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Re: Help with Camshaft selection for a 482 Dual Quad EFI Power Brakes
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2018, 09:11:59 AM »
I'll second Ross' thoughts. 

My first response is that the engine really needs a hydraulic roller.  Running a solid roller cam on the street for an engine working well under 6000 rpm is a risk with really no reward, other than the sound.  Now, I will say that some guys make it work, and if you're not wanting to put 15-20k miles on the truck, you'll probably do fine.  However, for the long run, solid rollers just really aren't the correct choice. 

My second response is that switching to a hydraulic roller will require different lifters, as well as probably different length pushrods, depending on the lifters you have now.  That's a big chunk of change to shoot for, and I could understand the desire to keep with the parts that you have. 

My third response is that whoever spec'd that camshaft needs to go back to Camshaft 101.  I may give him the benefit of the doubt that not all necessary information was disclosed to him at the time of ordering, but something with 78° of overlap makes power brakes pretty much useless as you've found out, and can make tuning EFI stuff a little rougher.  As a matter of fact, most of the self-learning TBI units actually give you an overlap number to shoot for when ordering the camshaft.

I haven't thumbed through the catalog, but something around Ross' suggestion of 242/242 @ .050" with a 110 or 112 LSA would work really well.  You could even potentially match the lift so you can reuse valve springs. 

There are several lobes that would get you down to around 60-65° overlap, where you need to be. 
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2018, 09:20:26 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2018, 09:23:38 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2018, 09:41:53 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2018, 09:47:09 AM »
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Re: Help with Camshaft selection for a 482 Dual Quad EFI Power Brakes
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2018, 10:27:25 AM »
Can this combo make a honest 600 HP @ Flywheel and still live on the street?

What would Estimated HP/TQ be with so far suggested Hydraulic Roller Cam?

I am going to have to live with most all on this build with pretty much only a Cam/Lifter swap

The amount of time & $$ spent on building the 1 7/8 to 2" Step headers along with the custom Stainless exhaust are Items  I simply cannot change.

I now have more $$ in this truck than any 4 other builds.

The 482 simply got the Wrong Heart (Cam) its now effecting my heart rate . .

Ok, so that cam wasn't meant for that engine......that makes me have more faith in humanity. 

What are your exact plans for this truck?  Is its typical use going to be for long drives?  Is this going to be a daily driver?   

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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2018, 10:29:37 AM »
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He said I could maintain the same Valve Springs
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Re: Help with Camshaft selection for a 482 Dual Quad EFI Power Brakes
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2018, 10:40:52 AM »
With .634" lift, you could potentially coil bind your valve springs, if they are setup for a .580" lift camshaft.   Also, if your heads are setup for somewhere around the required spring pressures, the open pressure will be much higher with more lift.  Some hydraulic roller lifters are not setup to deal with a lot of spring pressure.

My goodness, I loathe cam tech lines. 

What are your goals for the truck in terms of driveability?  Are you aiming to make horsepower, or are you aiming for a long-distance daily driver?
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2018, 10:54:47 AM »
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Re: Help with Camshaft selection for a 482 Dual Quad EFI Power Brakes
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2018, 11:00:11 AM »
I'd almost be tempted to tell you to just jam another solid roller in there and save yourself some cost/concern.  If it's not a daily driver and all you want to do is cruise a hot rod around town, then maybe you should get another solid roller that will give you functional power brakes and a little more power.  You'd just be out the cost of the camshaft, instead of a cam, lifters, pushrods, etc. 

Just keep in mind that, depending on what brand/quality lifters you have, you will be looking at a lifter inspection interval. 
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2018, 11:01:03 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2018, 11:06:11 AM »
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Re: Help with Camshaft selection for a 482 Dual Quad EFI Power Brakes
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2018, 11:08:42 AM »
Math.
That 400mile trip “maybe” once a year, vs the 4mpg improvement.

Think I’d just up the timing as per Ross and roll with it. Reassess later.

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Re: Help with Camshaft selection for a 482 Dual Quad EFI Power Brakes
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2018, 11:15:48 AM »
I'd almost be tempted to tell you to just jam another solid roller in there and save yourself some cost/concern.  If it's not a daily driver and all you want to do is cruise a hot rod around town, then maybe you should get another solid roller that will give you functional power brakes and a little more power.  You'd just be out the cost of the camshaft, instead of a cam, lifters, pushrods, etc. 

Just keep in mind that, depending on what brand/quality lifters you have, you will be looking at a lifter inspection interval.

It will NOT be a daily driver. What would you recommend for another Solid Roller?  Cost right now really is a issue. Not to mention trying to lean over the fenders to work on it for hours on end.  Pretty sure the roller lifters came from Barry. Probably Comp, Crower or Crane. Better lifter 10yrs ago.

The biggest issue at this point is the lack of vacuum for your brakes?
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2018, 11:17:02 AM »
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