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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2013, 05:10:46 PM »
It's a 2bbl 360.
Runs like velvet but zero (qualified) grunt.
Was trying to keep the drivability but have my cake and eat it too thus the mild top end.
Actually quite surprised at the hp numbers.
Can't wait to see the difference.
I have a complete new drive train to install.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2013, 05:12:45 PM by turbohunter »
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'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2013, 08:21:47 PM »
Those are great results, Mark, they will make a HUGE difference in that truck.  Thanks also for the rocker pics.  I'm a big fan of steel rockers, when they are available, because they don't have the limited life that aluminum rockers will typically have.  They are heavier, of course, but in an application like yours weight isn't really a concern, so they are probably a really good choice, especially after replacing the adjusters.

Tell us more about the dyno experience.  What surprised you, what didn't, etc.  How much tuning did you do on the engine?  Timing, carb, or ??
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2013, 08:51:02 PM »
Those are great results, Mark, they will make a HUGE difference in that truck.  Thanks also for the rocker pics.  I'm a big fan of steel rockers, when they are available, because they don't have the limited life that aluminum rockers will typically have.  They are heavier, of course, but in an application like yours weight isn't really a concern, so they are probably a really good choice, especially after replacing the adjusters.

Tell us more about the dyno experience.  What surprised you, what didn't, etc.  How much tuning did you do on the engine?  Timing, carb, or ??
Thanks so much Jay.
I had one of the most fun days of my adult life. I loved it. Even the pre dyno pull stuff of fitting the engine and making things work.
Solving problems was great fun.
What surprised me was the hp numbers (high of 411). I seriously was not shooting for a big horsepower number and thought we'd come in from 350 to 375 because of the stock D2s, low cr and mild cam. I think that the ending combination of good parts and solid assembly (for instance back cutting the valves) made the difference. I think also that that cam though mild is well thought out.
I WAS shooting for torque. The dyno we were on only spat out numbers from 3100 up and I would've loved to see the 2500 numbers. That's probably where it made most of its torque.
Was very pleased that it held it's numbers throughout the pull pretty well.
We started it up on an 830 Holley shop carb because it was a known factor. It made the most hp but not as much torque.
I figured I was going to run a 650 on the street but I have a 700. We installed the 700 and everything was pretty much as before but hp was down a little and torque was up. But very slightly on both accounts. Didn't even bother with the 650.
As far as timing we knew the basics and started there 12 initial and 33 to start with in by about 25 or 2600. Light springs in the MSD from the beginning. We went to 36 but it didn't seem to need it or want it and we ended up a hair over 34 total.
It just kept repeating the same numbers and acted great the whole time.
We could have tuned a bit more but it was late and we collectively were very happy with it.
Now I understand why you have a dyno. It is a blast, I'm hooked.
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2013, 11:37:27 PM »
It's a 2bbl 360.
Runs like velvet but zero (qualified) grunt.
Was trying to keep the drivability but have my cake and eat it too thus the mild top end.
Actually quite surprised at the hp numbers.
Can't wait to see the difference.
I have a complete new drive train to install.

I went from a healthy 390 to a 445 and it was night and day.  You are going to be tickled pink.  Great work, when's the swap?
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- 70 Fastback Mustang, 489 cid FE, Victor, SEFI, Erson SFT cam, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11 9 inch.
- 71 F100 shortbed 4x4, 461 cid FE, headers, Victor Pro-flo EFI, Comp Custom HFT cam, 3.50 9 inch

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« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2013, 12:29:22 AM »
Got two weeks over xmas if I can sched the time with family and wife.
Wall to wall till then.
Marc
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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2013, 09:11:04 PM »
The eagle has landed.


« Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 04:43:38 PM by turbohunter »
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« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2013, 10:35:20 PM »
Lookin' good, Mark... 8)
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2013, 10:46:48 PM »
That's one small step for man.....one GIANT leap for your truck!  :)

That will most definitely add some "grunt" to it! Looks really good too! Just an observation, but I believe those MSD Blaster coils are oil filled and designed to be kept vertical for proper cooling. At least that's what they recommend.
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'70 F-350 390
'55 Ford Customline 2dr
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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2013, 10:49:54 PM »
Awesome, can't wait to hear the results!
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Bullock's Power Service, LLC
- 70 Fastback Mustang, 489 cid FE, Victor, SEFI, Erson SFT cam, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11 9 inch.
- 71 F100 shortbed 4x4, 461 cid FE, headers, Victor Pro-flo EFI, Comp Custom HFT cam, 3.50 9 inch

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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2013, 09:50:10 PM »
I believe those MSD Blaster coils are oil filled and designed to be kept vertical for proper cooling. At least that's what they recommend.

Thanks for bringing that up.
I had that in my head to check and forgot about it. I'll check it out.
Marc
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'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2014, 10:25:31 PM »
Thought I would update you guys so you don't think I've been goofing off. :)
Lotsa little details before start up but I'm almost there.
I replaced the entire drive train at the same time so I'm detailed to death.
It's coming along nicely though.
I'll make noise soon.

« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 09:55:55 AM by turbohunter »
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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2014, 07:31:48 AM »
Looks (and I'll bet sounds) great Marc 8). Compare those engine shots with your first one at the beginning of the thread.  You stated that you replaced the entire drivetrain, what trans did you end up going with?
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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2014, 08:48:38 AM »
what trans did you end up going with?

As you know getting over drive trannys to mate with an FE is quite involved so I stayed with the NP 435 but had to find a four wheel version with a different tail shaft that would mate with an NP205 transfer case.
Original set up was a 435 mated to a Dana 21 which is a light duty transfer case and only one range. The NP 205 is much stronger and has a high and low range. I also double sticked the t case so that I have a high and low 2 wheel as well as high and low four wheel drive. I will also put a Gearvenders overdrive in line for the highway. Gearvenders only will mate to an NP 205 also. They don't make a Dana 21 unit. So The upshot is that I will have a huge amount of gears to choose from and with the torque from the new engine it will chug along nicely in overdrive as well as crawl slowly if the need arises.
Marc
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Re: Intro and current project
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2014, 04:10:12 PM »
Well thought out and a gear for every occasion-  I believe that's the same stuff I had behind the 390 in my '74 F250 (less the G/V OD of course.), all plenty stout pieces.
Len Zielinski
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'69 F100 300 stick

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« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2014, 09:59:41 AM »
a gear for every occasion-  I believe that's the same stuff I had behind the 390 in my '74 F250 (less the G/V OD of course.), all plenty stout pieces.
Exactly.
I just want it to hang together forever. ;)
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon