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Too funny! Special cam stays open 10 times as long, more power!

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Yes sir, 68.5 fastback, 4 speed.

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Performance Summary:
      Cubic Inches:  457             Dyno brand: Stuska
      Power Adder:  N/A             Where dynoed:  Dale Meers Racing, Buffalo, KY
      Peak Horsepower:  528@5900
      Peak Torque:  555 @ 4000


Engine Specifications:
   Block brand, material, finished bore size, other notes:  1969 C scratch 428, 4.150 bore, CnC squared, aligned, torque plate honed
     
   Crankshaft brand, cast or forged, stroke, journal size: SCAT cast 4.25
     
   Connecting Rods brand, material, center to center distance, end sizes, bolts:  SCAT I-beam 6.700

   Piston brand, material (caster, hypereutectic or forged), dish/dome volume, static CR: Racetec, 14 cc dish, 10.03:1

   Main Bearings, Rod Bearings, Cam Bearings brand and size:  Clevite rod and main bearings, Durabond cam bearings

   Piston rings brand, size, other notes: Mahle 1mm/1mm/2mm standard tension

   Oil Pump, pickup, and drive:  Melling M57HV, Canton pickup, ARP drive

   Oil pan, windage tray, oil filter adapter:  Cobra aluminum repop, no tray, factory oil filter adapter

   Camshaft brand, type (hyd/solid, flat tappet or roller), lift and duration (adv and @.050"):  Custom Bullock's Power hydraulic roller, 237@.050 intake

   Lifters brand, type:  Morel standard travel

   Timing chain and timing cover: Cloyes 9-position roller, Roush alum timing cover

   Cylinder heads brand, material, port and chamber information:  C8OE-N CJ, Les Schmader ported, 3/8 unknown aftermarket undercut stem valve, 2.09 intake, 1.67exhaust, Viton seals, ID spring locators

   Valve springs: Crower 160/420
 
   Rocker arm brand, type (adjustable or non-adj), material, ratio:  Factory nonadjustable, 1.73

   Rocker shafts and stands, brand, material:  Harland Sharp shafts, Trick Flow studs, Precision Oil pump end stands

   Pushrods brand, type, length:  Custome Smith Brothers 5/16, 3/8 ball/ball non-oiling

   Valve covers, brand, type:   69 CJ aluminum

   Distributor brand, advance curve information:  Pertronix billet, 38 total

   Harmonic balancer brand:  Stock, restored

   Water pump brand, type (mechanical or electric):   Tuff Stuff aluminum- electric powered on dyno

   Intake manifold brand, material, porting information:  Blue Thunder CJ, with divider notch cut

   Carburetor(s) brand, type:  750 dyno carb, but engine will run a Terminator Stealth

   Exhaust manifolds or headers brand, type:  Dyno headers



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Performance Summary:
      Cubic Inches:  430           Dyno brand: Stuska
      Power Adder:  N/A             Where dynoed:  Dale Meers Racing, Buffalo, KY
      Peak Horsepower:  480@6000
      Peak Torque:  511 @ 3300


Engine Specifications:
   Block brand, material, finished bore size, other notes:  1968 C scratch 428, 4.150 bore, CnC squared, aligned, torque plate honed
     
   Crankshaft brand, cast or forged, stroke, journal size: Factory cast 3.98
     
   Connecting Rods brand, material, center to center distance, end sizes, bolts:  Molnar H beam 6.49

   Piston brand, material (caster, hypereutectic or forged), dish/dome volume, static CR: Racetec, 11 cc dish, 10.05:1

   Main Bearings, Rod Bearings, Cam Bearings brand and size:  Clevite rod and main bearings, Durabond cam bearings

   Piston rings brand, size, other notes: Mahle 1mm/1mm/2mm standard tension

   Oil Pump, pickup, and drive:  Melling M57B, factory pickup, ARP drive

   Oil pan, windage tray, oil filter adapter:  Factory 68 CJ, factory tray unmodified, factory oil filter adapter

   Camshaft brand, type (hyd/solid, flat tappet or roller), lift and duration (adv and @.050"):  Custom Bullock's Power hydraulic roller, 229@.050 intake

   Lifters brand, type:  Morel standard travel

   Timing chain and timing cover: Early Comp (supplied by owner), factory cover

   Cylinder heads brand, material, port and chamber information:  C8OE-N CJ, 11/32 SI valve, minor bowl blend, 2.19 intake, 1.70 exhaust, Viton seals, spring locator cups

   Valve springs: Trick Flow 160/390
 
   Rocker arm brand, type (adjustable or non-adj), material, ratio:  Precision oil pumps, 1.76, adjustable

   Rocker shafts and stands, brand, material:  Precision Oil Pumps

   Pushrods brand, type, length:  Trick Flow 8.600 oiling

   Valve covers, brand, type:   68 CJ/GT chrome

   Distributor brand, advance curve information:  Factory 68 CJ with Pertronix, 12 initial, 38 total

   Harmonic balancer brand:  Stock, restored

   Water pump brand, type (mechanical or electric):   Stock rebuilt 68 Ford  - electric powered on dyno

   Intake manifold brand, material, porting information:  Untouched and unported CJ C80E-9425-A

   Carburetor(s) brand, type:  Peak power made with 750 dyno carb, but w/in 5 HP with correct CJ 735

   Exhaust manifolds or headers brand, type:  Dyno headers



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I didn't even think of that when I asked Jay if I could hang my Cleveland results, sort of an obvious and fair option.  My email to him was actually, "where did the non-FE dyno page go? " But it never existed.  Not sure why I thought it did

It does exist:
FE Power Forums »FE Power Forums »Non-FE Discussion Forum
https://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?board=3.0

There is no dyno section there, period, and I contacted the forum owner directly before I posted.  If he would have said put it there, I would have put it there.  As much as I would like to push back, you get a little credit, that is a good idea.

Nobody is fighting you here, you seem to think that Jay saying it's OK beforehand wasn't enough, and you keep changing what you are upset about... I have no beef with any of this, but you can't argue what the forum owner says, it isn't my forum and it isn't yours....just let it go.

BTW - On edit - Go look at the forum you are trying to keep pure...3 Y-blocks, 1 Boss, and 3 MELs before our Clevelands showed up.  This isn't new

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I do think non-FE builds, dyno tests, information etc.. should be posted on the NON-FE discussion sub- forum.
Calling out members of the forum as trolls for suggesting this is crazy@!

I didn't even think of that when I asked Jay if I could hang my Cleveland results, sort of an obvious and fair option.  My email to him was actually, "where did the non-FE dyno page go? " But it never existed.  Not sure why I thought it did

We've had MELs and Y-blocks, seems like the complaint is about Brent not the Cleveland dyno.  Can't help with that, but I have seen behind the curtain with him many times and he bends over backwards to help people.  I am not an internet friend, basing my opinion on posts, I have pulled wrenches along side him and consider a trip to KY to be a highlight when I can make it.


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FE Technical Forum / A couple of FEs with actual weights
« on: May 01, 2024, 03:58:16 PM »
I thought you all may find this interesting

459 inch 428, BT intake, iron heads, SCAT crank and I-beams, Racetecs, hyd roller, Morels, alum water pump, no flywheel, no carb, engine stands bolted on, with 7.5 qts oil - 529 lbs
433 inch 428, CJ iron intake, iron heads, Ford Crank, Molnar rods, Racetecs, hyd roller, Morels, iron water pump, no flywheel, no carb, engine stands bolted on, 6 qts oil -582 lbs

Figured I'd weigh them for laughs..off to the pump!  Even a Ram 2500 HD has a little squat with these two big girls in the back!

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I am on Brent's side here, we all share a lot of information, and by sheer volume of builds he shares more. However, a chef doesn't readily give his recipe, but people still love to eat out. 

We all have some secrets that keep our builds slightly unique, we also benefit from some of the best customers in the world through these forums. So yes, it is a balance.  However, the guys attacking don't seem to be customers or even friendly to him, and not recent behavior either, the names come up again and again.  It seems to be a witch hunt...in fact the issue wasn't what cam was in the engine, it was a non-FE build being hung, which I did too a week ago or so, but shifted as it always seems to for Brent

I can only speak for what I see and if someone comes up with an issue, guys like Brent, and I like to think me, run to the sound of the guns to help. Failure to give exact cam choice in an otherwise incredibly detailed built sheet posted in the dyno session is odd. 


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Great build Brent. 


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They are a stout set of heads, fast intake port, raised exhaust port, very nice single plane intake.  Allowed for very little cam too and should be very easy to drive

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Valve seals
« on: April 16, 2024, 01:24:17 PM »
There are positively located seals that fit an FE guide, but they are pretty big and depend on valve spring choice and retainer to guide clearance.  US Seal sells by dimension, but here is an example from another source. 

https://alexsparts.com/3-8-x-625-660-viton-valve-seals-flex-body-type-fe-ford-universal-vss-407-set-of-sixteen/

I agree though, good guides first, then if doing a valve job anyway, put real guides in (consider a 11/32 valve), cut the locator pad off and run a real locator and a nice Viton .531 seal.

If the heads are nice, you could just pull them down and cut the existing guide, but sometimes you will have retainer to seal clearance

As far as which brand of seal, I really like Manley Viton, Brent turned me on to them many years ago.  They push on easier, hold tight and last well.  It's all I really use now

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Motorville Wholesale?
« on: April 12, 2024, 08:51:15 PM »
I do, good company

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Any play in the pinion? Does the yoke have cap locating tabs or need u-joint clips?

If the only thing changed is the center section, I'd be hard pressed to blame the driveshaft


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FE Technical Forum / Re: Need to quiet down our 484 FE...
« on: April 09, 2024, 12:28:56 PM »
You may be able to fit a small band clamp on the joints, the can be effective.

Also, ceramic coating can change the sound, and in theory build a little on the pipe, also not sure I'd call it a leak fix

Finally, the most quiet performance mufflers I have found are Jones Full Boar.  I run them on my 461 F100, they bark at full throttle but very quiet when driving easy, even with a full 3 inch exhaust

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 69 F250 Highboy 460 Engine Swap from FE
« on: April 02, 2024, 08:58:53 AM »
Contact landlproducts.com

They make a swap kit, it's not cheap at 2100 dollars, but comes with a lot of good stuff for a bolt in.

I used one many years ago on a 73, not a bump but it worked great


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