FE Power Forums
FE Power Forums => Non-FE Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Heo on September 22, 2023, 04:10:33 AM
-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRInlRfARwk
-
Amazing...that someone would spend huge money, time and effort for a one-off engine redesign only to cage a trophy (no $) and bragging rights! Geez, a turbo on any modern engine would surpass this old flathead design for sure.
-
It's not about who has the most,........... it's about who has the most fun! 8)
Scott.
-
Bob, if it has to be explained to you, then you don't get it at all. As for "no money", don't you root for Jay every time he's been at Drag Week? No money involved there either, only bragging rights, and I would bet that he has WAY more invested than that flathead, and a turbo small block could easily outrun him.
It's amazing what they did with that flathead. When you see how the pushrod set-ups are for that Ardun OHV, it's even more amazing.
-
Money is only a tool to make it possible to accomplish whatever you set out to do. For years I've only done land speed racing. I'm out to improve on what I did on the last run. It took several weekends of improvement before I held the record. And holding the record(I still do) makes it possible for me to have my name in the list and enables me to buy a T-shirt that says, "World Record Holder." Satisfaction comes from having figured out how to do it. (Now I'm on to another class.)
KS
-
I have pics from i think -85 when my father was at Hersey, holding a Ardun set that was for sale
for 2000 $. Expensive then...cheap now. As they say, you never pay to much for old Ford parts
you just buy it to early
-
Bob, if it has to be explained to you, then you don't get it at all. As for "no money", don't you root for Jay every time he's been at Drag Week? No money involved there either, only bragging rights, and I would bet that he has WAY more invested than that flathead, and a turbo small block could easily outrun him.
It's amazing what they did with that flathead. When you see how the pushrod set-ups are for that Ardun OHV, it's even more amazing.
Well CJ, I guess if I have to explain it to you, you don't get at all what Jay is doing. Reviving and adding to the long history of the FE Ford engine! Jay has also made and sold a lot of FE parts over the years and the best is yet to come. Still don't get it? Tell me then how many one-off flathead engines, let alone parts, that fellow will sell. Think it's likely ZERO! It's still a free country so he can do what he likes. And I can express my opinion here as well, thanks to Jay.
-
Good grief, who pissed in your Wheaties? The only response to that is to just walk away.
-
Good grief, who pissed in your Wheaties? The only response to that is to just walk away.
I could say the same "...you don't get it at all." Opinions here are rarely replied to in this fashion.
-
There are still shops that regularly build old flat head engines with performance in mind. I recently saw one that made nearly 400 hp which is very respectable for a flat head. I saw another one that made 180 hp. Both looked nearly the same. I was trying to figure out just how much of that 722 hp was engine alone, and if I am close to correct, then it makes 485-500hp NA. That within itself is an accomplishment. Joe-JDC
-
That build boggles my mind. Huge accomplishment of the near impossible.
That crank riding on three mains making that power... Wow! But it isnt that far astray from some of the extreme outer limit FE builds I have seen.
Amazing...that someone would spend huge money, time and effort for a one-off engine redesign only to cage a trophy (no $) and bragging rights! Geez, a turbo on any modern engine would surpass this old flathead design for sure.
I think the point is that he wants the Flathead record, not just any speed record.
If that thing stays together, he may own the record for all time.
-
Cool np mather what it for.
-
👍
-
Well i'm certainly not in the "why bother" category. I am impressed and think that's a great achievement. Pretty sure the majority of us would not take the easy way out or we wouldn't have FE's. A Coyote with a blower or a damned LS could make better power.
-
I had a 51 Ford PU with a V8 Flattie when I was living in Dry Gulch in the 70's.
It had duel carbs, but it was not that fast.
I bought it for $150 and sold it for $180 to the same guy I bought it from.
I should have kept that truck, they sell for way more now. ;D
-
The old Flathead is still quite popular, perhaps actually having become more so in the past decade or so; this as the Hot-Rod crowd is in many camps moving away from the old 350/350 standby, looking for something more dynamic to park under the hood. ;)
And along those lines we currently are working on a Ford 337 (big-boy) Flathead which will blown for his application. 8)
Scott.
-
I was so impressed when somebody crossed the 400hp line with the Y block years ago. This is incredable.
-
Though it is true, that at some point, particularly with the "old stuff", one has to realize that to make it go faster............you just drive downhill! ::)
Scott.
-
Well, I don't know about going down hill, but I have a 292/375Y Block that has made 613.3hp/546lbft, and I hope there is a bit more in it before I quit with the testing. My little 292/303Y made 463hp after the 2019 EMC, so there is still hope for those of us who still like working on these antique engines including the FE. Joe-JDC
-
Joe, have you ever flowed an Ardun head?
-
Well, I don't know about going down hill,............... so there is still hope for those of us who still like working on these antique engines including the FE. .
Maybe (?) you misunderstood my perspective in my statement, but to clarify, I'm definitely one of those whom enjoy working on the "old-stuff", including the challenge of proving to doubters that some of the antiquated examples can be made surprisingly capable today.
But, there is also the fact that in being realistic, one is generally going to have to work a wee bit harder on the "old-stuff", and the limits will often be found sooner, this as compared to much of the more modern engineering examples. Don't you agree? :)
Scott.
-
My Dad was a welder for the Navy in WWII and worked on nuclear submarines in the ’60s and into the mid ‘70s. He once told me that metallurgy changed a lot during WWII and changed a lot more in the late ’60 and early ‘70s. Machine tools that were calibrated in thousandths became calibrated in 10 thousandths. Straight 8 engines would sag in the middle if not supported properly; the cast iron blocks were that weak. Small changes in the metals made machining with great accuracy possible. They could measure in ten thousandths but the metals couldn’t be worked reliably from batch to batch. He said the quality of the metals was so much better when he retired than when it was when he started.