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FE Technical Forum / Re: How much overbore on D4TE block?
« on: February 24, 2023, 08:57:33 AM »
This subject comes up a lot on the FE forums and groups.  After reading all of the posts (including some from guys who worked in Flat Rock) over the past 25 years here is my take on the MCC FE blocks.  The nominal cylinder wall thickness is the same as the earlier DIF and CF blocks.  The difference is that the new MCC plant used robotic casting core placement processes versus the manual core setting used at the DIF.  Therefore the relative positions of the bore and water jacket cores were more precise than at the DIF.  So this means that MCC blocks (D3TE and D4TE) can "usually" be safely overbored more than a DIF block.  I understand why people assume that they must have thicker cylinder walls than DIF blocks but I am pretty sure this is not the case. I could be wrong but that is my humble opinion on this subject.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Jay: Possible VC style for your production
« on: December 22, 2022, 10:24:06 AM »
Those are stamped steel.  It's not just an "ask Jay to make a mold and produce" type of part.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 1968 427 Cougar block date range question
« on: December 03, 2022, 08:58:14 AM »
Factory GT-E engines were real deal side oiler blocks.  Everything else about them was early 428CJ ;-).

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 1968 427 Cougar block date range question
« on: December 03, 2022, 07:39:24 AM »
Royce Peterson is our resident expert on GT-E Cougars.  Hopefully he will see this this.  If not I am connected to him on Facebook.

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FE Technical Forum / 2022 FER&R pics
« on: September 16, 2022, 09:03:45 PM »
Here are some pics that I took last weekend at the FER&R if anyone is interested.  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zxdn2rqhq1z70mz/AADof16oazZarhp9-B9t0uWZa?dl=0

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FE Technical Forum / PSE air cup valve "spring" system?
« on: August 06, 2022, 07:34:03 PM »
Well now this is interesting I have never heard of this.  Anyone here try this out back in the day?

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Because Ford never had any intention of making the 428SCJ engine a performance upgrade over the 428CJ.  It came into being strictly to improve durability and reduce the high number of warranty claims that they were seeing from low geared 428CJ 4 speed cars out in the field.  My friend friend Kerry jokingly says that Ford should have called it the "Warranty Pack" instead of the Drag Pack option. JMHO

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Bell Housing ID
« on: January 21, 2022, 01:41:45 AM »
Truck bell housings are 0.4" deeper than car bell housings.  Not 5/8" deeper as mentioned above. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Factory Forged 428 $ Crank?
« on: July 23, 2021, 02:44:24 AM »
What I find interesting is that every $ forged FE/FT crankshaft that I have ever looked at did not have that half moon cutout in the flange. 

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Gear Vendors
« on: May 31, 2021, 09:16:47 PM »
I am going to get a quote on a Gear Vendors OD unit for a my 69 mustang big in big out (AE2) toploader tomorrow.  With the current business situation I am nervous that some of these specialized companies might not be around much longer.  Detroit locker and custom headers next.  I want to get these parts before they are no longer available.  I might be paranoid but better safe than sorry right?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: .050 Over 428FE ?
« on: May 31, 2021, 08:59:33 PM »
My dad loves to tell the story about the Hot Rod magazine article that came out in '67 where they took a 352 block out to 428 bore size and ran it on the Utah salt flats.  He said the next year everyone showed up at the drag strip with fresh "428ci" engines LOL.  All of them way over bored 352/390's. Dad said that every single one of them steam cleaned the exhaust system due to split cylinder walls before the end of the season.  Not saying that it cannot be done if the core shift is minimal especially for a cruiser.  But as Ross mentioned you still have pretty thin cylinder walls and ring sealing will for sure be an issue.  I say don't be cheap and just pay the extra $$$ for the real deal and then rest easy.  JMHO.  http://www.mercurystuff.com/articles/352_skiddoo_hello_428.html   

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Gear Vendors
« on: May 29, 2021, 10:06:11 PM »
This is not the first time it has come up here or on other forums.  Yes, the 17" tail application has been a ghost listing for some years now.  At least 10 years that I'm aware of.  As you discovered, it is always resolved that you have to change out the output shaft to a shorty.  I guess they never really got around to casting up a new housing to make it work.

Business decision.  No return on investment for doing so.  There are a LOT of variations of the Ford toploader 4 speed transmission.  They targeted the most common variations for spending their tooling $$.  JMHO 

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Member Projects / Re: 361 Industrial Engine
« on: May 18, 2021, 12:10:00 AM »
John, I think your right!

I looked on the mustangtec site and I found a CJ block that looks a lot like my block. They call it a '70 CJ block but, I think it started life as a Industrial/Truck block, with the boss and threaded hole, for the truck oil pickup and the plug for the compressor oil return.

http://mustangtek.com/block/1970428CJBlock.html

It also has no casting number, heavy C scratch and a date code like mine.

Anyone want to take a stab at what a W 1 or I means?

Yep that block on MustangTek is for sure an FT block.  No one knows for sure but the most popular theory is that the "W1" and "E1" above the date code indicate which casting line the block was cast in.

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After looking more closely at my 4 digit number, I think I see that same 0 with the same 2 dots under it so it would be a '70. staring at the second digit, it looks like it might be a G so, Sept and then, maybe the 16th.

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Member Projects / Re: 361 Industrial Engine
« on: May 09, 2021, 03:34:48 AM »
I have seen several late D4TE blocks that were 4.130 with .150+ left on the thrust side.  The early A scratch blocks seem to be hit and miss for thickness. Many I saw were done at .040 over. I have only seen a couple A scratch blocks with web reinforcements,. The C scratch all seem to have them. Often you have no idea what you have until you get into them. It makes it hard to purchase for particular use without a sonic check anymore.

Kerry Wortman has documented some A scratch blocks that had the extra web reinforcements.  If I ever find one I am going to buy it just for talking purposes to show folks that they do exist. They seem to be pretty rare.

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Member Projects / Re: 361 Industrial Engine
« on: May 08, 2021, 09:21:08 PM »
If it's a DIF block engine when you pull the bellhousing and transmission off check behind the flywheel for a factory scratch mark on the rear bulkhead.  Very few FT blocks were cast with 428 water jacket cores but you might get lucky.  If there is no scratch mark it probably does not have thick cylinder walls unless it was cast in late '73 or early '74.  I used to search for FT engines/blocks back in the '90s and early '00s.  Of the several dozen that I looked at a grand total of 3 had scratch marks and 428 water jacket cores.  So they are not as common as a lot of guys claim.

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