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FE Technical Forum / Trickflow heads - gone for good?
« on: February 22, 2024, 11:56:38 AM »
I saw a posting in private classifieds looking for Trickflow heads last night.  I checked Trickflow's website after seeing the post and noted their lead time was August or so of this year.  Might have been September or October, but I can't confirm since their website now shows this for availability.  Did we just lose a nice option for cylinder heads?

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FE Technical Forum / Deck with water jacket rods/pins showing
« on: February 20, 2024, 09:08:40 PM »
While I'm waiting on the rotating assembly from Barry, I figured it would be prudent to get the block ready.  Sent to the machine shop to get cam bearings installed, have the main caps honed with the ARP studs installed, etc. and so forth.  Asked them to make sure the deck was good and if needed, take off no more than necessary to get things squared up.  Just pulled the block out of the bag tonight to clean out the oil galleries, install the gallery plugs and get it on the engine stand.  After getting it on the stand and applying some wd40 to mitigate surface rust while waiting for the rotating assembly, I noticed I could see the rods/pins (not sure what to call them) from the water jackets on the deck.  Just curious if this is anything to be concerned about.

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FE Technical Forum / Ford FE Motor Mount Adapter (2 Bolt to 4 Bolt)
« on: February 16, 2024, 07:51:10 PM »
Didn't want to hijack the post regarding the billet heads soooo..

Here's a block to go with it.

https://www.wolverineengines.com/product/ford-fe-billet-aluminum-block/

Now go build ya one of them 2500hp pro charger FE's..

As noted in the subject of this post, the site Keith mentioned has some FE motor mount adapters.  I stared at them for awhile but for the life of me don't know what their purpose is.  My limited experience only spans FE engines in '62 to '66 Galaxies so I'm sure there are other configurations that would warrant them.  Just curious what that might be. 

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FE Technical Forum / Throttle body options for port fuel injection
« on: November 29, 2023, 09:56:04 AM »
I was reviewing options for a throttle body in relation to converting to port injection.  The question I was left with is if there are any performance related advantages or disadvantages to using an EFI throttle body intake elbow along with an EFI throttle body versus a 4BBL throttle body on the EFI intake manifold.  Any insight is appreciated.


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Private Classifieds / For entertainment only
« on: November 09, 2023, 03:35:18 AM »
Came across these "jewels" while browsing.  Seems like Mississippi and Louisiana is the market to sell FE related items for big $$$.

390 FE Motor - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/860360632103005 - Has only been overheated once, super rare.

1960/61 352 ford Fe engine - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2362268337494894 - Strong runner

SIDE OILER FORD - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/934000044569430 - No additional charge for dirt, chain is extra

In other news, meth addiction in MS and LA has reached an all time high.

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FE Technical Forum / SCAT stroker kits
« on: September 27, 2023, 03:42:47 PM »
Not sure where exactly to ask this, so my apologies if this board is not the correct place for this question. After searching through the vendor and private classified boards and not coming up with anything useful, I decided to ask if anyone happens to have any SCAT stroker kits on hand.  Any information is appreciated.

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FE Technical Forum / Blue Thunder Weber manifolds
« on: September 14, 2023, 12:53:53 PM »
I see that Blue Thunder has 3 different Weber manifolds for the FE listed in their catalog.  The standard cut F.E. IDA Weber manifold, angle cut F.E. IDA Weber manifold, and eight ( 8 ) venturi FE IDA fuel injection manifold. Due to lack of information in their catalog and my inability to obtain additional information about the f.i. version of the manifold, I'm making this post in hopes of getting some useful information to determine if it would be a good fit for my project. As always, any information is appreciated.

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Private Classifieds / C4AE 6090G Heads
« on: August 26, 2023, 11:16:34 PM »
These have been machined to fit 2.190 intake valves and 1.650 exhaust valves. New 11/32 bronze valve guides and Viton valve seals. Spring seats were cut (O.E. diameter) to fit the beehive springs which are using spring seats that fit the 5/8 (.625) guides. No work has been done to the heads to take advantage of the bigger valve sizes.  $500 for the heads without springs, retainers and valves. I plan on using the valves in a different set of heads but I will entertain the idea of selling as a complete package.  Buyer will pay shipping from 52342. I would be willing to make a 2 or 3 hour drive to meet someone 1/2 way.

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FE Technical Forum / New flywheel and pistons
« on: August 10, 2023, 10:22:58 PM »
As noted in the subject, I purchased a lightweight flywheel and new set of pistons and sent the rotating assembly (crank, flywheel and bolts, rods, rod bearings, rings, pistons, and damper) to be balanced again.  I can see that the flywheel was bolted to the crankshaft at some point and I think small amounts of filing might have been performed on the pistons.  The part I'm a bit confused by is the rod bearings still being shrink wrapped in their original packaging.  I'm re-using the rings from the previous set of pistons, so I have no way of knowing if their weight was factored in since they were just tied together as a set from each cylinder and were not packaged like the rod bearings. I don't see any markings on the pistons in relation to the connecting rods either (i.e., #1 piston to be used on #1 connecting rod).

It has literally been decades since I had this assembly balanced the first time so I don't remember all of the particulars, but I think I recall particular pistons being paired with particular rods. The other note of interest is that after the machine shop had the assembly for a month (with no contact of any sort), I called to inquire about the progress and had the rotating assembly back in my shop 2 days later. Either my timing is impeccable, or the job was being ignored until an inquiry was made and then fast tracked to completion. The last experience I had with a machine shop doing work on this engine (different one from the shop doing the current work) resulted in missing oil gallery plugs and the rear cam plug being installed backwards. In short, I have no faith in the local shops (all of the veterans have retired) but figured balancing the rotating assembly should be fairly straight forward.

So my question is, should I be concerned about the rotating assembly being balanced properly?  I am inclined to think the answer is yes.

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Private Classifieds / C3AE crossbolt main cap set - SOLD
« on: August 08, 2023, 07:25:41 PM »
$225 OBO, buyer pays shipping.  PM me if interested.

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FE Technical Forum / 66 Galaxie Rack and Pinion Conversion
« on: August 02, 2023, 10:01:16 PM »
So I thought it would be nice to "unclutter" the engine bay a bit by doing away with the steering box and reduce the number of bushings and joints in the steering linkage. The Unisteer option would be the easiest route from what I've seen after a bit of searching. Bolts up to the frame where the steering box and idler arm bracket attach. Power steering would be a nice addition (the car is currently manual steer which is super fun with the 390 sitting in the engine bay and not in motion), but pumps, lines, and power steering fluid are soooooo 2001.  EPAS attached to the steering column would address that issue and allow a manual rack to be used but why add clutter to one area while removing it from another?  Modern racks have EPAS built in of course, but most (if not all) rear steer EPAS racks have the electric motor mounted vertically since the vehicles are FWD by default and present clearance issues.  Vehicles like Mustangs or Navigators have racks with the motors mounted horizontally but they are a front steer configuration.

So my thoughts are:

1) Use a rack like the one in the picture (front steer) only modified so it will be a rear steer center take-off style. That means replacing the tie rods on the rack with something to attach to the existing spindle connector rods. Also, some sort of setup will be needed to turn the input shaft of the rack in the opposite direction the steering wheel is being turned so turning the steering wheel left or right will result in a turn in the same direction.  Yeesh!

2) Use the rack as designed by switching the spindles to opposite sides and converting to front steer.  Then the only hurdles would be mounting the rack, attaching the steering column to the rack's input shaft, wiring it up, and most likely an alignment.

I'm not sure what clearance issues the oil pan might present if going the front steer route, but elimination of the spindle connector rods means a rear sump oil pan would be an option.  I believe the rack could be mounted and not interfere with the strut that attaches to the frame and lower arm or the stabilizer bar. That leaves my biggest concern.  What effect will swapping the spindles have regarding caster? Adjustments to caster can be made of course, but a visual inspection with the spindles installed is a bit inconclusive when trying to determine if a swap would be feasible or not.  Thoughts?

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FE Technical Forum / Intake conversion to port fuel injection
« on: July 25, 2023, 10:56:40 PM »
Broke out Jay's "The Great FE Intake Comparo" to get an idea of a good candidate for an intake to have injector ports added.  After my review, I think for my application (390 stroker) the Blue Thunder 2x4 or the Edelbrock Performer RPM Dual-Quad Air-Gap 2x4 (such a long name) are good candidates.  I'm leaning towards the Blue Thunder.  I saw Trick Flow has a tunnel wedge intake, but that is too new to have been part of Jay's testing. I like the possibility of having injectors on the under side of the tunnel wedge's runners, but..
1. No idea if injectors there would be a good or bad idea
2. No idea how that intake would perform on a 390 stroker

Any thoughts or input would be appreciated.

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FE Technical Forum / Screw in welch plugs
« on: July 20, 2023, 08:25:16 PM »
According to my handy dandy framing square, the deck of the block and the face of the welch plug holes are perpendicular to each other.  I couldn't help myself after tapping the oil galleries and making this small discovery and thought "Might as well tap those too."  My plan is to use the deck to bolt on a jig for the tap and machine down a chunk of aluminum bar stock I had sitting around to center the tap in relation to the hole.  Since the body of the tap is 1.499" and the hole in the block is 1.750" it makes sense to me the bar stock can be machined to match the body of the tap on one end and the block hole on the other.  Should do a very good job of centering the jig before tightening things down and switching to the tap. After that, some cutting oil and a bit of elbow grease should produce a nicely prepped hole ready for the screw in plug.

As always, I like to take into account I might not be perfect :o in my approach to things. If I may have overlooked something or their are other points of interest I'm not aware of, feel free to let me know.

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FE Technical Forum / Cam thrust plate damage
« on: July 12, 2023, 07:45:29 PM »
While inspecting things after teardown of my engine, I noticed the thrust plate for the camshaft has been badly worn.

Quick history. The engine has approximately 3 to 4k on a "rebuild".  It was used for a engine rebuild project my son had while going through an automotive course a few years ago. Basic stuff, bearings, refresh heads, cleaning block, etc.  The machine shop near the college that did the machine work obviously was not terribly familiar with FEs.  The rear cam plug wasn't installed correctly and at least one of the rear oil gallery plugs wasn't installed.  Shout out to the instructors for running the oil pump with a drill and finding that missing plug before firing the engine.

The plug had been spun enough by the camshaft that it was leaking oil and I was able to remove it by finger during teardown. I am assuming the wear on the thrust plate is directly related to the incorrectly installed rear camshaft plug and not due to an oiling issue.  If I am assuming incorrectly, please let me know.

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FE Technical Forum / Converting to screw in oil gallery plugs
« on: July 11, 2023, 09:15:18 PM »
After reading various posts and watching an excellent video of Brent's, I brought out the reamer and tap and went to work.  I'm assuming this isn't an issue but thought it would be prudent to ask about the depth on the 4 rear plugs.  On all other plugs I ended up with 2 or so threads from being flush, with a slightly different result on the rear plugs as shown in the picture.  On the plus side, the plug between the distributor and lifter bores turned out perfect.  8)  Do I need to worry about the rear plugs sticking out farther than a couple threads? Any feedback is appreciated. 

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