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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: Posi67 on January 10, 2024, 10:27:13 PM
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Is there such a thing as "good quality" out there or are they mostly offshore junk. I'm going to need a set of covers with breathers in them since I don't want a Vac pump or PCV. They used to be posted all over the place but I suspect the crap quality caught up to the suppliers. Any suggestions appreciated.
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I have had one of those off shore sets on my 445 race motor for about 5 years. Zero problems with them once I opened up the bolt holes from 1/4" to 5/16". Moroso makes a really nice set for about 500 bucks. Billet fab will make you a nice set for about that same price.
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Gotta watch, because some of them are short and/or won't fit a decent rocker arm. Some of them kinda look like a SBF valve cover the way they're shaped and they don't fit well.
The Moroso ones are expensive, but they are nicely made and will cover pretty much anything.
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I have the Moroso ones on my personal engine. They work and fit well.
I purchased a set of the offshore ones and ended up sending them back.
They don't even fit the box they ship them in...
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I have a set that came with some other stuff, I can see how they fit on a head
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I imagine the cheap ones are hit and miss. I have talked with guys that say they fit fine and no leaks. I bought a set and the flange was like a rocking chair from end to end. The Moroso's look nice, but they put the angle on the top on the wrong side (in my opinion), doesn't leave much if any room in a shock tower car. Since you won't notch your shock towers Dale, I don't think the Moroso's would work for you. If you guys think some of these valve covers don't fit over rockers very well, you should try high riser heads and long T&D race rockers... and see how much worse it gets. The change in the valve cover rail angle, on a high riser, really messes with inside clearance, on the pushrod side. I probably have 10 sets of valve covers and only one set will clear on my high riser heads. I had to take a BFH to it and grind ovals in the bolt holes and move it toward the intake manifold and it still barely clears...
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When I got Mine I didn't get the cheap $80 set. The ones I got were e bay specials and listed as 'tall' .they were like $140 about 5 or 6 years ago. I have had them on and off many times with no issues and they fit over my monstrosity of a rocker arm assembly just fine. Maybe I got lucky for once.
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Nice lookin' engine.
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Thanks for the input. I'm not keen on the look of the Moroso's and add in the issues XR7 mentioned means I'll keep looking. I'm not opposed to the sand cast ones either but they are hard to come by. I should have bought a set off Jay when I had the chance. I keep hoping the Canadian $$ will improve and ease the financial pain but that doesn't appear like it will happen before I die.
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Did you want the sheet metal look? or just want a plan no logos cast type set that will fit roller rockers?
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FWIW, some years ago I found a set of what had originated as 'Cobra LeMans' cast covers at a swap meet. They had been milled to remove the fins and lettering. I used them on an engine on which I'd mounted a set of the Dove HD rockers. They used special headbolts to help mount the end stands. I had to re-do the baffles inside that cover the breather holes, but it was a simple fab job to do so. In addition, I usd a rotary file on the inside of the castings where witness marks showed slight interference with the end stands. With that amount of effort over most of an hour, I had a set of blank rocker covers that looked just fine and sealed well too.
KS
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FWIW, some years ago I found a set of what had originated as 'Cobra LeMans' cast covers at a swap meet. They had been milled to remove the fins and lettering. I used them on an engine on which I'd mounted a set of the Dove HD rockers. They used special headbolts to help mount the end stands. I had to re-do the baffles inside that cover the breather holes, but it was a simple fab job to do so. In addition, I usd a rotary file on the inside of the castings where witness marks showed slight interference with the end stands. With that amount of effort over most of an hour, I had a set of blank rocker covers that looked just fine and sealed well too.
KS
sounds like what I found in some ones collection of old parts I think mine started out as MT covers they have never had baffles and the rectangle breathers are made by some one back in the 60's or early 70s could even be before the 60's and have long since closed. I had to make new breather tops as I can't find a good enough chrome plater to fix the pot metal pitting yet but they fit T&D race rockers .700 lift fine and I think are period correct looking they don't push oil out the breathers.
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I've cut the fins off the top. Weiand tall's.
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I don't mind them at all they have a unique look.
crappy photo but only one I could find of mine
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Did you want the sheet metal look? or just want a plan no logos cast type set that will fit roller rockers?
Just want a plain no logo look that will clear a fairly big Cam and T&D rockers. The Sheet Metal came to mind as possibly a reasonable cost option however that's no in question. I do have a set of decent M/T's and like the look but the breathers would likely be a fitment issue. I could also use my current M/T's since they already have breathers and i can only run one engine at a time.
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I don't mind them at all they have a unique look.
crappy photo but only one I could find of mine
Darn .. sold a set of those for $125.00, still had the fins though, they were in great shape
Ricky.
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I don't mind them at all they have a unique look.
crappy photo but only one I could find of mine
Darn .. sold a set of those for $125.00, still had the fins though, they were in great shape
Ricky.
The more I look at Tunnelwedge's the more I like them you could even get something like anodized blue black or gold could look nice but the raw looks great too.
Posi67 have you thought about just running lines and a puke tank? I will say those old MT covers are made out of junk metal I had to weld a small crack inside of mine and it was not fun.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/115537703414
These Pent Roofs are a somewhat affordable option. Lots of valve train clearance but you sacrifice clearance getting to the spark plugs.
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I like the looks of this eBay set.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256367746102?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D258818%26meid%3Dc762d6bba79446b1971c8c1a0a15c45d%26pid%3D101875%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D115537703414%26itm%3D256367746102%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D4429486%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuWithLambda85KnnRecallV1V2V4ItemNrtInQueryAndCassiniVisualRankerAndBertRecallWithVMEV3CPCAuto&_trksid=p4429486.c101875.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A256367746102c762d6bba79446b1971c8c1a0a15c45d%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAABUObhgc4Nk8%252BdtAwOww4FKLaj%252FQ5qqgDlQCuqZA43WcPFUWDERCUugbbOk7XQv0JXlBfqCg2xKF3WcPghxGMFw2oSlXvfExEaMYr7I7LmrHcP6czY1wIMt0ORyKiCWt95xldincyyBx3g%252BNDW%252B%252FhWUgTaBhK6xAm%252BJIbCOMehu%252BdwVsM1Msr7EOmCB9iH5ir3h5AcVygpRyNMI6DApVI1PpPcom7hVTzQqWU3dkr86V7GBgUpYAEPIMs8UrEblpDG6a9bYcNMWdy8K5mTUupTYbWs4NwHKB7wHeRekspP%252FQc%252Fiz19UluuETqwUkDMQKGor4lO3QStgdGaqw6XqkUMBo8HQT0veXaQTa80OxyXLTjSxTJYnJOUa9EufkGm3mO7pVeR7N1tYYT8Ftc9Squfcy8ZxkK8kmLLJlG1EyX9CX9lxjrTcdpwuY4sOE1%252Fod%252BfwA%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A4429486
Kinda a hybrid fab/cast look. I don't like the looks of the baffle. You can probably dump oil through it but would probably suck oil with pan evacs.
Jays covers work well with pan evacs but it takes several weeks to dump 9qts in :) The road draft cover is where oil has to go in actually.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pq4yv2rP/B626-D838-634-D-4043-A488-0-F2741760-AF4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkXMWGm2)
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Take a look at the welds around the mounting insets. Gonna be a treat getting a fastener to snug down square against that...
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I really like my new set of Blue Thunders, not cheap but they look great and I like the threaded holes for the billet accessories they sell. They're making me a matching air cleaner as well.
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I will say those old MT covers are made out of junk metal I had to weld a small crack inside of mine and it was not fun.
The ones that came black crinkle are made with pot metal and the polished ones were pure aluminum and weldable.
I ruined a few cut up ones making mine before I realized that.
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I will say those old MT covers are made out of junk metal I had to weld a small crack inside of mine and it was not fun.
The ones that came black crinkle are made with pot metal and the polished ones were pure aluminum and weldable.
I ruined a few cut up ones making mine before I realized that.
I did not know that Tom not sure if mine are pot metal ones but they polished up good and hold the polish could of just been the years of oil and gunk inside the crack