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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2020, 08:36:23 AM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2020, 09:27:06 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2020, 10:09:06 AM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2020, 11:53:15 AM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2020, 03:09:39 PM »
I didn't see total advance, are you using the same amount as before or are you moving it depending on what the engine likes?
my guess is it's going to be about the same with minor variances in the assembly and dyno conditions.
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2020, 04:52:52 PM »
It is going to be interesting to see. My guess is up 10 HP and 6 TQ from the prior build

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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2020, 05:17:27 AM »
Tomorrow's the day (unless it thunderstorms all day) for this one.   A quick eye will catch the 390 valve covers on a 445.....my customer wanted "the sleeper look".   

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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2020, 06:42:24 AM »
Love the 390 valve covers!

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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2020, 07:25:37 AM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2020, 08:25:30 AM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2020, 10:49:25 AM »
Wow I just found this one.
OK, the Gonkulator says:
EXACTLY THE SAME as the April build.
*Tighter LSA helps
* 2 fewer CID hurts
* Less exhaust duration hurts
So net result is the same.

I'll knock off 1 pony for the 390 valve covers.
I mean, everybody knows all the hot 390's were Ford Black, not Ford Blue, right?

So
Torq 587
Powr 546

Don't know if you have time on the dyno, but the Gonkulator also thinks theres a barrel of horsepower in there if you retard the cam 6 degrees to ICL=111, like over 20hp. Depends on the goals!
Thanks for posting all this data Brent it will help folks (and the Gonkulator) a lot as we enter a new era of FE heads.
Power like we never imagined back when C8OE-N was "the hot setup"

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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2020, 11:29:25 AM »
I'm right with 'The Werb' on this one. Particularly on the block color! ;)

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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2020, 03:50:51 PM »
Really good data today. 

In the past, I've always correlated duration splits with intake/exhaust flow ratios.  Today's data proved that more of a duration split in conjunction with an exhaust port that isn't up to snuff in comparison to the intake port is necessary if you're looking at making horsepower and torque. 

I kept everything the exact same as the last engine, including the timing, carb spacer, you name it. 

As a recap, both engines that we have examined have been relatively common 445 cubic inch engines.  Trick Flow heads.  Performer RPM with the divider cut down.  Same rods.  Same pistons.  Same crankshaft.  Same distributor.  Same timing.  Same carburetor.   One engine had a 231/239 @ .050" hydraulic roller on a 114.  This engine had a 231/235 @ .050" on a 113.  Both cams had .630" lift.  Both cams were on a 105 ICL. 

The previous engine made 547 hp @5750.

If we compare apples to apples (the previous engine used a 2" Super Sucker") the engine today made 527 hp. 

However, it would be unfair if I didn't try to tune for optimal setup, just in case this camshaft "liked" something else.   We did a few tweaks here and there but the engine really responded when we changed from a 2" HVH Super Sucker to a 1" HVH Street Sweeper.   We gained 9 hp there. 

So at the end of the day, where were we?  We ended up with 536 hp @ 5500 with 575 lb-ft of torque at 4500. 

What was the difference between the two engines?  11 hp and 13 lb-ft of torque. 

So who won? 
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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2020, 04:26:27 PM »
Brent,
Glad it went well.

Had you tried the 1" HVH sweeper on the April 447 engine?

Also, do you know the weather (ie uncorrected conditions) for the April dyno vs this one?
In other words, what was the correction factor for the April runs vs these runs?

The differences are only ~2%, probably significant but if the correction factors were VERY different, that would add scatter.

These are both with your 2" dyno headers? Both with engine turning the water pump? Same pulleys?

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Re: Guess the horsepower game 6.20.20 # 1
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2020, 04:42:54 PM »
Brent,
Glad it went well.

Had you tried the 1" HVH sweeper on the April 447 engine?

Also, do you know the weather (ie uncorrected conditions) for the April dyno vs this one?
In other words, what was the correction factor for the April runs vs these runs?

The differences are only ~2%, probably significant but if the correction factors were VERY different, that would add scatter.

These are both with your 2" dyno headers? Both with engine turning the water pump? Same pulleys?

Not sure on the correct factors, I'd have to dig it up.  But in theory, the dyno should make both sessions "even". 

Same headers, 2".  Neither engines were turning any accessories. 

I don't believe this is out of reason at all.  Most FE heads have a poor exhaust flow in comparison to the intake....even these TFS heads.   I've never seen an instance where a single pattern or small split was beneficial on an FE.   Sometimes we have to do it to crutch some overlap issues, but if I have full license on a camshaft, I split it quite a bit. 

FWIW, this camshaft had 15" of vacuum.  The owner asked me to check as he's buying a souped up C6 that has to have a minimum of 15" to make it work.  We squeaked by.
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