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FE Technical Forum / Re: Sad news Charles Crites has passed away
« on: May 01, 2023, 12:48:05 PM »
Best wishes to Vicky and the remaining crew at Crites Restoration.
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Best wishes to Vicky and the remaining crew at Crites Restoration.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: replacement battery for 1963 galaxie with factory battery tray
« on: November 28, 2022, 11:20:33 AM »
A Motorcraft BTX 36R (650 cca) with a small block of wood on the alternator side has worked perfectly for me since 2015. Just have to trim the hold down tab off of the one side at the bottom. I plan to replace it this coming Spring, but will see how a blue top I have on hand fits first.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: February 10, 2022, 06:14:18 PM »
Thanks cammer.
I ended up with a pre-5/10/1967 unit that has a 57-tooth front ring gear vs. the later 90-tooth count. We sourced the pricey 57-th frictions, but is there any benefit to replacing the front ring gear with a 90-tooth unit? If so, are ANY other changes required?
I'm sending the VB and forward drum to Jay to have the shift kit installed, lube holes enlarged, and a new snap ring groove cut to hold #5.
I ended up with a pre-5/10/1967 unit that has a 57-tooth front ring gear vs. the later 90-tooth count. We sourced the pricey 57-th frictions, but is there any benefit to replacing the front ring gear with a 90-tooth unit? If so, are ANY other changes required?
I'm sending the VB and forward drum to Jay to have the shift kit installed, lube holes enlarged, and a new snap ring groove cut to hold #5.
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Member Projects / Re: Rebuilding the c6 in my Galaxie
« on: September 28, 2021, 04:05:27 PM »
Thank ya sir, I THINK he's good to go now.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 22, 2021, 10:59:21 AM »
Looks like Broader's instructions mention eliminating the waved spring to get an extra one in there, but advises against using a lower pressure plate due to the leverage of the disc spring. Guess if he can source one for reasonable price Ill step up, otherwise Ill prob. settle for 4 disc.
Think I've settled on Stage 4 calibration w/o the VB channel cut, and the stiffer Shift Command spring w/o hex nut.
Think I've settled on Stage 4 calibration w/o the VB channel cut, and the stiffer Shift Command spring w/o hex nut.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 17, 2021, 01:01:16 PM »
If early spec. and you end up wanting to move it, let me know. 
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 17, 2021, 07:52:31 AM »
Appreciate that, I'll see what I have and let builder deal if its missing.
Is .020-.030 clearance in the forward drum with or w/o the spring plate?
I picked up the thinner, early Belleville spring. It sounds like I could have gone with the later spring though instead? Worth getting another one? Assume have to make up for this elsewhere in the stack though huh?
Is .020-.030 clearance in the forward drum with or w/o the spring plate?
I picked up the thinner, early Belleville spring. It sounds like I could have gone with the later spring though instead? Worth getting another one? Assume have to make up for this elsewhere in the stack though huh?
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 16, 2021, 05:13:48 PM »
Thx for the info as per usual, my builder said he can spec one so guess well see whats inside and how much for a larger drum with this ring gear hub.
My D servo showed uo today and made me realize my H servos are for a C4, so Im back to D / F combo and returning this E lever. I'm so over it...haha. Fail.
My D servo showed uo today and made me realize my H servos are for a C4, so Im back to D / F combo and returning this E lever. I'm so over it...haha. Fail.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 16, 2021, 03:57:11 PM »
Im just assuming its a 4-disc since its from 1967 and behind a 390-2v, but maybe Ill luck out?
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 16, 2021, 03:02:45 PM »
Of course, lots of gotchas in these C6's. 
I'll probably have to stick with the 4-disc drum and I suppose swap out these non-HIPO frictions then.
...or maybe it's worth trying to find a machine shop to handle it for me? Seen mixed thoughts on the larger groove being an issue.
I'll probably have to stick with the 4-disc drum and I suppose swap out these non-HIPO frictions then.
...or maybe it's worth trying to find a machine shop to handle it for me? Seen mixed thoughts on the larger groove being an issue.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:18:38 AM »
Sorry to keep kicking this back to the top, almost across the finish line.
Since I have an early 4 clutch forward drum, and my builder doesn't want to do any machining, it seems as though my only option is to purchase a 5 clutch forward drum? Does this swap change anything else critical in my Broader kit or just a typical tolerance check / adjustment? Anyone have a good source for the drum? Additionally, I think he specs the cheaper, non-performance frictions for the forward drum, so I'd either need to score a single steel/friction or switch the whole pack out for another set of reds? He doesn't seem to have these items in stock and recommends I just stick with 4 clutchs in this drum. Thoughts?
Since I have an early 4 clutch forward drum, and my builder doesn't want to do any machining, it seems as though my only option is to purchase a 5 clutch forward drum? Does this swap change anything else critical in my Broader kit or just a typical tolerance check / adjustment? Anyone have a good source for the drum? Additionally, I think he specs the cheaper, non-performance frictions for the forward drum, so I'd either need to score a single steel/friction or switch the whole pack out for another set of reds? He doesn't seem to have these items in stock and recommends I just stick with 4 clutchs in this drum. Thoughts?
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 14, 2021, 05:26:12 PM »
Welp my parts are all here except for the E lever I just ordered. Think I will go H / E. There are so few parts here, I'm thinking twice about having it built now, but it's probably best since it will sit for a few years before install. I think I will run ATI Super F vs. Redline's synthetic F type, if anyone has thoughts on that. Will run the cork pan gasket and the Raybestos Pro Series kevlar intermediate band even though it appears as flimsy as can be. I'm confirming on whether or not I need to remove the fluid dams on it since it looks like it wasn't done as per instructions.
I suppose I will run the stage 4 VB calibration though there is no turning back with the servo modulator valve bypass. I don't think I've ever been behind a C6 I'm embarrassed to admit. I'm not sure if I want to just raise the manual shift points "shift command" safety feature with the new spring, or completely eliminate it with the spring and hex nut if anyone wants to weigh in on this.
I can't think ya'll enough for helping me out with this project. You wouldn't believe how frustrating the whole process has been since I was completely clueless about C6's and didn't even know what to try to find for a donor, let alone all these other details with an early case and all. Hopefully it will be that much more rewarding when bolted up to a fresh rebuild.
For now, the plan is to only eliminate the check ball in the secondary valve piston in the governor should I find one there. I can't really find much more info than that, and even that seems sketchy.
It isn't much, but I'd like to offer up my Broader F lever now, and maybe eventually my other servos if any of you would be interested.
I suppose I will run the stage 4 VB calibration though there is no turning back with the servo modulator valve bypass. I don't think I've ever been behind a C6 I'm embarrassed to admit. I'm not sure if I want to just raise the manual shift points "shift command" safety feature with the new spring, or completely eliminate it with the spring and hex nut if anyone wants to weigh in on this.
I can't think ya'll enough for helping me out with this project. You wouldn't believe how frustrating the whole process has been since I was completely clueless about C6's and didn't even know what to try to find for a donor, let alone all these other details with an early case and all. Hopefully it will be that much more rewarding when bolted up to a fresh rebuild.
For now, the plan is to only eliminate the check ball in the secondary valve piston in the governor should I find one there. I can't really find much more info than that, and even that seems sketchy.
It isn't much, but I'd like to offer up my Broader F lever now, and maybe eventually my other servos if any of you would be interested.
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 10, 2021, 07:35:35 PM »
I just picked up a D servo to allow more options. Emailed another guy to who might have some insight. Appreciate ya!
Emailed another guy to who might have some insight. Appreciate ya!
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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Broader C6 Oil Mods?
« on: September 10, 2021, 05:02:41 PM »
Using galaxiex's chart, I took the servo and lever specs and worked out some values for various combos by multiplying the servo apply value by the lever ratio. Not sure how accurately this reflects anything however: (servo / lever)
G / E: 3.77
D / E: 3.85
H / E: 4.33
R / E: 4.59
G / F: 4.69
D / F: 4.78
H / F: 5.38
R / F: 5.70
Looks like an H / F combo would be quite a bit more aggressive than the typical R / E, and nearing the known limits of the R / F combo, so I think I'd either want to stick with G / F, or go with H / E? I have no idea how these parts work together to be able to know which combo would be more desirable. It's nice to have options though!
G / E: 3.77
D / E: 3.85
H / E: 4.33
R / E: 4.59
G / F: 4.69
D / F: 4.78
H / F: 5.38
R / F: 5.70
Looks like an H / F combo would be quite a bit more aggressive than the typical R / E, and nearing the known limits of the R / F combo, so I think I'd either want to stick with G / F, or go with H / E? I have no idea how these parts work together to be able to know which combo would be more desirable. It's nice to have options though!