New Ford GT now available, older ones likes Jay's worth big money!

[machoneman]

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/13/luxury/ford-gt-supercar-application/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

[cjshaker]

How about a group purchase? I'll chip in $1000, and since it's my idea, I get it for the first year.

[WConley]

I wonder how much the V6 powerplant will hurt this car, especially given the fact that the race car is moving up to a V8.

The Jaguar XJ220 comes to mind.  It is rare, super exotic, and fast.  For twenty years though, the values did not go up much over MSRP.  Only now are they shifting for decent money - over $350K.

I blame the V6 for that.  Will it hold back the new GT and make the previous gen even more valuable?  I bet Jay hopes so!

[machoneman]

How about a group purchase? I'll chip in $1000, and since it's my idea, I get it for the first year.

O.k. me too and bux from Jay too! But, he can only look at it and not drive it. Hey, that's fair......he's already got one! LOL

[jayb]

I wonder how much the V6 powerplant will hurt this car, especially given the fact that the race car is moving up to a V8.

What??  The race car is going to a V-8?  I hadn't heard that; Bill can you elaborate on that a little?  I thought the reason for the V-6 was that it fit the chassis, whereas the V-8 wouldn't...

[shady]

ford really has all their eggs in the ecoboost basket. I'll bet in 3 years that will be the only eng. available, with different hp. levels as the options. I haven't driven one yet & I am waiting to see what they do with the dirty intake valve situation. I don't see the v6 hurting the value on the gt.

[Dumpling]

$500,000 with tax.

Anyone know what insurance costs for a $500K 1 of 500 vehicle per year?  Serious question.

[WConley]

I wonder how much the V6 powerplant will hurt this car, especially given the fact that the race car is moving up to a V8.

What??  The race car is going to a V-8?  I hadn't heard that; Bill can you elaborate on that a little?  I thought the reason for the V-6 was that it fit the chassis, whereas the V-8 wouldn't...

Oh no!  I went to look for the article I read a few weeks ago from Hot Rod.  This is what I found 

http://www.hotrod.com/news/1604-ford-gt-switches-from-ecoboost-v6-to-v8s-for-le-mans-racing-program/

I got April fooled!

[jayb]

LOL Mr. Bill!  Oh Noooooo!!!!!!

[jayb]

$500,000 with tax.

Anyone know what insurance costs for a $500K 1 of 500 vehicle per year?  Serious question.

Definitely a concern.  When I got my GT in 2005, I went shopping around for insurance.  Everybody I talked to wanted $3000 per year, except my long time insurer, State Farm.  They were only $1100 per year for a limited driving policy, so that's the way I went.  I guess being with them since I started driving in 1974, and never having had an accident, probably helped.  I might just contact them about this.

On another note, I decided to go ahead with the application process.  I read the fine print and it basically said there is no commitment from Ford to sell the car to you if you apply, and no requirement for you to buy the car if you are selected.  So, why not?  I got all the way through the application process, but then at the very end they want you to post a 60 second video on youtube explaining why you should be picked to own one LOL!  Well, this is going to be fun...

[Jim Comet]

I hope the engines prove durable. I stopped in and talked to a Ford mechanic buddy and he says they are replacing the timing chain on a lot of the 3.5 ecoboosts in the pickups. They are stretching. He has had some that he layed the old and new chains next to each other and with the same number of links the old chains had stretched so they were 3 links to long. I checked my parts catalog and Ford has not changed the part numbers or ID numbers so I don't believe there has been a re engineering of the chain. I have only heard good things about driveability and towing power minus poor mileage when towing. Jim

[Hemi Joel]

I volunteer to be the cameraman. As you know I have plenty of experience in this department, I'll make sure the video is interesting and engaging.

[WConley]

I think the video should be of the flogging Jay gave his '05 GT at Drag Week (with some snarky comments by Freiburger and plenty of clutch smoke).

[turbohunter]

he says they are replacing the timing chain on a lot of the 3.5 ecoboosts in the pickups. They are stretching.

This is my concern with the truck engines.
I get it in a smaller platforms. Nice engine but when you need a V8 you need a V8. I hope they prove me wrong.

[cjshaker]

On another note, I decided to go ahead with the application process.  I read the fine print and it basically said there is no commitment from Ford to sell the car to you if you apply, and no requirement for you to buy the car if you are selected.  So, why not?  I got all the way through the application process, but then at the very end they want you to post a 60 second video on youtube explaining why you should be picked to own one LOL!  Well, this is going to be fun...

If you listed and gave a quick showing of your Drag Week cars, the wins and the '05 GT, I'd almost bet money that you'd get a call eventually. I'm sure their looking for people who would take the car seriously, and not some rich young punk who's going to get bad publicity by crashing it.

[Nightmist66]

he says they are replacing the timing chain on a lot of the 3.5 ecoboosts in the pickups. They are stretching.

This is my concern with the truck engines.
I get it in a smaller platforms. Nice engine but when you need a V8 you need a V8. I hope they prove me wrong.

We had one come into work that stretched the chains, jumped about 3 or 4 teeth on the crank and bent some valves. Cranked over real easy, zero compression!  Besides the timing chains, I've had a couple ecoboost F150s come through the shop needing turbos also. Turbo wastegate acuators get stuck and make weird boost noises along with possible surging under load. They run decent when everything is right though.

[jayb]

I wonder how many miles they will typically go before the chains stretch so much that they should be replaced?  I have a 3.6L Ecoboost in my 2014 pickup; already got 45K miles on it...

[turbohunter]

Is that the truck you tow with Jay?

[jayb]

Yes,  tows my race car and trailer effortlessly.  Feels the same as my 2005 F-150 with the 5.4.

[shady]

are you running a catch can for the PCV?

[Nightmist66]

I wonder how many miles they will typically go before the chains stretch so much that they should be replaced?  I have a 3.6L Ecoboost in my 2014 pickup; already got 45K miles on it...

The last one I saw come in had 60-65k miles I believe. Usually it is higher than that for the majority of what we see.

[Qikbbstang]

I believe "chain stretch" is a bit of a misnomer in that the links don't stretch but rather the pins and mating parts wear and that allows the chain to get longer. Having grown up with dirt-bikes its interesting to see the amount of wear/stretch is routine until the components wear through their hardened surface layers and wear/stretch suddenly accelerates big time.
   When it comes to wear/stretch on timing chains in these new fangled high-tech motors you got to figure the same environmentally friendly near zero-zinc crap oil's features or lack thereof that kills flat tappet cams might well play hell on the parts of a chain.  D'oh!

[Qikbbstang]

More Than 7,000 Applications Submitted at FordGT.com and that 7,000 figure's over a week old.

      Personally I can't understand Ford's building the GT in the, I guess you'd call it configuration: price, limited quantities and high tech infrastructure of the car.  Two seat exotic Chevy has the Vette and dare we compare Ford has the GT (lets not forget the last GT version was compared to Vettes, Viper's and other exotics by the magazines. But that Ferrari $400K+ sticker puts that in an entirely new league.  Certainly there are balance points of production numbers:cost that with higher production numbers the cost should fall but to me Ford is missing the market, profit and notoriety of having an exotic in popular numbers.   Hard to handle Ford building such a restricted number of GTs and the price  ---

http://racing.ford.com/enthusiasts/media-room/2016/04/more-than-7-000-applications-submitted-at-fordgt-com.html