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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: jayb on March 21, 2019, 07:43:13 PM
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My luck at picking out a catchy name is probably not the greatest, so I'm open to any suggestions (well, almost any suggestions...). I kind of like the dinosaur parallel, and was thinking of calling them T-Rex heads; I have a great idea for a logo if I go that route, but "T-Rex" seems a little shopworn. Royce B, our resident MEL and Lincoln Y-block expert, wants me to call them the World Domination heads, but I think the only world they would dominate would be his LOL! (Sorry Royce, couldn't resist ;D ) I could probably just be boring and label them with FE Power and a part number, but I was hoping for something more creative. What say you guys?
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how about your initials plus a number like JB40 heads and the 40 could also stand for 400 cfms
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Dyno-SAR 400's. Not good. Just thinking and trying to stir the pot.
Just thinking
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I was thinking DynoSR 400's, but that could sound like Dyno "senior". LOL!
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I think Giganotosaurus is the largest predatory dinosaur found so far. Spinosaurus is huge, too. Both bigger than T-Rex. Sorry. I am a biologist.
paulie
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FElociraptor 400's? :)
Or just FElociraptors?
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how about part number JB40 or JB400 Fo-Mo-Go heads or jb40 whiplash heads
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Dinosaur Technology- DinoTech?
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P38 "Lightning" beat Kasse to using this.
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Or very simply, FE P400's?
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I like the JB40 suggestion
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P38 "Lightning" beat Kasse to using this.
Kaase already has P-38, P-51, and SR-71 cylinder heads. Pretty cool names.
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does the winner get a new set of your heads. lol
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Maybe go Naval airplane references? Kaase has the AAF thing tied up. Hellcat, Bearcat, Tigercat, Wildcat, Corsair? But not Buffalo. LOL! Just throwing things out there......
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How about something Nuke related? As in nuclear bombs.
DynoNuke 400's? Sorry. Like I said, just trying to stir the juices. :) Shutting up now.
paulie
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FE FI FEROCIOUS
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Hellcat
Umm, no. Just....no
I don't think anyone wants them compared to a Mopar ;)
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I know I said I would shut up...… :)
"Hurricanes" ? A reference to the airflow and also a WWII fighter aircraft.
edit: or Typhoons? Another airflow and airplane reference
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Hellcat
Umm, no. Just....no
I don't think anyone wants them compared to a Mopar ;)
Good point. Oopsy. :)
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Exterminator. As in exterminating vermin, like rats and mice.
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Maybe "Dragon FE", or "Super Dragon FE"
Kinda picks up on the dinosaur thing along with throwing in the myth.
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FE SUPERPOWER
FE WORLD SUPERPOWER
FEPOWER BIG GUNS
FEPOWER WMD'S (weapons of mess destruction)
Hot Heads
AVALANCH
JET STREAM
HEMI CHASER
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Bomb Squad. ( To disarm warheads)
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They could be brown anodized and called Mister Hanky heads and i'd still like them.
If you could bump the cfm up to 420 you would open up an endless stream of possibility .... Grateful Dead music plays as the TV commercial starts, smoke clears to show Cheech and Chong doing a massive burnout in a 66 F100.
Chong declares
"These heads are DOPE"
Sales at Jay's Head Shop go viral. Jay buys out Brodix and AFR to expand production capacity to 15,000 heads per month.
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Never have I seen a nerdier, cornier thread. ::)
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If you could bump the cfm up to 420 you would open up an endless stream of possibility .... Grateful Dead music plays as the TV commercial starts, smoke clears to show Cheech and Chong doing a massive burnout in a 66 F100.
But if they flow much more than 420 cfm, than what? You don't want to tie them to a cfm rating. If they respond to normal porting increases, then 10% is to be easily expected, and ~20% with a really good CNC program which would be super. If that happens, then they will become the EQUALIZER heads. Joe-JDC
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How about FErocious?
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FE WHOPPERS
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I came up with "Thunderhead".
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Never have I seen a nerdier, cornier thread. ::)
i will admit some of those names are pretty far out there,but i thought mine were ok
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FE WHOPPERS
Shouldn't you be watching something more educational? https://www.suburbanautogroup.com/trunk-monkey-videos/
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I came up with "Thunderhead".
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7ssYyYxo88laKkU0tW9j9A
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You guys are overlooking the simplest, most effective name. I would offer it up, but Jay is predisposed to reject anything I name, despite the intergalactic success of "Prison Break" strokers, because it would be more difficult for him to censor my posts and admonish me for being Politically Incorrect behind the scenes.
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Well, if you are referring to a "Thunderbolt" head, I've actually been saving that name for a specific version of this head, that is still in the planning stages. That does seem like the obvious choice, but I don't want to use that for this particular head...
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"Racer Brown"
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Well, if you are referring to a "Thunderbolt" head, I've actually been saving that name for a specific version of this head, that is still in the planning stages. That does seem like the obvious choice, but I don't want to use that for this particular head...
Who are you replying to?
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From Felony use some version of the verb "admonish"
Might just work
Richard
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"Racer Brown"
Racer Brown has been a Mopar entity for decades.
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Jay, why not just call these heads "Thunder" heads and save your name for the latter?
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If your high-zoot heads are going to be Thunderbolt, maybe these should be FE Lightning...
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From Felony use some version of the verb "admonish"
Might just work
Richard
I dunno, Richard. Shoe Polish just doesn't quite instill FEar in people.
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Knowlton's is already using Thunderheads. http://ktrestore.com/index.html
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Was there someone who was the original "founder" of the FE, the chief designer or someone recognized as the lead for the engine series? Maybe it would be a cool nod to whomever that would be, and also somewhat abstract which has its own coolness factor.
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How about "FE Eliminator" or just "Eliminator"?
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427 SHR....super high riser
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If they work as expected, they won't need a name, a model number will suffice.
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HS 400 Heads (Hotel Sierra) 400
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We have a Rat and Mouse poison in Sweden named COBRA RAX, dont know if thats
an international rat poison or just lokal to Sweden....
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Jay Head
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427 SHR....super high riser
That gets my vote.
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Jay my choice for your head name is----- JAYBIRDS or JAYBIRD1 or JAYBIRD
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SHR-super high riser" Yes, that is a good one.
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FEnix: The mythical bird that rose from the ashes. The bird analogy could be used in conjunction with Fords FE Bird insignia.
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Introducing FE POWER's brand new totally redesigned for modern performance Apollo Series Cylinder Heads , now available with stock improved style exhaust port or the new radical " To the Moon " exhaust port with flanges
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Max Wedge
Tower Ports
Cannon Ports
SK 1 Billion
XE Infinity +1
Turquoise
Brownian Motion heads
Hole in 8
EZ heads (bolt and go, fast)
Howitzer (to go with the Thunderbolt theme)
Mic drop heads
Trump heads
Thrust heads
T.H.E. FE heads (come up with what exactly THE stands for...)
Crabapple heads (small round tart)
Pinecone heads (large Brown round)
Lightfoot
Thunderblast
TNT
Volcanic
Ninth Planet, Tenth Planet, Pluto
Paranoid Delusion heads
make it official: Freaking Expensive heads
Criss Cross heads
Touche heads
Afterburner heads
Clear Flow heads
Dreamer heads
Mighty Miss
Kraken
Whirlpool
Vortex
Maelstorm
Mae West
Is "Shotgun" used 'officially', if not, Shotgun heads
Brown Port heads, Jay Ports, Brown Mambo heads
Anaconda
Groovy heads
Dogs of War
Untwisted
21st Century heads
Ramthruster
Trident
Blue Hole
Thordic
Blue Streak
Unvaccinated heads
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If they work as expected, they won't need a name, a model number will suffice.
This is 100%.
P51, that was just a number until it became synonymous of being badass warplane. Same with WD-40. Engineers aren't necessarily good marketers so creating a catch name didn't matter to them but inadvertently they became common household names based from performance. Guess I'm saying try say not to overthink it and take the fun out of it.
That said, I was part of a group trying to name a product few years ago, we went rounds and rounds even had a suggestion box plant wide. But we kept coming back to one of the original names, unfortunately we could not use it for unforeseen reasons. "Commander" Or for FElony "Kommander" lol
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427 SHR....super high riser
That gets my vote.
Simple and works. For the killer version, go XHR, for Extreme High Riser.
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FE Power Max
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Max Wedge...[drops acid]...Anaconda
I made a phone call on your behalf. The men in white coats will be at your place shortly. Also, Father Time wants his product back.
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Max Wedge...[drops acid]...Anaconda
I made a phone call on your behalf. The men in white coats will be at your place shortly. Also, Father Time wants his product back.
Just waking up after seeing Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen last night (75 and has trouble walking, but can still pound the keys). Sample song from the performance: Seeds and Stems.
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If they work as expected, they won't need a name, a model number will suffice.
This is 100%.
P51, that was just a number until it became synonymous of being badass warplane. Same with WD-40.
The WD-40 is a badass warplane? Damn, I need to get out of the house more often.
That said, I was part of a group trying to name a product few years ago, we went rounds and rounds even had a suggestion box plant wide. But we kept coming back to one of the original names, unfortunately we could not use it for unforeseen reasons. "Commander" Or for FElony "Kommander" lol
I like the acronym idea, as it can "reduce" an over-the-top name into daily normalcy. That's what my choice was last night, as the thread turned into a Jack Benny Geek-a-thon. I'm still butt-sore over Blair turning down "Ballistics" for his heads. A couple more years of therapy and I'll be back to normal, whatever that actually means in my case.
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FE Power Max
Sounds like something from Beijing. https://promaxxperformance.com/
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Well, keep the ideas coming. You don't want Jay to be discussing this with the citizens inhabiting his chicken coop, do you? Be kind of embarrassing if they come up with the winning name.
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RAPTORS
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Well, keep the ideas coming. You don't want Jay to be discussing this with the citizens inhabiting his chicken coop, do you? Be kind of embarrassing if they come up with the winning name.
Recall that it is set in stone; when Jay markets his own increased displacement lower end kit, it will be called Chicken Choker Stroker. Should these new castings be named Peckpeckpecker Stretcher Heads? Only the rooster knows for sure.
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Django Heads - "FE heads unchained"
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Thanks for all the ideas. Even FElony's :o I like Doug's idea for FEnix heads, with a bird logo. I'm going to have to work on that one. My friend the drunk monkey wanted me to call them FElix heads, as in Felix the Cat and his bag of tricks.
What a lot of you guys are saying is true though, to paraphrase Carroll Shelby and his thoughts on naming the GT-350, "If its a good car, the name won't matter. And if its not a good car, the name won't matter".
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Thanks for all the ideas. Even FElony's :o
I never posted my idea, but I'm glad you think of me anyway. ;D
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i still think JB40 heads is a good enough name let their performance speak for its self.it wouldn't matter if you called them DUDS if there good enough heads a catchy name wont mean squat.
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VelociRaptor FE
My father recommended this name, I like it
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I'm sure you're on it, but beyond the marketing aspects of a "common name," I think there's value in nostalgic part numbers. These are going to be exclusively in the hands of FE folks anyway, so something like C*JB-6090-* would mean a lot, especially as your designs evolve.
That said, I lean toward something like J482. There's your J, and if current trends hold, I bet a LOT of your potential customers are in the 4.25" club or wouldn't mind the association.
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Have to admit this is FElony inspired.
RFG’s
Figure it out. ;D
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Have to admit this is FElony inspired.
RFG’s
Figure it out. ;D
I don't think Jay wants his heads known as Really Frickin Gay. :P
Rat Fink Gonads? Gosh, I just can't get a handle on it. Anyone else?
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Have to admit this is FElony inspired.
RFG’s
Figure it out. ;D
Robustly Feminine Guys?
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Have to admit this is FElony inspired.
RFG’s
Figure it out. ;D
Robustly Feminine Guys?
Been hanging out in the Diesel Dyke Forum again, paulie?
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It's 2019, baby! :)
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RFG Random Ford Grenade? Gosh, this is so difficult. I feel like I'm back in juvi again.
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Real Fantastic Genius...No that's not it...Ready For Genocide...No, no, Oops I can't use that... Reincarnating Fords Growl.. Yea, that's it.
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Real Fantastic Genius...No that's not it...Ready For Genocide...No, no, Oops I can't use that... Reincarnating Fords Growl.. Yea, that's it.
I'd pick the second one, but I don't hold any shares of Purdue Pharma.
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Random Found Garbage :o
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Random Found Garbage :o
Trying to kiss up to Jay, huh?
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Random Found Garbage :o
Trying to kiss up to Jay, huh?
Just trying to be nice, ass always :D
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For me to post my idea, Jay would have to swear on a Holy Chicken Egg to use it beforehand, or suffer ridicule from the members of this forum for being a wussy, and have to endure another 20 years of corny chicken comments from yours truly.
How many of you think this should be so?
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That's what I thought, you don't have any ideas.
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That's what I thought, you don't have any ideas.
As if reverse psych could ever work on me. ::)
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Because someone seems to be fixated on chickens...
Killer Chickens:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254900/Revenge-chicken-Three-hens-cockerel-named-Dude-peck-fox-death-broken-coop.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254900/Revenge-chicken-Three-hens-cockerel-named-Dude-peck-fox-death-broken-coop.html)
Chicken sooo big its legs wouldn't support it, so it was given a wheelchair:
https://kfor.com/2019/03/19/ever-since-she-got-the-wheelchair-her-sparkles-back-luther-sanctuary-rehabbing-former-factory-farm-chickens/ (https://kfor.com/2019/03/19/ever-since-she-got-the-wheelchair-her-sparkles-back-luther-sanctuary-rehabbing-former-factory-farm-chickens/)
I think FPP named their parts, don't think Blue Thunder does. Edelbrock names its intakes but not their heads...
How about APEX for Jay's heads, as in Apex Predator? Or EPIC?
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Could always rip Buick off, stage one, stage two, stage three. That way you don't need to come up with a new name for every version. you would instantly know what you have or need.
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Because someone seems to be fixated on chickens...
Killer Chickens:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254900/Revenge-chicken-Three-hens-cockerel-named-Dude-peck-fox-death-broken-coop.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254900/Revenge-chicken-Three-hens-cockerel-named-Dude-peck-fox-death-broken-coop.html)
Chicken sooo big its legs wouldn't support it, so it was given a wheelchair:
https://kfor.com/2019/03/19/ever-since-she-got-the-wheelchair-her-sparkles-back-luther-sanctuary-rehabbing-former-factory-farm-chickens/ (https://kfor.com/2019/03/19/ever-since-she-got-the-wheelchair-her-sparkles-back-luther-sanctuary-rehabbing-former-factory-farm-chickens/)
I think FPP named their parts, don't think Blue Thunder does. Edelbrock names its intakes but not their heads...
How about APEX for Jay's heads, as in Apex Predator? Or EPIC?
You may or may not know that Jay actually does have a huge chicken coop wherein resides a bevy of collector-grade, matching numbers chickens. Can't recall eggzactly, but I've been making chicken jokes since about 2006. Of course, if Jay had bigger McNuggets, he could have a field day with my thing about FElines. ;)
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Model Number FE59.....LIX is 59 in Roman numerals.Or the Master Cylinder Head with the special Poindexter porting.
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High Ports... high riser on a tunnel port location. Too easy! Other versions could be High Port XL or High Port CNC or High Port 2 etc.
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Wow, that went waaay far afield.
And I’m the one that works in Hollyweird.
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I like Medium Riser High Port. Or MR HP, or Mister High Performance. LOL. Jay's MR HP is easy to differentiate from the rest.
FE-REX FE Raised exhaust ports, the street exhaust port is an attention getter. LOL
Joe-JDC
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I like Doug's FEnix and bird. I also like the aforementioned nostalgia numbering for the FE guys. A 6090-X incorporated with an FE power P/N would look cool if was cast by the exhaust ports. Maybe.
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FE-Rex?
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Just joking: but the FE is Ford-Edsel ---- Call them Edsel heads and the intakes Ford.
Might be however, have some patent/copyright issues.
Richard
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Definitely put the name between the center exhaust ports.
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OK, this thread is winding down so I'll throw my 2 pesos into it. Keeping with the idea of an over-the-top name made subtle on the retail front with an acronym is WMD. We all know what that means. No reason to actually spell it out if not wanted on a web page, but the message is clear.
If you wanted to get ginchy about it (and truly, who doesn't want to be ginchy?), you could assign two-letter hyphenated suffixes to each revision, the meanings of which would only be privvy to the members of this forum. Such as WMD-SA (Shock & Awe), WMD-FC (Final Countdown), WMD-TA (Total Annihilation), for example.
Yes, I know this is beyond vanilla, but that's how I roll. I suspect FEnix will be chosen. It's nice and Politically Correct.
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Actually, I was going to put the name on the ends of the heads, like an Edelbrock head. Any comments on that?
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Actually, I was going to put the name on the ends of the heads, like an Edelbrock head. Any comments on that?
I tried, at gunpoint, to get Barriferous to put "FElony" on his heads, either engraved as you say, or cast. He cheaped out. I could have lived on in infamy, but now I will die in obscurity.
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Actually, I was going to put the name on the ends of the heads, like an Edelbrock head. Any comments on that?
That's what made me think of it, how cool it would look to see the bird on the ends of the heads, then I thought about the FEnix and thought it fit the FE "folklore" of being a dead engine. But as Dr. Frankenstein said...."Eets ALIVE!" ;D
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Actually, I was going to put the name on the ends of the heads, like an Edelbrock head. Any comments on that?
That's what made me think of it, how cool it would look to see the bird on the ends of the heads, then I thought about the FEnix and thought it fit the FE "folklore" of being a dead engine. But as Dr. Frankenstein said...."Eets ALIVE!" ;D
I like the idea of an engraved bird, Doug, but I gotta ask, are you going to pony up for these parts and the associated hardware to support a 900 horsepower car?
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Hemi Joel always refers to Jay as professor.......Pro-FEssor Cylinder Heads.
Yes keeping with the FElix theme.
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FEstus.............for the rest of us.Lets all celebrate :-[
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Actually, I was going to put the name on the ends of the heads, like an Edelbrock head. Any comments on that?
Then it's all moot: FE Power
If you're looking for a graphic design then I guess a phoenix works, but remember that that bird was dead, D.E.D. before it rose from a flaming pyre. A mushroom cloud might better represent power.
I can see the khakis with polo and topsiders experts walking up to the open hood at a car show and knowledgably pointing to the "352" and then the engraved bird and postulating that it must be a Cobra Shelby 352 Ford because Caroll Shelby was a chicken farmer known for fast Fords whose symbol was a screaming chicken...and did you know that Pontiac hired him to work on their Firebird and Shelby snuck his screaming chicken on some of them too!
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RE, round exhaust
SE, stock exhaust
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FEnix: The mythical bird that rose from the ashes. The bird analogy could be used in conjunction with Fords FE Bird insignia.
means id have to buy a set of heads for my car :)
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Thanks for all the ideas. Even FElony's :o I like Doug's idea for FEnix heads, with a bird logo. I'm going to have to work on that one. My friend the drunk monkey wanted me to call them FElix heads, as in Felix the Cat and his bag of tricks.
What a lot of you guys are saying is true though, to paraphrase Carroll Shelby and his thoughts on naming the GT-350, "If its a good car, the name won't matter. And if its not a good car, the name won't matter".
good logo here
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Street Fighter- shock tower head
Race X- raised exhaust
FEXE001 or FESK001 part#'s
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you could put Fo-Mo-Go on the front.my uncle use to race fe engines on the dirt track.you had to run stock intakes so my uncle took a streetmaster and ground off the name and he used jb weld to form the word Fo-Mo-Co on it. then he painted the intake blue along with the rest of the engine.he never got caught,mainly because he was the only fe in the field.the chevy guys never noticed it.
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I really like FEnix!
There are some nice royalty-free Phoenix logo graphics on this page:
https://www.vectorstock.com/royalty-free-vector/phoenix-bird-abstract-logo-vector-4134247
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Carbon Footprint
Carbon FEetprint?
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i've got it how about FEqualizer heads
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Jay: what ever you use for a name just put XE or SK in front of it and then only FE people will know the significance.
FERoadster
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Minnesota is up north close to Canada so.... Canadian Cobra Jet heads... or has that been taken?
Then us Canucks will all be obliged to buy them to be patriotic.
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FEtus because it is almost born. :)
Seriously, FEnix is really good.
paulie
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So I figured as long as I was machining my other cylinder head this weekend, I might as well write up program to try out a couple of these names. I'm still partial to the T-Rex idea, and right now I'm thinking that my all out head with the raised and round exhaust port might get the T-Rex name, and the other head with the exhaust ports in the normal location might get the FEnix name. Still thinking about this. Anyway, here's one end of the head I just finished up with the T-Rex engraving. Sharp eyes will spot something in the dinosaur's mouth ;D
(http://fepower.net/Photos/Posts/TRex.jpg)
On the other end of the head I engraved the FEnix idea. For the FEnix bird I wanted to have some similarities to the 427 Bird we all know and love, but with the phoenix flair:
(http://fepower.net/Photos/Posts/FEnix.jpg)
Any comments welcome - Jay
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I think FEnix is better. T-Rex is something kids are into. So even though it is awesome it will always be associated with little kids. And short arm jokes.
JMO,
paulie
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FEnix. Cool. The Pontiac Firebird crowd is gonna love this. ::)
FEel FrEe to spit on my corpse if this has already been mentioned, but is there a target vehicle for the first test pieces? The '64?
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Latest thinking is that the T-Rex looked like a big chicken (some people might be happy about that,):
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwipu9qZzpvhAhWEy4MKHRLPAxEQzPwBegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2Fwhat-did-t-rex-look-like-a-new-exhibit-has-the-ultima-1833164920&psig=AOvVaw0KST4uUBmWNLTlVhNOJUuq&ust=1553545523243600 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwipu9qZzpvhAhWEy4MKHRLPAxEQzPwBegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2Fwhat-did-t-rex-look-like-a-new-exhibit-has-the-ultima-1833164920&psig=AOvVaw0KST4uUBmWNLTlVhNOJUuq&ust=1553545523243600)
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Sharp eyes will spot something in the dinosaur's mouth.
Even sharper minds will note that the slant on the ends of that logo is backwards. 8)
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Sharp eyes will spot something in the dinosaur's mouth.
Even sharper minds will note that the slant on the ends of that logo is backwards. 8)
Ha! Thanks for pointing that out. I'll confess I never pay much attention when I see that logo...
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Latest thinking is that the T-Rex looked like a big chicken (some people might be happy about that,):
So the gas pedal will become the squawker, and the brake will be the buck-buck-buck-aaaaaa pedal?
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Sharp eyes will spot something in the dinosaur's mouth.
Even sharper minds will note that the slant on the ends of that logo is backwards. 8)
Ha! Thanks for pointing that out. I'll confess I never pay much attention when I see that logo...
Do I get a free head/intake package as a reward?
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FEnix. Cool. The Pontiac Firebird crowd is gonna love this. ::)
FEel FrEe to spit on my corpse if this has already been mentioned, but is there a target vehicle for the first test pieces? The '64?
First target is the dyno. Second is my 68 Mustang fastback, with the IR intake combination, because I won't mind cutting the shock towers on that car to clear the exhaust. Not sure after that, but I have a twin turbo SOHC slated for the 64 Galaxie, and don't have any plans to change that.
Nice try on the free head/intake package ;)
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I think FEnix is better. T-Rex is something kids are into. So even though it is awesome it will always be associated with little kids. And short arm jokes.
JMO,
paulie
Well, we could use some youngsters in the FE crowd, couldn't we? ;D I like FEnix a lot too...
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FEnix. Cool. The Pontiac Firebird crowd is gonna love this. ::)
FEel FrEe to spit on my corpse if this has already been mentioned, but is there a target vehicle for the first test pieces? The '64?
First target is the dyno. Second is my 68 Mustang fastback, with the IR intake combination, because I won't mind cutting the shock towers on that car to clear the exhaust. Not sure after that, but I have a twin turbo SOHC slated for the 64 Galaxie, and don't have any plans to change that.
Nice try on the free head/intake package ;)
No free stuff. Might as well engrave the firechicken laying an egg on my corpse.
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Well, we could use some youngsters in the FE crowd, couldn't we? ;D I like FEnix a lot too...
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Don't worry about the youngsters, they go for the two letters that come a little farther into the alphabet.
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Extreme
JB
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i play disc golf when im not fooling with my fe stuff.each different disc have there own name like firebird,beast,orc,etc.teerex is one of my favorites.it was spelled teerex on the first run of discs,then something happened that they had to spell it t-rex from then on.i dont know much about what names can or cant be used
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The beak should be positioned to the birds right wing. Ancient Indian phoenix legends had that to the right was good luck, left bad luck. The US eagle faces to the right. The Pontiac Firebird was to the left - Poof, Pontiac is gone.
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I like the Fenix name too.. curious on cost for a set. my car is wanting a set.
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The "sinister" version of the eagle is out there...
(It's complicated!)
https://www.americanheraldry.org/heraldry-in-the-usa/official-heraldry-in-the-united-states/the-arms-of-the-united-states-of-america/myths-mistakes-and-misconceptions
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The beak should be positioned to the birds right wing. Ancient Indian phoenix legends had that to the right was good luck, left bad luck. The US eagle faces to the right. The Pontiac Firebird was to the left - Poof, Pontiac is gone.
That was a mighty long poof. ;D
Beak to the left
Beak to the right
Stand up sit down
Fight fight fight
What are we, living in caves? Instead of copying Ford's or Ponnywreck's birds, let give it the direct approach.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f9672c0682fed738415152bcbb7a1e86b2888475/c=242-0-1678-1080/local/-/media/2018/04/29/IAGroup/DesMoines/636606272385584181-Eagle3.jpg?width=540&height=405&fit=crop)
Donated image.
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Well Jay and Group, I'm a believer in the keep it simple approach, so here is my thought..... Al
Race Head= FE Horse Power
Street Head= FE Power
Nothing fancy. Nothing copied. Just a quick look and anyone will know what head it is. As we will also know who designed them!
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I like the simple approach as well while also giving credit where it is due.
JB Race
JB Steet
JB HP
Then you can add V (version) 1,2,.... as needed
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Nope! FE-X
Sounds good, modern and simple!
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All ready been put forward. I like FErocious FE heads.
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F.E. - REX
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All these "Rex" names...Rex means "King" in some dead foreign language. Why not just call it King, and use a crown as the graphic?
Round raised exhaust port version could be Queen (always more powerful ;D ), or Emperor, or ...
"FE" would just be redundant in the name since it already shows up as part of "FE Power".
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F.E. - REX
How about FE-Rx, "The cure for low horsepower". Or FEdex, "The power you needed today, in your hands tomorrow by 5".
All these "Rex" names...Rex means "King" in some dead foreign language. Why not just call it King, and use a crown as the graphic?
Round raised exhaust port version could be Queen (always more powerful
Too swishy and subservient. My "Weapons of Mass Destruction" has more testosterone, and will instill FEar in cruise-in wannabes.
Alumisaurus. "T-Rex on Weight Watchers". Gee, this is fun.
What about naming the Cross Ram?
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Coincidence that paleontologists are just announcing the largest T-Rex known to exist? HA!! ;)
https://www.foxnews.com/science/worlds-biggest-tyrannosaurus-rex-found-by-canadian-paleontologists
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Along the same lines of the Tunnelport, why not Chunnelport?
;D
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whatever you name them you could use jb400 for the part number and the big ones could be jb420s or whatever
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Just want to jump in here :D
How about FE-5 Tornado! you know.... um... like an F-5 tornado.... and engines being over sized air pumps?
Then a cool twister engraved on the heads .
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"It soun'ed lack a freight train!"
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I have been out of circulation for a few weeks, so I guess I will weigh in on this discussion.. Since my World Domination suggestion was kicked to the curb. Lol, my thoughts are that I would avoid trying too hard to come up with something clever. In my opinion it could come off as too much of an inside joke. In my way of thinking the name should reflect both an engineering and design flavor as well as clear connection to Jay Brown. My suggestion would be this.. I like the idea of a cast in designation between the exhaust port. If that is not workable then an engraving on the end of the head works for me. I would make them like this. A nice masculine script saying FE POWER.. drop the LLC. Unless there are legal reasons I think it just looks cleaner. To designate the two versions I would use TRX 400 and TRX 500. (Slight nod to dinosaur). Ok there it is. I am a nice fat target so take aim.
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I'll go with you, Royce. It'll be spoken of as "The Power Head".
A "JB-6090 with a suffix for the details will also be recognized by all in the Ford world.
KS
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JB-6090 KR
JB-6090 CJ
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I wouldn't be too careless using the CJ or KR designations as part of the name unless you have written permission from Ford. I'd hate to see you get crosswise of Ford in a copyright suit.
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I do see the last three suggestions as workable. Engraved firechickens or dinos look nifty in pictures, but in-car on an engine they might seem a tad cartoonish. I think "FE Power" alone, engraved, is good and professional. I think Ken's idea, further refined by Dumpling (who appears, thankfully, to be over his extended acid trip. Maybe), cast between the exhaust ports, to be classic and appropriate. A general date code under the valve cover to clarify production runs in the future might be a good thing.
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I wouldn't be too careless using the CJ or KR designations as part of the name unless you have written permission from Ford. I'd hate to see you get crosswise of Ford in a copyright suit.
I'm not sure Ford or anyone else can copyright initials, or Jay could not use FE Power.
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I wouldn't be too careless using the CJ or KR designations as part of the name unless you have written permission from Ford. I'd hate to see you get crosswise of Ford in a copyright suit.
I'm not sure Ford or anyone else can copyright initials, or Jay could not use FE Power.
You are probably right, but Ford never really marketed FE as much more than internal memorandum for the engine family while they pushed the CJ and KR designations for all they were worth.
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I remember a few years back when 'Obsolete Ford Parts' was forced to change the name of their company.
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I wouldn't be too careless using the CJ or KR designations as part of the name unless you have written permission from Ford. I'd hate to see you get crosswise of Ford in a copyright suit.
I'm not sure Ford or anyone else can copyright initials, or Jay could not use FE Power.
You are probably right, but Ford never really marketed FE as much more than internal memorandum for the engine family while they pushed the CJ and KR designations for all they were worth.
Yes, but if they even cared, they could claim FE as intellectual property or similar because of the enormous amount of times that engine is/has been referred to as such. Jay could always claim CJ and KR are the initials of his two favorite roosters, who work for him as machinists. What's Ford gonna do, subpoena the chickens into court to testify what the scratches on their birth certificates say?
I remember a few years back when 'Obsolete Ford Parts' was forced to change the name of their company.
Yes, one annoying Cali lawyer made a couple bucks from that. Not an initial, though.
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You could also put "FEnix" at one angle between the ports, and "6090-xx" on the other angle.
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You do realize the meaning of nix in German or Dutch means no or nothing. FE no?
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I’m going to hop on here and say that I like the Feonix, TRex and Velociraptor names, I also like Jays
CNC TRex logo..... but
Put me in the camp that thinks all of these are a bit gimmicky, again, I like them, but I think Jays efforts and the FE history is a bit above such things.
I am more a fan of the name being more alpha numerical, in line with previous heritage.
Something like HP400R for the Race version, HP could stand for “High Port” or “High performance”,
The 400 would be fluid, matching the intake CFM, imagine the CNC version hitting 427cfm.....
The R could be “Race”, or “Raised exhaust port”
Go ahead and keep the TRex or whatever dinosaur related drawing on the head, I like it. It can be the pet name for the head or it’s alias. Or offer it as an option to those who want the sleeper look.
As for making sure Jay Brown is prominent, put that in the casting mold, a big JB or JBrown cast into every head.
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You do realize the meaning of nix in German or Dutch means no or nothing. FE no?
I think if everybody avoids putting these heads into German or Dutch cars, we should all be safe.
...As for making sure Jay Brown is prominent, put that in the casting mold, a big JB or JBrown cast into every head.
So if I buy those heads, and tap on them with a mallet, will Jay get a headache? If I drive around hoodless with clear valve covers, will Jay's brain get sunburned? If I win a local race, will Jay know that by osmosis? Is there any way to shut my brain off that doesn't involve the word "caliber"?
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I really appreciate it. One thing I really don't want to do is to put my name or initials on these heads. Putting FE Power on them is going to be enough for me. I've been thinking more about the engraved pictures on the ends of the heads and I'm souring a little bit on that idea; maybe just some lettering would be better. And somewhere on the heads I'll put a part number to positively identify them.
I'm still considering what I should call them, haven't really made any decisions on that yet. On my intake adapters, I have a part numbering system which seems pretty clear to me, but people get confused with the numbers and I often have to clarify exactly what they want, because the part number they tell me isn't really what they're looking for based on the phone or email conversations. This is one reason why I wanted a name for the different versions of these heads, because I think that will make it clearer to a lot of people. Fortunately for me, I don't have to make any decisions on this right away...
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I think the name is right there ^ in the thread title...
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How about an oval going around the fe power?
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Put your name on them - FEB. FE Brown.
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How about an oval going around the fe power?
how about an oval going around Fo-Mo-Go.and you could use 1-2-3 etc.for different runs or styles
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"Need a name for the...."
I'll bet this is the last time that question gets asked..lol 11 pages and counting...
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"Need a name for the...."
I'll bet this is the last time that question gets asked..lol 11 pages and counting...
Yes, but if you disregard my peanut gallery excretions and cutting-edge chicken lifestyle commentary, it's only half as long.
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A friend of mine gave me a call and suggested the name "Dreadnought", harkening back to the early 1900s British battleships that made all the previous battleships obsolete. What do you guys think of that one?
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Too long a name, would require a small font to fit on the end of the head, nevermind fitting it between ports.
FE guys are mostly of a 'certain' age that makes reading small print a problem.
Plus, what would be the graphic? A sailing ship? A cannon?
Just call it BIG or BIGGER.
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A friend of mine gave me a call and suggested the name "Dreadnought", harkening back to the early 1900s British battleships that made all the previous battleships obsolete. What do you guys think of that one?
Too eclectic for most, and it's going to get a "dreadful" nickname. Cool boats, though.
Too long a name, would require a small font to fit on the end of the head, nevermind fitting it between ports.
FE guys are mostly of a 'certain' age that makes reading small print a problem.
Plus, what would be the graphic? A sailing ship? A cannon?
Just call it BIG or BIGGER.
That's it! Call them El Beeg Juan.
Oh God am I still in this thread. :(
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Too long a name, would require a small font to fit on the end of the head, nevermind fitting it between ports.
FE guys are mostly of a 'certain' age that makes reading small print a problem.
Plus, what would be the graphic? A sailing ship? A cannon?
Just call it BIG or BIGGER.
Got me thinking about Al Bundy and Big`Uns ;D
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Too long a name, would require a small font to fit on the end of the head, nevermind fitting it between ports.
FE guys are mostly of a 'certain' age that makes reading small print a problem.
Plus, what would be the graphic? A sailing ship? A cannon?
Just call it BIG or BIGGER.
Got me thinking about Al Bundy and Big`Uns ;D
Al Bundy Race Heads. "Let's Rock"
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Boss or Bossier would have copyright issues?
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Boss or Bossier would have copyright issues?
The issue is not that you are back on LSD again. It's that you are not sharing it with the rest of us.
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Jay, I know you are not yet pondering what custom paint you are going to shoot on your next project car. I thought I'd help, because I'm a caring kinda guy. Here's some suggestions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3CenN7d30Y
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A friend of mine gave me a call and suggested the name "Dreadnought", harkening back to the early 1900s British battleships that made all the previous battleships obsolete. What do you guys think of that one?
Not a fan. At the very least, it'd have to be something American military. These weren't designed or built overseas ???
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I like the JB40 suggestion
For what its worth I like this too. Could be extended to JB400.
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I like the JB40 suggestion
For what its worth I like this too. Could be extended to JB400.
i do too. and the bigger heads JB4?? How about, YETI,BIGFOOT, or SASQUATCH, or some type of hairy monster HEADS
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FE-lion and I hate cats.
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FE Power Max
I like that..
Humm, wonder why ?? LoL. ::)
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Why not just put your name on them?
Your reputation is stellar.
( maybe J ° B cast proud on either side of the head bolt between the center exhaust ports?)
It's traditional... Ardun, Edmonds, Offenhouser, Edelbrock, Winfield, Riley, Weiand, et al.
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Why not just put your name on them?
Your reputation is stellar.
( maybe J ° B cast proud on either side of the head bolt between the center exhaust ports?)
It's traditional... Ardun, Edmonds, Offenhouser, Edelbrock, Winfield, Riley, Weiand, et al.
This makes total sense.
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Jay , how about the AMF , or Fe power AMF. Stands for Adios MF ;D you guessed the rest lol!
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What about a Ford part number like C8JB?
Or there is always the Trojan Magnum Port...
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How about the Pavement Pounder or the Exterminator (getting rid of mice and rats)?
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FEnx.
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Hey, a new idea!
LS Eliminator!
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I still like the simple SHR, and XHR idea. Not a fan of the bird engraving on the ends. These are serious race parts, not a cartoon.
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It may not have been visible in the pictures I posted in the head thread, but the head already has C4AE 6090 F cast into it, which is the high riser casting number. Did that just for grins. But if Ford had continued their part numbering scheme from the sixties, next year we would be in the "J" decade. Imagine that! So, I was thinking about J0AE-6090-A, -B, -C, etc. as a part number cast into the heads.
I was thinking through a few other possibilities. I could name different versions after famous old drag strips, e.g. Lyons, Pomona, Indy or IRP, etc. Other suggestions from famous tracks back in the day would be welcome, because I don't have a great knowledge of those places. Another thought would be to name them after famous Ford FE racers. I like the idea of the Ohio George heads, and I'll bet George would go along with it, because when he saw my 3D printed head at the FE Reunion last year, he told me he wanted to invest LOL! Platt heads? Bonner heads? Richie heads?
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Not a fan of the bird engraving on the ends. These are serious race parts, not a cartoon.
(https://www.autopartsdb.net/assets/images/ProductImg/M/MB1876.JPG)
Lucky Mopar never made any serious race parts.....................LOL!!!
Sorry Joel...just had to do it......
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Not a fan of the bird engraving on the ends. These are serious race parts, not a cartoon.
(https://www.autopartsdb.net/assets/images/ProductImg/M/MB1876.JPG)
Lucky Mopar never made any serious race parts.....................LOL!!!
Sorry Joel...just had to do it......
LOL! Now that's funny ;D
As for the bird, I was thinking something more resembling the factory Ford bird. It's a cool looking logo, and I thought the FEnix fit the "dead dynosaur" part that goes with these engines, but rising from the ashes to whoop some ass...lol
I might skip the Bonner name, for the somewhat obvious reasons that would inevitably come from the jealous GM and Mopar crowd. :P NO disrespect meant to Phil, it's just the way people would be !!! But these are Jays heads, so it's his decision, and I'm done.
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SuperPort
FlowPort
MonsterPort
PortMasters
FEad
FEPort
Fedsil
FEind
FEHead
Dragon
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But if Ford had continued their part numbering scheme from the sixties, next year we would be in the "J" decade. Imagine that! So, I was thinking about J0AE-6090-A, -B, -C, etc. as a part number cast into the heads.
Jim Dove did this with his F5 heads.
If you do it, your first initial will make a "legit" appearance, and they will be known as "Jay" heads.
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SuperPort
FlowPort
MonsterPort
PortMasters
FEad
FEPort
Fedsil
FEind
FEHead
Dragon
Looks like Dumpling's dealer is expanding his turf. After seeing the suggestions in this thread, I don't ever wanna hear anybody whine about my posts ever again. I'm starting to feel sane, and that scares me.
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MegaSnake
FEviserater
MegaCobra
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
+1 on the J part numbering, I like this a lot.
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I think the brand is enough. FEPower, then identify a descriptor as required, assuming you are going to make one more version. In that case, the Ford numbering is cool.
Either way FEpower cylinder heads pretty much wraps it up. FEPower -A heads, -B heads, etc
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I still like the simple SHR, and XHR idea. Not a fan of the bird engraving on the ends. These are serious race parts, not a cartoon.
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
Hmmmm, I like that. Gotta think about that one...
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How about "FE Power Bar Heads" Or FE Power Bar Cyclinder Heads" And make a decal with the heads flexing its muscles. And now that I think of it, the heads are shaped like a power bar. Just spit-balling guys.
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
Hmmmm, I like that. Gotta think about that one...
looking at all the choices listed,i think i like this one as good as any so far
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
My new favorite
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more fun than Saturday Night Live or maybe Laugh In , because we talk old .
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
I like that too.
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I agree with Joe that’s a good idea you can even put it in the original location.
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Joe's idea has my vote..
Jay, your public demands your efforts be recognized, imprinted in aluminum..
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
Not easy enough to say, in my opinion. Doesn't roll off the tongue. Too long of a chain of numbers and letters. Just my opinion.
paulie
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I think the brand is enough. FEPower, then identify a descriptor as required, assuming you are going to make one more version. In that case, the Ford numbering is cool.
Either way FEpower cylinder heads pretty much wraps it up. FEPower -A heads, -B heads, etc
I like that. FEpower. It is the name of the website. It identifies where the part came from. Add a suffix to differentiate the different versions.
JMO,
paulie
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I like the FEpower also
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JBRE-6090-A, B, C, etc. Would give you credit as well as differentiate from the rest. After all, it is your head. Jay Brown Raised Exhaust-6090-A. Joe-JDC
Not easy enough to say, in my opinion. Doesn't roll off the tongue. Too long of a chain of numbers and letters. Just my opinion.
paulie
it rolls off the tongue as good as C80E 6090-n on the cj heads, and is the exact same amount of letters and numbers?he can put fe power on the front ends if he wants to.
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Got Jay's perfect saying to put on the heads.
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My vote is KISS, FE Power and a simple code.
Why muddle it up with Ford part #'ing scheme?
It's not like it needs to be factory looking and no need for anything more than simple identifier and revision maybe. Everything else is over complicating, every digit ads risk in terms of getting a digit wrong on web sites, orders, advertisements, etc..
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Got Jay's perfect saying to put on the heads.
Hey, you're the one wearing the shirt, not me LOL! Save that name for YOUR heads.
Along those same lines, the drunk monkey suggested the FEces heads, because they are the sh*t ;D
This thread is now officially getting stupid...
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the drunken monkey & FElony related?
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This thread is now officially getting stupid...
Only now?
Just call it Head, or The Head...
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the drunken monkey & FElony related?
There is only ONE Drunk Monkey. Everything else is just a cheap imposter. (And being cheaper then the DM, is not a easy task.)
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I like FEpower.
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My vote is KISS
Yeah! Could call the wacky exhaust version "Destroyer" and the stock exhaust ports ones "Beth"
Get Gene Simmons to do the TV commercials....
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Head of the Class
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I move we take this up at Beaver Springs. Maybe a suggestion box, hmmm?
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I still think JBRE-6090-R for race exhaust port, and JBRE-6090-S for street exhaust port would be an awesome part numbering system. R-1, R-2, S-1, S-2 etc. for updated or modifications. Joe-JDC
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This thread is now officially getting stupid...
Yeah! Could call the wacky exhaust version "Destroyer" and the stock exhaust ports ones "Beth"
Get Gene Simmons to do the TV commercials....
Since it's official now....yeah, get Gene to stick his tongue down the ports to show how free flowing they are ;D ;D
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Since the drunk monkey has kicked down the door of good taste how about this..
There is a good natured but serious rivalry between Hemi Joel and his MoPar crowd and Professor Brown. So how about the Hemi head vs the FEmi head.
Hemi Joel vs FEmi Jay
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whatever the name ends up being i would love to have a new Jay Brown top end on one of my FEs
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Since the drunk monkey has kicked down the door of good taste how about this..
There is a good natured but serious rivalry between Hemi Joel and his MoPar crowd and Professor Brown. So how about the Hemi head vs the FEmi head.
Hemi Joel vs FEmi Jay
FEmi...? ...With pastel Unicorns and glitter? PRO-FEthor Cylinder Heads? Your cheese
head is showing.
Perhaps a FEd Gein Cylinder Head for you folks in Wisconsin.They consume the
competition
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FEmi heads spokespeople ...
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You could have that for the Drag version. No need for TV commercials, the heads would be talked about and shown on Ellen.
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You could have that for the Drag version. No need for TV commercials, the heads would be talked about and shown on Ellen.
FE--male Heads."Because you want a pair"
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he could call them-THE BEST ONES.and when somebody asks Jay for a good set of heads he can say- heres the best ones.
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I’m going to throw in “FEral”. Us country boys are familiar with this term. Might fit!
Bones
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Since I can't bring myself in good conscious to re-read this thread- has "Ironman" heads been suggested yet?
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Since I can't bring myself in good conscious to re-read this thread- has "Ironman" heads been suggested yet?
But they're.... ALUMINUM...
Plus may be trademark issue.
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But they're.... ALUMINUM...
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Yeah tracking that. It was just a reference to the Periodic table.
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I vote for JB Horsepower Heads
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How about Old Glory
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Since I can't bring myself in good conscious to re-read this thread- has "Ironman" heads been suggested yet?
But they're.... ALUMINUM...
Plus may be trademark issue.
I don't believe Ozzy cares.DubyaTF...You should reread the thread.Your
namesake begs it. :)
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How about calling them "BANGERS" in relationship to the rock'n roll term, "head-bangers"....
"Brown Bangers" ?
Still think'n....
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How about Max Flow, with a JBRE-6090-R, or JBRE-6090-S for raised exhaust port or street port. Joe-JDC
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Interceptor
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There's no reason this absurd thread should die off. Up for serious consideration is a name that fits perfectly, considering it's Jay Brown we are talking about here. The title of this music video, which was filmed on location at Jay's farm back in the 80's, is something I would think everyone here would want to see on these new offerings. Get with it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGf-h8Q4-M
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BTBW - Born To Be Wild!
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FE-HI-FLO
I know not very imaginative, but easy to say and to the point.
JMO,
paulie
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Flow Max?
Wait, that's taken...
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Flow Max?
Wait, that's taken...
My urologist prescribes that for me. So no.
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If we want a Ford number how about H9JE-A and -B
The H9 for 2019, J should be obvious, E for engine...
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Flow Max?
Wait, that's taken...
LMAO!! You guys are too much ;D ;D
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Flow Max?
Wait, that's taken...
My urologist prescribes that for me. So no.
Do you take that alongside a Rooster Booster, or are they mutually exclusive?
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FEnology heads.
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Flow Max?
Wait, that's taken...
My urologist prescribes that for me. So no.
Do you take that alongside a Rooster Booster, or are they mutually exclusive?
Laugh it up, youngster!
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FEnology heads.
A careful study of the lumps and bumps in or on the ports?
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It's a school of higher velocity...
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Perhaps keep the "FE Power" an add a numeral or alphabet according to the port/ports or such
Have a list on ya site that lists what they require
Ricky.
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They’re already known as FE Power heads.
Just keep that name.
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FElociraptor 400's? :)
Or just FElociraptors?
clever!
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Real Fantastic Genius...No that's not it...Ready For Genocide...No, no, Oops I can't use that... Reincarnating Fords Growl.. Yea, that's it.
I'd pick the second one, but I don't hold any shares of Purdue Pharma.
The Singularity...coming soon, to a nation state near you...;D ;D
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FE FI FO FUM? ;D
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I sent this to Jay a few weeks back for the canted valve run of heads.
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Why will this thread not die? :'(
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FE Ver1
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I sent this to Jay a few weeks back for the canted valve run of heads.
;D ;D