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FE Technical Forum / Re: C6 fluid restriction
« on: May 10, 2024, 11:01:11 AM »
"In theory" the Dacron filter is "better" because the finer filter media catches more debris.

"All" transmissions create debris just in normal operation.

Ford valve bodies and governors are not very tolerant to fine debris and tend to stick the valves.

That said, the Ford engineers obviously knew what they were doing when they specified a metal mesh filter.
The C6 pump is not particularly high volume,
but is does need the flow capability of a screen filter, rather than the Dacron or other paper type media.

Restricted pump intake is more of a concern for pump damage to occur, not so much for the rest of the trans burning up.

You don't want the pump to work so hard to pull oil from the pan, and potentially "run dry" as damage *will* happen.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: C6 fluid restriction
« on: May 09, 2024, 02:41:51 PM »
Quote from: BigBlueIron on May 08, 2024, 01:53:40 PM
So I put one of those B&M deep pans on, about the only one that would clear the cross member. Fits good and well made. It came with a filter extension which uses some weird filter held on with machine screws. I don't like the looks of it flow wise. The feed hole is about 5/8" with goes to a 1/2" tube. Looks like it could be a restriction to me. Trans seems to shift fine and maybe i'm imagining things but seems like i can hear a slight squeal when really getting on it, like starving the pump.


Just wondering if anyone has any horror stories with these aftermarket filter setups or if i'm being paranoid. Next time that pans off tho I will replace with a 4x4 filter and custom stand pipe..

That sounds like the Mopar filter and adapter that is sometimes used on Ford transmissions.

Is the filter a metal mesh screen type? Or a fiber Dacron filter?
They make both.

I've had trouble with the Dacron Mopar filter on a C6 before.
Too restrictive and sometimes causes a pump whine.

Best to stick with an OEM Ford type filter.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: C6 oil change
« on: May 03, 2024, 08:22:45 PM »
That TCI 428501 is a Mopar filter. As seen on the Summit site.
It requires an adapter to mate with the C6 valve body.

TCI website is no help.
For ALL their filter options, they show a generic photo of a GM 4L60E filter kit.

There are 3 different factory filters for the C6.

The early "flat" filter for the passenger car shallow pan.

Slightly deeper filter for the later "Truck deep pan".

Truck 4X4 filter that is basically the same depth as the "Truck deep pan",
except it has a rubber grommet and a small tube extension for the deeper yet 4X4 pan.

The 4X4 "Ford type" filter is what came with my Summit branded deep cast aluminum C6 pan.
I don't know the depth of the TCI pan you have, or if the Ford 4X4 filter would fit.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 600 HP snow gas engine
« on: April 20, 2024, 04:58:57 AM »
Is that a Lykins custom roller cam I see there?  ;D


I don't think that engine will fit in my Galaxie.....

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Strange New Vibration after changing a diff..?
« on: April 13, 2024, 09:56:05 AM »
Nothing else was changed, so this may not be it...
...but are the u-joint angles ok?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: max spring pressure with aluminum heads
« on: April 07, 2024, 08:24:43 AM »
Here's a fun test of thread repair inserts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jknMrFOGMOQ&ab_channel=ProjectFarm


Go to approx 10 minute mark to see the pull tests.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Need to quiet down our 484 FE...
« on: March 26, 2024, 08:40:46 PM »
Coolest sounding street car I ever witnessed was a 71 Mustang with a very stout 351C.
It had long tube headers (don't know what brand etc) and full chambered "stock type" mufflers.
Full length system.

At idle with a slightly rumpity cam it sounded awesome!

You could hear the headers slightly "ring" with each exhaust pulse if you knew what to listen for,
and out back was a quiet rumble.
Not offensive at all.

A close second was my 69 Cyclone CJ with a brand new OEM replacement exhaust system.
When I got the car in the late 70's the original system was rotted out, and not knowing any better...
I ordered a complete system from the manifolds back from my local Ford dealer.
Still had the CJ exhaust manifolds on it.

The exhaust note was "just right" but minus the header noise.
Again, a quiet rumble that never got offensive even when the loud pedal was on the floor.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Who Made this Rod?
« on: March 11, 2024, 04:06:11 PM »
Quote from: Rory428 on March 11, 2024, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: galaxiex on March 07, 2024, 04:13:52 PM
Oh Noooo's !

I installed the cast aluminum oil pan on my FE with socket head cap screws!

Now the pan is gonna fall off at the most inopportune time!

 ;)   ;D   ;D   ;D    ::)

I certainly hope that you are not comparing the stress of 20 bolts holding a 10 pound oil pan to the block, to the stresses of 2 connecting rod bolts pulling down a piston at high RPM, and keeping the rod anchored  to a reciprocating crankshaft, right?

It was posted as a joke.....  ;)   ;D

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil gallery
« on: March 11, 2024, 04:01:55 PM »
I can testify to going slow and careful when you tap that hole behind the dist.

I forgot to drill thru first, so the tap bound up and I snapped the tap off in the hole when I did my 428.  ::)

I can tell you I was sweating getting the broken tap out!
Near impossible to drill a broken tap!
Very limited room to work!

I did get it out but I buggered up the hole so that I had to go up to the next size.

I got it done but it was not a fun time.  :(  Lots of cussin' involved....


(read my sig)

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Who Made this Rod?
« on: March 07, 2024, 04:13:52 PM »
Oh Noooo's !

I installed the cast aluminum oil pan on my FE with socket head cap screws!

Now the pan is gonna fall off at the most inopportune time!

 ;)   ;D   ;D   ;D    ::)

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Flexplates
« on: February 25, 2024, 01:33:14 PM »
Unless the converter to flexplate clearance is already on the tight side.
0.035" is not likely to make any difference.

As long as you have to pull the converter "forward" to mate to the flexplate, you're good.
Clearance is normally 1/16 to 3/16 or even 1/4"
1/16 is tight and 1/4 is a bit loose.

1/8 to 3/16 = ideal.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Trickflow heads - gone for good?
« on: February 24, 2024, 01:16:34 PM »
I have a Trick Flow FE head saved in my wish list at Summit.
It "used to" say available a few months out.

It now says "Not Available".

Not a good sign....

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Trickflow heads - gone for good?
« on: February 24, 2024, 11:46:28 AM »
Quote from: Fordman on February 23, 2024, 06:07:11 PM
There are several sets left on eBay, both assembled and bare. It's not like there are NONE left out there. Just saying....

Beware the delivery date on those Ebay parts.
If they say a couple or 3 months out, that means the seller does NOT have stock,
and they are projecting the delivery "when" they get them from the manufacturer.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: toploader shifting
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:27:36 PM »
Quote from: Rory428 on February 22, 2024, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: galaxiex on February 22, 2024, 04:26:04 PM
I used to run Dex III ATF in my top loader. 390 Mustang street use.
Makes it shift "easier" and smoother.
Not great for bearing life tho... not as much film strength as gear oil.
If you don't abuse it too hard the ATF can work for mild street use.

Maybe try it just temporarily to see if it helps?

FWIW the OEM's went to ATF for many of their passenger car and some light trucks manual transmissions.
The mid to late 80's and 90's F150 5.0L with the Mazda 5 speed calls for ATF.
If you put 80-90 gear oil in it, it won't shift worth crap and the trans eventually will fail.


Honda manual trans used to use 30W engine oil 70's to 90's.
I don't know what they use now.

Don`t base what transmission fluid should used in a vintage Toploader, based on what modern transmission use. Toploaders use bronze syncro rings, and are designed to be used with GL4 gear oil, I use 75/90 Brad Penn GL4 fluid in my Toploader, it shifts great, in normal cruising as well as WOT powershifting. Many modern transmissions use some type of ATF, but they do NOT use bronze syncros, rather they are  carbon fiber, or have paper lining, like an automatic. Not to mention that a heavier lube would be better for absorbing shock loads.

With all due respect there are many manual transmissions that spec ATF and use brass synchro rings.
The Ford/Mazda M50D is one such.
Ford specs Mercon for that trans and it definitely uses brass/bronze rings.
I’ve been building transmissions for 45 years and have seen many other units that also use brass rings and spec ATF.
True, many units have fiber or other materials and require atf.
But atf won’t hurt brass rings.
Also true the gear oil absorbs shock loads better, but I put 80,000 miles on my top loader with ATF in it and when I opened it up for a refresh it was still like new inside.
Changed seals and put it back together.
Obviously don’t use atf for drag strip use and 7000 rpm clutch dumps.
YMMV

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FE Technical Forum / Re: toploader shifting
« on: February 22, 2024, 04:26:04 PM »
I used to run Dex III ATF in my top loader. 390 Mustang street use.
Makes it shift "easier" and smoother.
Not great for bearing life tho... not as much film strength as gear oil.
If you don't abuse it too hard the ATF can work for mild street use.

Maybe try it just temporarily to see if it helps?

FWIW the OEM's went to ATF for many of their passenger car and some light trucks manual transmissions.
The mid to late 80's and 90's F150 5.0L with the Mazda 5 speed calls for ATF.
If you put 80-90 gear oil in it, it won't shift worth crap and the trans eventually will fail.


Honda manual trans used to use 30W engine oil 70's to 90's.
I don't know what they use now.

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