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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: billtroth on March 12, 2018, 12:40:10 PM
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I know the subject has been covered a lot but I am still looking for some input on intake manifold gaskets. I am installing a port matched Edelbrock Victor manifold with Edelbrock heads. Here's my choices:
I have a new in the package a set of Victor Reinz #MS15166X
I also have a new set of Fel-Pro 90145
Finally I have no problem buying another brand or spec. set of gaskets if they would be better than either of the above.
Thanks in advance if any comments and help on this.
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That Victor Reinz is an excellent gasket, and no longer available as far as I know. I'll bet I used 50 of those when I was doing the intake comparo book, before I couldn't get them anymore. Outside of that one, the Mr. Gasket 202A is a very good gasket also. I've probably used over 100 of those...
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i agree wholeheartedly with jay, but i'll add that one evening of motor thrashing installing an intake i realized i didn't have any intake gaskets at all.
i broke out some Mr gasket header material the white logo'ed stuff, and made a set of gaskets with a punch set.
this was the best damn gasket i ever had on a motor, i always make them now.....jus' sayin'
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Thanks. I'm glad I have the Victor Reinz. Ironically I have it because Rock Auto had a closeout on FE parts and the gaskets were one of the items I picked up. My wife sometimes accuses me or being hoarder but occasionally something from my "hoard" of FE parts works out .
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+1 on the Mr. Gasket 202A. The Felpro 90145 isn't a bad gasket, but I think the Mr. Gasket has a much better material quality.
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Is this the gasket you guys are talking about?
https://www.amazon.com/MAHLE-Original-MS15166X-Engine-Manifold/dp/B000CLIIEW
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Looks like it, but I can't tell for sure from the picture. If that gasket has raised ribs around the ports, its probably the same one.
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Yes, the gasket in the Amazon page is what I have.
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Those Victor Reinz gaskets were nice. For a while (like 15 yrs) Mahle had an agreement with VR (Dana) to make and distribute those gaskets. But as agreements between businesses tend to do, everything went poof.
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SCE does offer a med riser gasket that is very much like the VR. It has a metal skeleton and Graflon exterior. PN 234103
http://scegaskets.com/store/ford/ford-fe/ford-fe-intakes/sce-gaskets-part-number-234103/
If you guys would like good pictures of the gasket let me know.
Ryan has plans for more and there are other styles of FE gaskets online.
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i had problems getting a good seal till i tried the mr gasket 202a.no problems now.i wont mention the name on the ones that i couldnt get to seal.but the mr gasket works.
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I seen that MAHLE gasket super to home from autozone for $13.99. If their that good I will order some tonight.
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Rock Auto has them. $4.92
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mahle+original/victor+reinz,MS15166X,intake+manifold+gasket,5424
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Mr. Gasket 202A here and like them. I had to trim them to fit my ported Edelbrock heads. Not a whole lot of gasket left in some spots after trimming, but they work great.
paulie
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Jay, is this the gaskets you like ?
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mahle+original/victor+reinz,MS15166X,intake+manifold+gasket,5424
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Any thoughts Jay and others ?
I'll need to get a set soon.
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Those are fine, so are the Mr. Gasket 202As.
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Flatout makes some nice intake gaskets for the fe, several different thickness as well. Good stuff.
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Those are fine, so are the Mr. Gasket 202As.
Thank you.
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The Mr. Gasket 202A and other brands, the the gasket for the bottom of the timming cover is cork. I've heard from others and with my last 428, oil soaks the gasket, which make a oil mess in the garage and sprays oil everything under the car.
Mine was never that bad, but I hate any leaks. One guy sealed the gasket with silicone anf another used super glue to seal it.
What's your fix ?
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Which out of the three would you guys choose ?
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I don't think you were asking about the timing cover as much as the end seals on the intake. The timing cover cork is easy
End seals for the intake, there are two camps.
1 - Ditch the end seals and use an adhesive sealant, Ford makes one, Motorcraft TA-31. Regular RTV won't last. LOTS of guys go this route successfully, but I have not ever done it
2 - Glue the corks down, but to do so they have to fit. This is what I do, I use 3M to solidly glue the corks to the block, then at asselbly, give them a light coat of any RTV. It acts as a lubricant to allow the intake to slide while you tighten it, then hardens to seal
#1 likely takes less thinking and works for some very smart guys, so I can't knock it, but you are counting on a bond, not pressure, to hold a seal and hold it in place
#2 often doesn't work well if the block or intake has been cut, and often you need to cut the intake to get the proper room, or sometimes you have too much room. However, I like it because when I am done, I am done. The cork is held tightly in place by both compression and adhesive.
I would likely recommend #1 if inexperienced at this
Finally, which gasket doesn't matter as much as you think, just pick one, Mr Gasket 202A if you need us to pick. The key thing is making sure it all fits together and you don't rush
Second thing, you HAVE to check every bolt in your new intake. Almost every single FE intake takes different length bolts from the others, and if you have too long of a bolt, you'll push out the threads and if too short you will strip it as you torque it.
What I do is, stick all my bolts in the holes with the intake on the bench, you want about 1/2 inch sticking out. If I have at least that, then I check the depth holes in the head with a small screwdriver to make sure none will bottom out
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Correct.
I'm thinking #2, but will consider both. Thank you for the lesson, I appreciate them. ;)
What other "FE" leaks are there and how to best fix them ?