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FE Technical Forum / Re: 2 intake gaskets 1 side
« on: November 16, 2014, 08:01:08 PM »
After reading everyone's ideas, there is one fact that we sometimes overlook about sealers.  Ross mentioned contact cement, and that is exactly what it needs to be to hold the gasket in place.  The gasket is supposed to do the sealing, not the cement/glue.  The material used in the gasket should be the medium that prevents leaks, not a sealant that is added, even though they do prevent leaks when used properly.  I have done head and intake changes on dyno tests where we used the same gaskets multiple times without re-glueing, or adding rtv.  The gasket material was the sealant.  If the gasket doesn't break down, and is flat, it will seal.  We actually glued the gasket to the heads, and then using white grease on the gasket, installed and removed several intake manifolds without a leak, either of water or vacuum.  Holding the gasket in place is important if it is to last long term, and contact cement is actually better than rtv for that purpose.  I have had one CJ with a Print-O-Seal gasket hold for 20+ years, but that is the exception.  It is all in preparation, and chemicals used to seal it up.  Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Start line ratio .
« on: November 09, 2014, 04:30:39 PM »
There are lots of desktop calculators for that, just have to google it.  I found that I could figure it out using algebra, once I knew the rollout on a tire, or given rpm limit of an engine, you can work backwards to figure out what is needed.  Tire height is not always a good indicator, but rollout cirumference in inches will give you exact numbers to work with---until the tire grows at rpm--as in slicks.  Joe-JDC.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: My 431 stroker Build and Dyno
« on: November 09, 2014, 03:15:36 PM »
How does anyone think they can control the parameters with that air box tubing fitted like that?  That within itself is a give away to the quality of the data.  JMO, but no dice.  Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Start line ratio .
« on: November 09, 2014, 03:12:55 PM »
Roll-out of tire, or circumference of tire always affects final drive ratio.  It therefore affects gear multiplication in every gear.  You will find that you have to start somewhere, and take a particular tire size that fits your vehicle, then change gear ratio in differential to make the most of that combination.  I used a 10.5x29x15 on my '69 Mach I, and with a JPT C-4, I found that my 452MR would cross the line at 7200 with 4.57:1 gears.  If I wanted more rpm, I would go to 4.88:1. You usually have to pick a size and then try it to see how it works.  Go to the track and check out what everyone else is using, and you will save yourself some trial and error.  Engine RPM(stroke/cam/valve springs/carburetion), horsepower, torque, vehicle weight, aerodynamics, all play a part in gear selection.  Just don't select a gear that maxes your rpm out at the 1000ft mark when you still have 320ft more to go.  Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Block Filler
« on: November 06, 2014, 01:56:27 PM »
Even the 4.6 guys and LSI streeters I have seen come no where near 2000 street HP, sure if you run alcohol and a huge nitrous kit you could produce that much power but what kind of drivetrain are you going to use? And I hardly consider alcohol and nitrous oxide street fuel, at least at any gas station I go to. To say you have 2000 streetable HP is more like saying I have a drag car with license plates. As I said 4 HP per cubic inch would seem a little far fetched on a old school V8 on the street running gasoline, yes top fuel cars produce 8000 HP but that does not mean a street driven car made in 1964 can produce 2000 and run on pump gas. It would seem I keep being taken out of context as I do not dispute engines can produce 4 or more HP per cubic inch but it would be at the cost of crossing the line between a street driven car to a strictly race vehicle. This has been my argument with the logic at hand all along, not the maximum potential of any engine as that is not even a relevant subject here. No one here is building ultra modern fast and furious cars running four turbos and talking about it, this site is for a certain engine series built by Ford and that is what I am making reference to. Can a SOHC produce more than 1200 HP? Sure it can, on the street with 91 octane? Doubt it.

Your whole argument hinges on 91 octane.  No other engine, regardless of make can make the claimed horsepower you mention with 91 octane, either.  They all have octane boosters of some sort, whether alcohol, methanol, C-12,-16, VP, etc.. A FE can be as competitive as any engine within the same parameters.   The shortcoming of any FE is the head flow available, but there are some out there now that will make the power, and intakes are available to complement the heads.  All it takes is money.  Joe-JDC

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Private Classifieds / Still looking for 427 Low Riser 8V intake
« on: November 03, 2014, 11:42:27 PM »
I am still trying to find a decent LR 8V intake with/without linkage or air cleaner.  Carbs not needed since it will not be for a restoration, simply a street engine.  I have linkage and several air cleaner tops, etc.  Joe-JDC

Wanted still:  LR 8V intake for project engine, not for restoration purposes.  Will be ported, so something that has already been massaged but salvageable, would work.  Thanks, again.  Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Land Speed Project
« on: November 03, 2014, 09:11:22 PM »
Factory Five was offering a copy of that body at one time, I don't know if it is still available.  It would be much cheaper to start with than the real thing, or an aluminum body.  I guess I should check before I posted, but they were supposed to be more aerodynamic.  That would also give a bigger engine bay with the Fox mustang style platform.

 The Daytona Coupe is in the kit section.    Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: My 431 stroker Build and Dyno
« on: November 01, 2014, 05:14:17 PM »
Weather, inside temperature, outside air source temperature, water temperature at start of pull, oil temperature at start of pull, oil level in pan, bsf reading, total air flow consumed, temperature of exhaust, all things to look at to see if the numbers look legitimate.  Rate of acceleration, time to climb, and timing all affect the outcome.  Just an educated guess, but gaining that much horsepower and torque from 4* timing change seems unlikely.  Joe-JDC.

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Member Projects / Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« on: October 31, 2014, 05:18:46 PM »
Kooks headers have tubes that are over 2" diameter for Fords.  They say that they will make headers, but I am not sure of SOHCs.  Could call them and ask.  Joe-JDC.

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Member Projects / Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« on: October 31, 2014, 02:38:11 PM »
Not trying to confuse anyone, but if you leave your distributor timed this way, you will be WAAY off in timing.  The spark will jump to the terminal from the rotor as soon as it gets within its power range to overcome the distance.  To start you should have the balancer timing pointer at approximately 10-12* BTDC after you determined TDC on #1 by backing the piston down to the timing mark, then install the distributor with the rotor just before which ever terminal you choose for #1.  The tip of the rotor should be just coming into range of the terminal so that the engine will be timed and ready to start without having to move the distributor around after trying to turn it over with the starter.  The spark will jump the distance to the terminal as it moves in the arc and continue to spark the full sweep of that single terminal, and stop when the rotor moves too far for the spark to cross the gap, then on to the next spark wire terminal, etc.  The current in modern caps lasts longer because of the rotor having a wide rotor tip with an arc to get the most time for a complete burn in each cylinder.  All this happens very quickly, but I have tried to simplify it so you can understand the sequence.  Hope this helps start-up timing.  The light method works well, also if you have a light to connect to the points or module.  Joe-JDC.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: HEAD BOLTS RESTRICTING OIL TO HEADS
« on: October 28, 2014, 09:30:06 AM »
I would check the block/head dowels for proper engagement.  If the dowel is shoved up into the head, then it will move around under compression.  That is a possibility.  Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Going rate for a 390
« on: October 22, 2014, 03:37:35 PM »
FT engines required the distributor bushing.  Not regular 360/390s. Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Going rate for a 390
« on: October 22, 2014, 10:41:36 AM »
Check the San Antonio Craig's list on Ford engines.  There is a 390/c-6 combo for $600.00  I would check it out, but they don't want to part the transmission from the engine.  Has Streetmaster intake.  Joe-JDC

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Block Filler
« on: October 20, 2014, 04:03:35 PM »
I would think you will be dooming the block to not being able to replace any sleeves in the future by pouring in a block sealer.  If you have new sleeves, then you will only be able to bore them until they are used up.  Then the block will be a display item.  Is that your plan?  Joe-JDC




















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Thanks, I thought he was banning me.  I didn't think I had said anything offensive, just taking up for the SBF on a sbf site.  Joe-JDC

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