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Heo

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2018, 03:35:17 PM »
That is correct Heo. At least if you use a MC from a Maverick like I did when I went manual. No changes to pedal but had to buy an adjustable rod from Scott Drake. Brakes are better now than with booster and little vacuum but I still don't think I would manage to lock them on a dirt road
I sent you a PM Jan about the rattrapp between booster and firewall



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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »
No problem Jay, thanks for the part no, I think I will try one of those kits as well.
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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2018, 05:43:35 PM »
A manual brake master cylinder from a Ford Ranger works well and gives more clearance for valve covers.

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2018, 10:30:58 PM »
That is correct Heo. At least if you use a MC from a Maverick like I did when I went manual. No changes to pedal but had to buy an adjustable rod from Scott Drake. Brakes are better now than with booster and little vacuum but I still don't think I would manage to lock them on a dirt road

My CJ car was switched over from power discs at some time, probably when it was a class legal SE car. They put finned front drum brakes on with the manual master mounted as yours is. Car stops well, no need for non-stock-appearing, funny-shaped, in-your-face logo, Henry Ford spinning in his grave parts. Also still has line lock, which I'll eventually get rid of. Darn race cars   ::)

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2018, 02:36:34 PM »
Saw this Torino GT three weeks back.Surprised to see it run as high as B/S.Owner said that only the GT could make it that far.A Cobra could only make C at best.Ran 10.70's.I do believe your traction bars are from MAS....4500 series.
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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2018, 09:09:42 PM »
Steve, please see the email I sent you regarding posting copyrighted material.
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2018, 09:25:00 PM »
I understand.These were on FB.Saw this as a non issue.Thank you for the heads up.

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« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2018, 09:42:28 PM »
Here's one my friend Mike took.Should be alright as I just spoke with him.

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2018, 04:37:02 PM »
I finally made it to a stopping point on this car today.  On Monday this week the THIRD 15X7 wheel came for the car.  I took it right down to BradFORD's shop and took a video of him taking it out of the box, mounting it on the wheel balancer, and spinning it up.  I was prepared to send the video to Summit Racing in case the third wheel in a row was bent, but thankfully this one was straight.  I got the tire mounted and balanced, and by Monday night the car was sitting on all four wheels.  Hallelujah!

However, I was still a little concerned about the rear end of the car, in particular the axles and axle seals.  As pictured previously, one of my axles had a sleeve pressed on behind the bearing retainer, and the other did not.  After some commments from the forum and my friend Kevin, and checking my 69 R code Mach 1 original axles, I concluded that my axles should both have those sleeves.  Thanks to Earl (afret) who pointed me towards a source for them, I had ordered one last week and it arrived on Tuesday.  Here's a picture:




I had to machine a steel donut with a 1.340" inside diameter to press the sleeve onto the axle, but that was no big deal.  So now both axles had the sleeves.

Now, the outside diameter of the sleeve is just about 1.5".  But the rear axle seals that I had put in the car had a 1.375" inside diameter.  When I had purchased the new seals, I had taken one of the old ones into the local NAPA store and matched up the number, so that I would be sure to get the right seal.  But the OD of the sleeve and the ID of my new seals did not compute.  The 1.375" ID seal actually looked like it worked on the axle without the sleeve installed.  All the original stuff from when I took this apart a few weeks ago is in the trash now, but I suspect that the axle without the sleeve was replaced with the 1.375" ID seal, and the correct 1.5" ID seal was used on the axle with the sleeve.  And, it just so happened that I took the seal with the 1.375" ID in to NAPA to get new ones.  So, I probably had the wrong axles seals in the rear end.

As a result of this train of thought I bought two new axle seals from Mac's specifically for this car.  They came with a 2.26" OD and a 1.5" ID, which looked to be correct for the axles with the sleeves on them.  Today I replaced the axle seals I'd just put in a few weeks ago.  The one on the side where the axle had the sleeve was beat up pretty good, probably just from the installation, and would have certainly leaked.  The other one looked fine, but of course that axle didn't have the sleeve.

After the new seals were installed the rear end went back together without any drama.  After dropping the car down on its wheels I took a couple of pictures of it from the side, with the new wheels and tires.  I was thinking that the stance looked just about right when the left front was still up on the jackstand, but now I don't think so.  Looks to me like both the front and the rear could come down 1"-2".  What do you guys think?  Here are the pics:






In the rear, I still have the extended shackles on the car that came with it when I bought it.  I have one more hole I could drop them down into, or I could just go back to the stock shackles, to get the back end down.  In the front, I think I'm going to have to cut the coil springs somewhat, but I will replace them with new springs before I decide to do that.  But at this point the stance is a project for another day; right now the car has good brakes and runs, so its going on the back burner for a while yet.  I will post more on this thread when I start working on the car again.


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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2018, 04:43:45 PM »
I like low.
But I’m from California. ;D
BTW I’d give my eye teeth to find a Cobra that nice.
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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2018, 06:04:06 PM »
I'm with you Marc, even though I'm NOT from California ;D  This car will look more NASCAR-ish with the stance set down a little, and I like that look for these cars.  But compared to how it looked with 7 leaf springs, air shocks, and L60-15 tires on those rusty old Keystones, it is already an improvement LOL!
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2018, 07:14:27 PM »
I dont know  mayby a litle higher profile on the rear tire
and slight drop in the front...but thats me i like the stinkbug stance
How was the brakepedal with the "rat trap" and no booster?



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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2018, 08:18:19 PM »
+1 with Marc, needs to be at least 1" lower maybe more all around.  Btw I grew up in SoCal too, haha
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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2018, 09:55:25 PM »
I have been petitioning Satan hisself from devouring your soul for actually welding gussets onto a real SCJ housing. I was shocked. Still am. With your money, and with the expected horsepower going in, an aftermarket housing with double-welded tubes and a back brace would have been the ticket. Not much I can do; your demise will be of Biblical fury.

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Re: 1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2018, 04:55:32 AM »
About another 15"lower for my liking  ;D