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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: May 23, 2018, 06:53:02 PM »
I used the 48 inch wide straight axle from Speedway, with Chevy spindles in kit, hub to hub is 56 1/2 inches. With Ford spindles, 48 inch axle, hub to hub is 56 1/4 inch.

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: May 23, 2018, 04:42:23 PM »
I'd have to measure the car to get hub to hub. Just measure your track width you have now. I went a little wider on track width just for looks. Be advised the front wheels you plan to use may affect track width depending on back space of the wheels. Also, the gasser axle kit from Speedway has the same 9 inch discs whether you use Chevy or Ford spindles. You could order brakes separate and they may work a deal in exchange for the smaller brake/rotors included with the kit.
Good Luck

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: May 08, 2018, 01:45:12 PM »
Straight axle install pretty much per Speedway instructions, except with shackle in front rather than back. I also reinforced stock frame rails with 3/16 plate. So far axle holding up well but no hard core wheelies. I would go with ford spindles rather than Chevy as disc brakes for the Ford are much larger. I went with Chevy because the spindles were slightly larger than the early Ford offered, big mistake, Chevy spindle has 9 inch rotors, and now I'm having trouble holding the car.

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 29, 2018, 04:21:34 PM »
FINALLY got some rainless weekend weather here in central Mississippi. Took the Ranchero to a small local track east of here for test and tune Friday nite. Ist runs with the new FE Power intake adapter and Yates 351C intake. I also phased the MSD distributor (adjustable rotor)and added one step colder NGK spark plugs. Other than these three changes the engine is exactly as before.
Prior to these runs Friday nite, the best time I had ever run was a 6.80, and a 6.85 and that was in the evening on a well prepped track back in early March.  The other runs in March were all 695s averaging 1.55/1.60 60 ft.
The First run Friday nite was a 6.83, 1.49 60 ft, 100.34 mph, 2nd, 6.81, 1.499, 100.57, 3rd was 6.86, 1.47, 99.15 (with a 200 lb passenger), last was 6.797, 1.486, 100.78.
The miss I had from the last outing where I over revved the car is gone. I suspect it was a combination of sparkplugs, crappy MSD cap, and rev limiter set to low (Thanks Blair)

The track wasn't prepped at all and got so wet later I put the car on the trailer. I'm very happy with the improved times and believe that the car is capable of more. I'm still learning how to drive the car and seem to be making small improvements with regards to consistency.

I was concerned about the 60 ft times with the single plane intake but got my best 60 ft times ever. The car just felt different. I  want to thank Jay for his help. I'm very happy with the intake and adapter and the excellent service I received.
I just ran the valves in preparation for next weeks race and they were all good, along with the rockers and pushrods. I guess I'm ready and very excited.

If I could just get in the 6.60s, Id be happy and quit buying race parts......

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 13, 2018, 03:35:47 PM »
Thanks Doug, its nice to hear from someone with first hand experience on a workable C6 trans brake. As you noted, I'm not sure I'm ready for a trans brake but after your post, I checked and Merkel seems to be the guy.

Looks like tomorrow is another weekend washout in Mississippi, so not able to test...again...maybe next weekend. I replaced the MSD cap and rotor and I think I can actually tell a difference just buzzing the engine to 5500, so I think the cap and plugs were the miss issue all along. When ever I can run again, Ill post the times with the new intake and adapter.


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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 10, 2018, 08:13:12 AM »
The 57 wagon on Jegs catalog is a way cool gasser. The name seems to fit the car, although it certainly doesn't look junky. I'm still searching for the right name. I guess Ill know it when I discover it...Ive never named a car, just called it what it is, like the "coupe" and the "ranchero".

I hope the nice weather holds thru the weekend, I want to test the ranchero, if possible, see if my "miss" is gone, and check the intake/adapter upgrade.

Thanks again to everyone for all the comments and advice.


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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 09, 2018, 01:55:47 PM »
I like the vinyl magnetic sticker idea. I'm not big on product endorsement because I'm not gonna get any contingency cash, but what a good idea for a name on side of car. I guess these car wrap vinyl sticker guys would be able to create a larger magnetic stick on, like your "Rory McNeil" sticker on the side.

Regarding the use of a C4, I considered that, but with the adapter and the trans it would have been way more than a C6, and since I'm just basically turning race gas into noise, it just wasn't the best financial decision.  I have heard the C6 really robs HP and I really don't have any to waste, but I think the engine is in the 450 to 500 range and Im very happy with how it performs.

Thanks again for your comments

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 08, 2018, 08:14:29 PM »
BTW Rory, I opened/enlarged the pic of the Fairmont and all I can say is DAMN....looks pretty dang competitive to me, awesome pic..

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 08, 2018, 08:10:06 PM »
Thank you Rory, the slow release issue is what I read about, and I figured since hardly anyone was racing a C6 anymore, no one was actively involved in developing C6 trans upgrades. I'm certainly not at that level, just racing for fun. Ill have to reread your post a dozen times to grasp exactly what you said. I'm certainly a novice at this and there is a limit on funds, so everything needs to count. I make bad decisions as it is, that's why I enjoy this forum so much, guys like you are free with good advice based on experience.  I, like you, will not run a GM trans in my Ford, maybe a C4, but not a glide, hard headed ole man I guess.

OK, I'm gonna start the first reread of your post...I'm sure Ill have lots more questions.....Thank you

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 08, 2018, 03:22:33 PM »
No trans brake...seems all the C6 trans brakes I read about were not reliable, but I don't know how reliable the posts/forum may have been either. If I go to a 5K convertor Ill have to do more research...

I like "Dirty Bird", a lot, but at this point I just cant pull the trigger on lettering, although I suspect I'm delaying the inevitable. Its becoming less and less a street car.  LOL

Still running the 306 S and OEM rockers no less. Seems every time I check valve lash there's another rocker nut that won't hold lash. I only have one NOS rocker left so will be looking for some more. I did buy the OS nuts but unless the rocker is really worn I cant start the nuts. I have the OS nuts on two rockers now and they are working well. I log which rockers have been replaced and Ive replaced 7 rockers with new NOS so far.

Blair recommended the MSD big cap, like a Dura Spark, but looking at the engine today, sure looks like the big cap will interfere with the expansion tank. I broke the engine in with a Dura Spark but the engine did not have the expansion tank. Will the big cap adapter clear the expansion tank?

Thanks to all,

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 07, 2018, 09:35:01 AM »
Thanks Posi. Ill look for the big cap to. I appreciate all the feed back.

Any comments on a converter change that will help with the new intake and adapter? I will run with what I have for now (4200) but the intake probably wont see its full potential without a convertor change.

Thanks again for all assistance.

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 06, 2018, 06:49:19 PM »
Thanks Blair, that's really good info. I wasn't sure I should turn the engine over about 6100/6200 or so. I probably never told you how super pleased I am with the heads and the carb you did for me. I'm having a blast and the car seems to be doing great, even with my dumbass driving techniques...LOL...I'm still learning to stage consistently and even do a proper burnout but I'm slowly catching on...I guess,,,,,,,,,,,Mucho thanks to guys like you and Jay and the kind folks on this forum.

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 06, 2018, 06:40:28 PM »
Thanks Jay, I actually just checked the "nub" and installed a new rotor after a little tang bending, but I didn't have a new cap. I  ordered 2 new MSD cap/rotor kits. Im anxious to check the phasing soon as it stops raining, maybe Sunday. I have an old cap to drill. Hopefully can make some runs next weekend, as this weekend is a washout. thanks again for all your help. The new adapter and intake went on great. Porting job looked great.

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 06, 2018, 03:28:17 PM »
Keith, I actually had looked at the MSD flying magnet deal but from what I could tell they did not offer one for the FE series engines, only SBs and 429/460.
I also test ran the new engine before install with the Dura spark ignition and Im wondering if the larger cap of the Dura Spark might help with the spark scatter and the new crappy MSD caps. Its my understading that the MSD Digital 6AL box will work with the new duraSpark distributor I have. Im so green getting back into drag racing after so long, all this stuff is new to me and I have to read and ask questions to see what works. Thanks

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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1965 Ranchero 445
« on: April 06, 2018, 01:52:59 PM »
Trans was a TCI street fighter, and it came with the worst servo Ford offered for the C6, so a local guy, Nelson Temple, installed the "R"? servo and manual shift valve body. Transmission shifts great now.

The car started out as a street car but has just morphed into a drag car so I'm still reluctant/scared to letter the car and not sure of a name for the thing anyway. Lettering may happen, just haven't decided on that yet..

Jay, the convertor is a 4200 and seems to work good for what it is but I'm thinking I may need to go to a 5000 or so, especially with the new intake. Cant wait to run the thing....The miss I encountered with this whole over-rev situation may just turn out to be the sorry ass MSD cap and rotor. I also think it may need to be phased as the "hit" on the cap terminal is on the side/corner of all the terminals, not centered. I may do the drill a hole in the cap and use a timing light to see how bad it really is and purchase the adjustable rotor that MSD offers. My old MSD cap ( from over 5 years ago) has copper or brass? cap terminals and the new ones are aluminum I guess. The new plastic cap material even looks cheap.
FYI, I have rev limiter set at 6400, trying to shift at 6-6100....I also have a new 31 spline 4:86 spool, N case to install from Quick Performance, but will need a new driveshaft for the 1350 joints so I haven't moved on that yet. Need to be sure I can receive DS before next race May 5th.

Any comments on phasing or a better quality MSD cap/rotor that may be offered, I'm all ears. I thought MSD offered a RACE cap and rotor but have been unsuccessful in finding one.

thanks for all the comments

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