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Title: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Jb427 on September 08, 2021, 12:02:09 PM
any one used bolt in replacements for std type shock spring set up for a bolt in adjustable coilover? no mods bolt in type
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Jb427 on September 08, 2021, 12:11:50 PM
like these https://aldanamerican.com/product/coilover-kit-ford-fairlane-1966-front-450-lbs-in-0-0-2-0-in-lowered-sku-m1sbf2s/
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Stangman on September 08, 2021, 02:32:53 PM
Thats a pretty nice setup. Does anyone know what a stock big block spring rate is. Thats gotta save 20lbs a side.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: gregaba on September 08, 2021, 03:09:40 PM
I installed the Aldan setup on my 71 Ranchero. Went in great and if I remember the coil rate is 400 lbs for the big block.
I liked them so much I ordered a set for my 63 Galaxie.
Greg
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Stangman on September 08, 2021, 04:54:13 PM
The spring dampening has multiple settings I think the add says. Is there a 90/10 for the front
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: JamesonRacing on September 09, 2021, 06:57:19 AM
I've installed this kit in my 66 Fairlane and my 65 Falcon.

Well made, easy to install.

https://streetortrack.com/suspension/front-suspension/coilover-system/street-or-track-mustang-front-bilstein-coilover-system
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Falcon67 on September 09, 2021, 09:44:35 AM
The spring dampening has multiple settings I think the add says. Is there a 90/10 for the front

With double adjustable shocks you'd have to dial in the equivalent for extension and rebound.  I'd imagine Aldan or the shock mfg could get you a close dial in to start.

I like the Aldan setup.  Wonder how the "450 in/lb" rate works in place of my Moroso Trick springs that are 242 in/lbs.  They may have other spring rates available.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: pbf777 on September 09, 2021, 09:45:24 AM
     In my opinion, the first set-up referenced is asking a lot of the top three bolts & area about the fastening in the shock-tower (might want to add some additional steel weldment reinforcement here)   ;)  ; and the second looks a lot like a Rube-Goldberg endeavor to make a wrong coil-over fit in an application it doesn't belong (and accepting an overly compact component, when if taking advantage of the available distance something better could be had just seems wrong)!   :o

     But it's all bright & shinny; and it sells!   ::)

     Scott.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: gregaba on September 09, 2021, 09:52:39 AM
The Alden system comes with a thick top plate and new bolts for the top of the shop tower.
Seems to be much stronger then stock.
Greg
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: hbstang on September 09, 2021, 01:31:35 PM
these a pretty nice as well,and have a tapered spring.they are viking double adjustable shocks and springs.bolt in for fairlane.i have a set on my 64 fairlane,but have not driven the car yet!they are nice quality parts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334005733960?hash=item4dc44b0a48:g:MWcAAOSwowtgaa4U
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Jb427 on September 09, 2021, 02:06:26 PM
I was going to get this kit but 550 pound springs may be too much? https://aldanamerican.com/product/coilover-kit-ford-fairlane-1966-front-550-lbs-in-0-0-2-0-in-lowered-sku-m1bbf2s/
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: gregaba on September 09, 2021, 03:11:31 PM
My setup is basicly the same with the same spring rate. If ypu think about an FE will weigh in above 500 pounds.
I know with my 71 with a 429 they work fine.
Not sure but I think the 429 is lighter then the FE.
Greg
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Jb427 on September 09, 2021, 03:45:59 PM
My setup is basicly the same with the same spring rate. If ypu think about an FE will weigh in above 500 pounds.
I know with my 71 with a 429 they work fine.
Not sure but I think the 429 is lighter then the FE.
Greg

Yes i went from a stock 390 c6 to 482 bbm and toploader and mine droped almost 1 inch over what it was before
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: 66FAIRLANE on September 09, 2021, 05:59:05 PM
Yes i went from a stock 390 c6 to 482 bbm and toploader and mine droped almost 1 inch over what it was before

Where the hell did the extra weight come from? Thought the new combo would be loaded with aluminium.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: pbf777 on September 09, 2021, 07:34:57 PM
Not sure but I think the 429 is lighter then the FE.


     Not in O.E.M. production trim.  Believe me, the 385's are heavier!    ;)

     Scott.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Jb427 on September 09, 2021, 08:03:17 PM
Yes i went from a stock 390 c6 to 482 bbm and toploader and mine droped almost 1 inch over what it was before

Where the hell did the extra weight come from? Thought the new combo would be loaded with aluminium.

Only heads and intake and my old 390 had a alloy intake on it. Mine would be fine but the lakewood scatter shield has the 2 inch lip right around it that eats up my speed bump height.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: SSdynosaur on September 09, 2021, 11:32:54 PM
Modifications to the bell housing in any fashion will exclude your housing from future re-certifications and could possibly eliminate your car from competition on a sanctioned drag strip. Some tech inspectors subscribe to the opinion that even if the class you desire to compete in has no requirement  for an item of safety equipment which you have chosen to install then you are still required to maintain the current certification just as if the item were required by the class rules. Good luck.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Jb427 on September 10, 2021, 05:20:51 AM
Modifications to the bell housing in any fashion will exclude your housing from future re-certifications and could possibly eliminate your car from competition on a sanctioned drag strip. Some tech inspectors subscribe to the opinion that even if the class you desire to compete in has no requirement  for an item of safety equipment which you have chosen to install then you are still required to maintain the current certification just as if the item were required by the class rules. Good luck.

Not sure what that has to do with coilover shock's and street use my car is not a super stock car.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Falcon67 on September 10, 2021, 09:35:15 AM
He's just giving you a heads up from the track trenches that NHRA inspectors can be azzholes.  Should you decide to play in some event where they are present.

There are a multitude of different springs available for the Aldan kist
https://aldanamerican.com/custom-coilover-springs/
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Blueoval77 on September 10, 2021, 06:21:17 PM
Vikings
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Skylaneav8r on September 15, 2021, 09:50:20 AM
I installed a set of QA1 coil overs on my 69 Mach1 last year.
Best money I have spent on the car so far.
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: e philpott on September 15, 2021, 11:25:31 AM
Yes i went from a stock 390 c6 to 482 bbm and toploader and mine droped almost 1 inch over what it was before

Where the hell did the extra weight come from? Thought the new combo would be loaded with aluminium.

The BBM is much heavier than a basic 390 , between the additional lifter valley reinforcements , thicker cylinder walls , thicker deck , beefier main caps all adds up
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: mike7570 on September 15, 2021, 12:55:59 PM
Yes i went from a stock 390 c6 to 482 bbm and toploader and mine droped almost 1 inch over what it was before

Where the hell did the extra weight come from? Thought the new combo would be loaded with aluminium.

A BBM block is quite a bit heavier than a factory FE, about 75lbs IIRC
Title: Re: Bolt in front coilover's
Post by: Falcon67 on September 21, 2021, 10:03:35 AM
Vikings

What crossmember/control arms are you running there?  Thanks!