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FE Technical Forum / Help with cheater slick selection
« on: May 02, 2022, 09:04:45 AM »
There are 3 small town car shows within 80 miles of me that are including 150 foot main street drags now and rumor is more to come. I just run mine in one last week and no traction at all. I want to buy some slicks to play more. So i need some help to go to the 1/4 mile track once in a while and for these 150 ft hole shot drags.
My car is a 63.5 Galaxie 500 XL with 390, tripower, 406 shorty cast iron headers with 2 1/2” exhaust with dumps, 350 traction loc, 68 big in big out 4-speed toploader close ratio with 2:32 1st, 275-60-15 Cooper Cobra Tires and traction masters,
I realize people will say get ride of the close and change it to wide, but I actually like driving the close ratio.
Engine is 68 390, .060 over, H304P with 12cc dish, 21cc deck clearance with these pistons, 69cc 63 heads no head work done, .030 Cosemetic head gasketFord tripower, no work done, Comp 270S cam with 282S exhaust lobes, petronix lll curved distributor by Faron Rhodes,
I like the 3:50 gears to drive down the highway, 2550 rpm at 65 so probably will not change the rear gearing, and probably will keep the toploader the way it is although I did buy the 1 3/8” input, 2nd and 3rd gears and cluster wide ratio stuff a few years ago safely sleeping in a box on the shelf.
Not doing this for money, just like grabbing gears and having fun.
Which cheater slicks or whatever they are called and size of tire does anyone recommend?

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FE Technical Forum / 428 flywheel
« on: February 10, 2021, 10:11:38 PM »
What is the difference between flywheel on a 410, 428, 428cj and a 428scj. Does the 428 SCJ take a different flywheel than the 410, 428 and the 428cj. I hear that the scj428 has a different Ford part number, C9ZE A,  than the others. I know you have to add the hatchet behind the harmonic balancer on the scj428 unlike the others but I thought the flywheels were the same

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FE Technical Forum / CVF Pulleys
« on: April 29, 2020, 09:03:52 AM »
Going to run dual alt belt on my street driven 63.5 390. I also have added Power steering and AC, so I need a couple of 3 groove pulley. Also I was looking a  I was looking at the CVF pulleys to purchase a 3 groove water pump and a 3 groove crank pulley. But they both only come in the 5.4" diameter. My pulley that I have for the FE are 6.5 on the crank pulley and 5.9 on the water pump pulley which gave it a 1.1 overdrive ratio, which are just some pulleys I found in some old parts I had but the are only 1 groove anyway. The crank pulley is the old original 390 harmonic balancer type with the integrated 3/8 pulley but I do not know what was on the water pump originally. Have no idea what was original on these cars 58 years ago. Also my Power steering, dual groove alt, and AC pulley are all 12mm as are the CVF pulleys.
Has anyone put 1 to 1 ratio for the water pump on their Street driven FE and had any cooling issues.
What ratio did Ford use on these back in the 60's?
I would like to get the combo right the 1st time rather that pull the fan and maybe radiator later to switch out the crank pulley.
so I am going to use two grooves of the water pump and crank pulley for the alt as I am running two belt on the 3G Alt. And then I am going to run the AC and PS belt together on the third groove of the water pump and Crank pulley

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FE Technical Forum / Oversized screws for stock fe adjustable rock rockers
« on: November 04, 2016, 08:26:57 PM »
Where can you find oversized screws for the adjustable or which aftermarket screw and locknut works for the stock adjustable rockers, 12 out of the 16 does not take anything to turn them.

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FE Technical Forum / Valve spring tool on car
« on: October 11, 2016, 10:40:02 PM »
Anyone know of a good tool to replace valve spring on car for our rocker shaft type heads. I tried a search here but came up with nothing. I have dual spring and was going to leave the inner one out to break in cam.

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I have a 3/8 not in and 3/8 not out fuel pump, but the connectors run right into my stock power steering pump on my 63 Galaxie,  are there any you guys are running with power steering that will work?

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FE Technical Forum / Later starter on 63 Gal with cast shorties?
« on: August 06, 2016, 07:36:37 PM »
I installed later bell housing and later starter on my 63 engine with the cast shorties. I noticed the starter wire post is within a 1/2 inch of the header.
I have heard there is a later Fe starter with the starter terminal coming off the back by the brushes, anyone know what year and model to ask for to get this starter?

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FE Technical Forum / Crankshaft tight
« on: July 30, 2016, 07:34:37 PM »
Putting engine together and crankshaft cannot be turned by hand, cannot grab ahold of a weight and spin it, have to have some leverage. Crank is a 390 .020 main crank in a 68 block. Do not have any employ either. Using Clevitte ms683 P-20 bearings. Put the crank and bearings in a 66 410 block I have here and same thing. They plastigauge at .001 and a couple at .0015. Beginning to think it is the Clevitte bearings because the crank was previously a .020 .010 crank that was fine before. Could spin it before like a wheel of fortune by grabbing a weight. And
Also is the thrust bearing the only different main bearing between early and late blocks? Tried these in a c3 block first before I put them in the 66 410 block and all the bearings fit the saddles except for the thrust bearing, it was way to tight.

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FE Technical Forum / KB 150 step dish question
« on: April 02, 2016, 08:56:20 AM »
Would a step dish piston such as the KB 150 be more efficient in burning the fuel and therefore make as much power at a lower compression as a circular dish at a higher compression?  Would the gas mileage be better with the step dish or maybe run 87 octane instead of 91 octane with the same seat of the pants thrill?  Why does KB site say there is no quench on a circular dish piston?
For instance, same cam, head, but different head gaskets as H304p has a compression height of 1.759 and the KB150 is 1.780.
H304p circular dish with 12cc and .027 gasket with 4.250 bore and .021 deck clearance gives SCR of 9.94 and DCR 8.03.
KB150 with 20cc and .041 gasket with 4.4 bore and 0 deck clearance gives SCR of 9.28 and DCR 7.50.

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FE Technical Forum / 428 crank or not?
« on: March 24, 2016, 12:42:36 PM »
I rec'd a lot of help from Jay, Ross and Brent on a 390 build I had and finally decided on which way to go.
It is a sonic tested .060 over 390 block, 390 crank, 69 cc heads, H304p 12cc dish pistons, .021 deck clearance, 12 cc dish and a  Comp 70s cam with a 280 exhaust with 110 LSA and 108 ICL. and using a .027 head gasket with 4.250 bore, It gave me a SCR of 9.948 and a DCR of 8.031. Quench would be .048.
I would have liked to go with a 428 crank but funds did not allow for a scat crank or a stock 428 crank till yesterday. I found a guy local that wanted the cam research cam I had for sale and a pair of MT 427 valve covers I have had forever and I swapped him for a 66 410. It is a standard block but it has too much taper to not be bored. The crank is also std and had good looking bearings so it will either need polished or maybe .010/.010
So if I put the 428 crank in my block, which is still not put together as I have been working on body, and use 381np pistons with 11.8 cc,
I would be still using the 69 cc heads, the same comp 270/280 cam with 110/108 and the deck clearance would be .020. But using the same .027 gasket with 4.250 bore my SCR would be 10.464 and DCR would be 8.468. Quench would be .047.
So it looks like if I went with the 428 crank it is still gonna take some special hi dollar piston with like 18cc dish which would bring it down to SCR 9.863 and DCR to 7.994.
Any suggestions?



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FE Technical Forum / pcv location,rear of intake, or valve cover
« on: January 29, 2016, 09:16:39 PM »
I've got some old MT ribbed valve covers I am thinking about running. Does a pcv work any more efficient from the top of the valve cover with the other valve cover having a breather in it than it does leaving it in the rear of the intake when still using the try under the intake? Also will have a breather on tri-power oil fill spout. Or do most of you keep it at the rear of the intake?
The MT's already have holes in them and was going to use some baffled grommets from Moroso  and also the push in breather has a built in baffle that I would hook the pcv to.

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FE Technical Forum / Crower cool-face solid lifters push rod question
« on: January 28, 2016, 10:24:48 AM »
Has anyone used the 66915X980 crower cool-face lifters. Just wondering what the push rod length they ended up with using stock adjustable rockers. I have a pushrod checker if I decide to order the lifters but it only goes up to 9 1/2 inches. Are they longer than that?

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Private Classifieds / New FE Camshaft
« on: January 14, 2016, 12:18:35 AM »
Changing my mind and going with solid lifter cam. Have a brand new in box cam and lifters. Cam is from Cam Research. Lifters were broke in on their CamKing machine. All lifters are inscribed as to what hole they go in. Cam, lifters cost $190 and another $60 for break-in plus shipping. Will sell for $160 plus shipping.
Email cebahr@hotmail.com
      Hydraulic Camshaft data

Lift                                In 540 Ex 565
Advertised duration      In 291 Ex 298
Duration @ .050           In 226. Ex 234
                 Valve Timing
                   Open.           Close
Intake      BTDC     8      ABDC   38
Exhaust.  BBDC   52     ATDC     2

Lobe separation       109
Intake Centerline.     105

4 degrees advance built in
Install straight up

  Recommended Valve Spring Data
Installed Ht    1.800       Lbs   115
Open Ht         1.200       Lbs   315

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FE Technical Forum / Cast Piston CC volume from The Horse's Mouth
« on: January 05, 2016, 05:21:52 PM »
Just wanted to share some info I found by calling the tech dept. today.I called today and actually got ahold of a person in Tech that was very cooperative. I called Fed Mogul and United Engines and they gave me the CC's of the following cast pistons:
The forged do not seem to be a problem, they always list the cc on Summit. The 1.660 info should come in handy for the 428 crank into the 390.

Brand                 Part #             Piston Style           Compression Distance      Pin Diameter             Recessed area                                      CC

Sealed Power       H395P          Flat  w/4 reliefs                  1.759                       0.975                                                                              6.0  cc
KB Silv-O-Lite      S1131          Flat w/4 reliefs                   1.760                       0.975                                                                               8.0 cc

KB Silv-O-Lite      S1116          Dish w/4 reliefs                  1.760                       0.975           .073 deep by 2.690 Diameter                          9.5 cc
Sealed Power       H304P          Dish w/4 reliefs                  1.759                       0.975           .080 deep by 3.220 Diameter                        12.0 cc
KB Silv-O-Lite      S1130          Dish w/4 reliefs                  1.760                       0,975           .147 deep by 3.000 Diameter                        19.0 cc

KB Silv-O-Lite      S1139          Dish w/4 reliefs                  1.660                       0.975           .075 Deep by 2.260 Diameter                         9.5 cc
Sealed Power       381np          Dish w/4 reliefs                  1.660                       0.975           .097 deep by 2.620 Diameter                        11.7 cc

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FE Technical Forum / Head gasket decision
« on: December 22, 2015, 10:04:29 PM »
So I went to the united engine site and used their calculator with my cam info and come up with all the following head gasket info:
Running 91 Octane, the best we have here, in my 390 Galaxie, What would you go with? These are all with a 12 cc dish. If I go with a flattop it starts out with the .051 gasket at 9.879 static and 8.528 dynamic. These pistons are the 1.759 compression distance.
Changed gears since my last post. 3:70 gears, 29 inch tires, 4 speed

Brand           Compressed Thickness           Gasket Bore          Quench             Static Ratio              Dynamic Ratio
Felpro                        .051                              4.250               .082                    9.255                        7.999

Felpro                        .041                              4.4                  .072                    9.393                        8.116

Cometic                     .040                              4.250               .070                    9.473                        8.184

Cometic                     .040                              4.165               .070                    9.504                        8.210

Edelbrock                  .038                               4.4                  .069                    9.457                        8.171

Mr Gasket                 .038                               4.4                  .069                     9.457                       8.171

Cometic                    .036                               4.4                  .067                     9.501                       8.208

Cometic                    .036                               4.360              .067                     9.516                       8.221

Cometic                    .036                               4.250              .067                     9.553                       8.252

Cometic                    .036                               4.165              .067                     9.584                       8.278

Cometic                    .030                               4.4                  .061                     9.634                       8.321

Cometic                    .030                               4.250              .061                     9.679                       8.359

Cometic                    .030                               4.165              .061                     9.705                       8.381

Cometic                    .027                               4.4                  .058                     9.702                       8.378

Cometic                    .027                               4.250              .058                     9.744                       8.414

Cometic                    .027                               4.165              .058                     9.767                       8.433

Mr Gasket                 .020                               4.420              .051                     9.862                       8.514

Thank you for the help
Carl

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