Speedmaster 427 block

[BH107]

Any of our pros hear of a new Speedmaster 427 block that is almost a dead ringer for a BBM? Pictures got posted on FB earlier today and are now gone, but supposedly the price is $2400. Didn’t see the Speedmaster that was supposedly cast on the block but there were visual differences from BBM… is a $1600 discount worth the risk of a Speedmaster block?

[MeanGene]

Didn't show on the Speedmaster site

[blykins]

Any of our pros hear of a new Speedmaster 427 block that is almost a dead ringer for a BBM? Pictures got posted on FB earlier today and are now gone, but supposedly the price is $2400. Didn’t see the Speedmaster that was supposedly cast on the block but there were visual differences from BBM… is a $1600 discount worth the risk of a Speedmaster block?

No, it's not. 

I would consider the BBM block to be one of the pinnacles of aftermarket FE blocks. 

I would consider Speedmaster to be one of the lowest quality brands in all of aftermarket engine parts.  Not only does the quality stink, but the morals/ethics also stink.  They have made a living of copying good, high-quality, name-brand stuff, such as CHI, MSD, Comp Cams, Edelbrock, etc. 

[MeanGene]

Methinks someone was jerking chains with that FB post

[BH107]

I don’t know, the pictures were blurry but there were definitely small differences from any other aftermarket block I have seen. Guess time will tell.

[67xr7cat]

Do you have the pictures? Post 'em up.  Maybe can id what it is.

[thatdarncat]

Do you have the pictures? Post 'em up.  Maybe can id what it is.

I should have taken a screenshot, but didn’t. There were I think 3 pictures, each somewhat blurry, enough that you couldn’t see details. Original poster seemed to be evading answering questions. The post then disappeared.

[67xr7cat]

Do you have the pictures? Post 'em up.  Maybe can id what it is.

I should have taken a screenshot, but didn’t. There were I think 3 pictures, each somewhat blurry, enough that you couldn’t see details. Original poster seemed to be evading answering questions. The post then disappeared.

Sounds like the mafia got to him...

[e philpott]

Hey Brent , this is from Speedmaster , seems like they’re from Australia and make their own parts

Speedmaster has become a leader in its field, built on a long term consistency of being a specialist in aftermarket automotive components. The team has shared all the finest moments in the numerous accolades for its people, its products, and its approach. Speedmaster is also one of the rare companies to produce its own products, where majority items are entirely developed and manufactured in its workshops. The ultimate token of precision, Speedmaster is the world’s only major parts manufacturer to equip cars from Standard replacement to Top Fuel Dragsters.

In 1979, the company was founded with Pete’s Performance, which was a small speed workshop. It began by building engines for customers as a hobby, and it has now grown to include selling, assembling, manufacturing and racing high performance engine parts. Over the years, the company has grown into a worldwide high performance powerhouse. Growing from a one-man bricks-and-mortar business; to now a supply chain in which en

They apparently build cars too
https://www.speedmaster79.com/Speedmaster-Blackhabu-Ford-65-Cobra-Roadster-Complete-Automobile

Aluminum 351 block
https://www.speedmaster79.com/Ford-351W-Windsor-B-4.000-M-2.749-DH-9.500-Billet-Main-Aluminum-Engine-Block

[67xr7cat]

Speedmaster used to be known as Procomp.  Wonder why they changed their name....

[e philpott]

Don’t think they’re the same company, that Stevens guy copied Edelbrock. Who in their right mind would copy Edelbrock nowadays?

[67xr7cat]

Don’t think they’re the same company, that Stevens guy copied Edelbrock. Who in their right mind would copy Edelbrock nowadays?

Take a look at the part number on that 351 block you linked. Is MPN: PCE286.1049 you know what the PCE stands for? Pro Comp Electronics. About 10 -15 years ago Procomp started selling the heads, blocks, cranks, etc... under the Speedmaster name and sold the distributors and other electronics under the Pro comp electronics name. Looks like they pretty much have stopped selling anything under the Procomp name as I see now the dizzys are Speedmaster too.  Anyway believe what you want.

[blykins]

Hey Brent , this is from Speedmaster , seems like they’re from Australia and make their own parts

Speedmaster has become a leader in its field, built on a long term consistency of being a specialist in aftermarket automotive components. The team has shared all the finest moments in the numerous accolades for its people, its products, and its approach. Speedmaster is also one of the rare companies to produce its own products, where majority items are entirely developed and manufactured in its workshops. The ultimate token of precision, Speedmaster is the world’s only major parts manufacturer to equip cars from Standard replacement to Top Fuel Dragsters.

In 1979, the company was founded with Pete’s Performance, which was a small speed workshop. It began by building engines for customers as a hobby, and it has now grown to include selling, assembling, manufacturing and racing high performance engine parts. Over the years, the company has grown into a worldwide high performance powerhouse. Growing from a one-man bricks-and-mortar business; to now a supply chain in which en

They apparently build cars too
https://www.speedmaster79.com/Speedmaster-Blackhabu-Ford-65-Cobra-Roadster-Complete-Automobile

Aluminum 351 block
https://www.speedmaster79.com/Ford-351W-Windsor-B-4.000-M-2.749-DH-9.500-Billet-Main-Aluminum-Engine-Block

They may have some tie to Australia and I think they may even have an office in CA, but their parts are all made in China.   Speedmaster = Procomp.

As for Stevens copying Edelbrock, he did it a long time ago when Edelbrock was more mainstream for FE stuff.  I think Barry confirmed that ProMaxx has that design now. 

[TomP]

They can make a good egg roll or wonton soup, so why not an FE block, eh? 

[e philpott]

They make a good phones and computer's too . Shame procomp is chinese , those 2995.00 aluminum blocks would be tempting if you was building a windsor

[ant123]

I think most performance parts nowadays  are coming from China/India or somewhere else not USA. The major brands are not advertising this of course, but something to keep in mind.

[Falcon67]

Which is not necessarily bad, having seen the issues over the years with the people trying to build a better 351C block and having hell getting domestic entities to cast blocks.  Larger companies can afford to have QA representation at the site of manufacture, which I have read as being a key thing to help ensure they get the quality level they ordered and paid for.  Mostly I think it's raw castings that can be machined here.  When ocean freight was cheap, bet you could buy a container or two of engine blocks and have them shipped here cheap.  Then throw the castings in the CNC to finish.  Any defects, toss it in the recycle pile.  With shipping costs and delays now, maybe not so much. 

[hwoods]

we brought container over from Asia up until July this year @ about $2400 per container, now that cost is about $17,000-$19,000 per container.


Have you seen Tim MaAmis's youtube video on buying parts made in China?

[fekbmax]

Bet the recording device he used was made in China 

[Blueoval77]

I dont have a dog in this fight and dont endorse one block over any other really , I feel that they do that all on their own and whatever is decent gets talked about here and there by the people that rely on the reputation they have built.. This says quite a bit all on its own..
With that said.
I have ABSOLUTELY no doubt whatsoever that if these were sold people would be buying them up like there is no tomorrow . I mean take a look at all the other crap thats being peddled from China that people simply cannot wait to purchase. What I will say as an American and an enthusiast is that the conversations I see should be far different than they are. Americans should be angry , not getting in line . Manufacturing has left our country because of Americans standing in that line to buy garbage . Its like they simply cannot get enough of it !!! Each of the people in these lines is making it harder and harder for an American made product to come to market thats "affordable"

Lastly , its your damn block people !! I guess if you outfit the thing with all of the other fine offerings from Chicken wings Inc and dont have a bunch of cash in this rather large pile of junk . You wont mind so much when it turns into smaller pieces of junk when you ask it do to something. But if you have spent some cash on a good crank and good machine work and all of the other odds and ends that make up one of these old girls . You will be seriously offended by what the CCP has done to your life , your wallet , and anything else that got in the way when it comes apart.. Then we see these same folks on forums complaining about how the side of cylinder heads they got with their beef Lo mien have been nothing but trouble and they need help figuring out their life choices....

Im sorry but damn people.... With everything else going to hell in a hand basket I wouldnt be getting in line to get products from a country that cannot stand us  , steals on a non stop basis and would love to impose its views and way of life here on our soil.

[pbf777]

............... look at all the other crap that's being peddled from China that people simply cannot wait to purchase.

Americans should be angry , not getting in line . Manufacturing has left our country because of Americans standing in that line to buy garbage . Its like they simply cannot get enough of it !!! Each of the people in these lines is making it harder and harder for an American made product to come to market that's "affordable"

Im sorry but damn people.... With everything else going to hell in a hand basket I wouldnt be getting in line to get products from a country that cannot stand us  , steals on a non stop basis and would love to impose its views and way of life here on our soil.

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[475fetoploader]

we brought container over from Asia up until July this year @ about $2400 per container, now that cost is about $17,000-$19,000 per container.


Have you seen Tim MaAmis's youtube video on buying parts made in China?

Not to mention when they hit the dock, at least on the west coast there’s a rail car shortage, a container chassis shortage, so you get to wait free you pay 500% more for shipping.