   The ICA value comes from the following cam specs and calculation.

   Factory Cams Profile
   Lift:  Intake - 0.433"  Exhaust - 0.433"
   Duration (seat to seat):  Intake - 258  Exhaust - 258
   Lobe Separation Angle - 108

   ICA = (Intake Duration / 2) + LSA + total advance (ground in advance + timing advance) - 180
   ICA = 129 + 108 + 0+0 -180 = 57

Altitude: 0 feet, sea level
Boost Pressure: 0 PSI

Plugging these values into this calculator: http://www.wallaceracing.com/dynamic-cr.php  Gave me a DCR of 10.08:1 with a dynamic cylinder pressure of 213.82 PSI. I know this is largely effected by the static CR and the ICA. If you're running high compression, you almost have to run an aggressive cam to bleed off some pressure. But the cam used is rather mild, resulting in a low ICA. So I wanted to check with all of you if this made sense. Below are my two sources for the specs.

http://www.racedyne.com/Racedyne_Inc./427_SOHC_Cams.html
http://www.carmemories.com/ford-engine-specifications/ford-427-428-429-specs/427-motor.html

I would also really like my sources to be confirmed or be corrected on the specs. I care a lot about historical accuracy.

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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Production Numbers
« on: July 01, 2015, 10:20:15 PM »
I remember reading on a few different topics a while back some individuals were wondering about the specifics of the SOHC production numbers. A long time ago I found and saved a couple scanned documents and am getting around to sharing that info now. The first document covers how many sets of factory aluminum SOHC heads were made. It says 75 sets were made, so 150 heads. The second doc goes into the production numbers of crate engines.




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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Intake Manifolds
« on: May 07, 2015, 01:44:44 PM »
I realized last night that I am sitting on a bunch of research on the SOHC, including intake manifolds. Some of these have been found on eBay over the past 5+ years and as such, are no longer visible. I can't remember finding anywhere online where someone could find out information specifically about the SOHC intake manifolds. If the intake was a Ford part, I tried to get the part number whenever possible. Some of these intakes though are very, very rare. :) More pictures can be found in the link below.

https://plus.google.com/photos/108907720764484306437/albums/6146185049650914321

Single Carb Intakes

The first one is a single carb, dual plane with p/n C6AE-9424-J, which is identical to C6AE-9425-J as far as I can tell.




Below is C6AE-9425-J




The last single carb intake I know of is C6AE-9425-I. I have only confirmed the existence of this intake on 1 cammer, found in a Starline. I got the p/n from an eBay listing, I believe I spoke to the seller about it.




Dual Carb Intakes

I only know of one factory dual carb intake, C6AE-9425-L. Robert Pond makes a repro of this.



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FE Technical Forum / SOHC Valvetrain Testing?
« on: May 06, 2015, 05:21:57 PM »
I've been following cammer builds and research for several years now and Mr. Conley's work is unbelievably fascinating. It doesn't look like there has been any new tests since April of 2013 and I was wondering if there was any new testing done since then? I know from the last update a PAC 1555 beehive spring was used but no test results were shown. In recent years, Comp Cams has come out with conical and dual conical springs that appear to be even better than the beehive design. I understand the underlying concept for the conical design, it allows for a progressively changing resonant frequency, making it harder for valve float to happen. The design also allows for natural dampening of the spring. It would be awesome to see tests done that compare these 3 types of springs.

I've lurked in the shadows for a long time and now I'd like to learn more about this wonderful engine in a more direct way.

Thanks,
Joe

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