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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 27, 2024, 07:59:20 PM »
I have to think that the cooler inside the radiator started leaking, and mixing the coolant and ATF, and was unrelated from the transmision "burning up". I can`t think of any situation where the transmission failing could cause that to occur.I have seen several cases where the radiators internal trans cooler failed, and the ATF turned into a "Pepto Bismal" pink milkshake, but had nothing to do with the transmissions condition. My guess is that the cooler just sprung a leak inside the rad.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Water in lifter valley
« on: January 27, 2024, 07:46:55 PM »
Quote from: mike7570 on January 27, 2024, 04:00:48 PM
Found out it’s a plug in the deck of the head to re-align the water passage opening with the Cometic gasket and BBM block.  When heads are milled the edge of the plugs threads were too close to the intake surface and developed a pin hole. Got instruction how to take care of it without pulling the head. Whew!

Not visualizing what you are describing Mike, any chance that you could post a photo or 2?

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Kiwi Classics FE Mustang
« on: January 27, 2024, 09:37:44 AM »
Quote from: TomP on January 26, 2024, 06:45:48 PM
I hate Mustang II suspension for the very problems he shows. Rack site way up high. I saw one at the SEMA show, FE 63 Galaxie with a single stage external oil pump , pan was shallow at the front. I have also seen a dry sump on a pretty stock 302 with exhaust manifolds... all to give more spark plug room.
 So his solution is going to mean the whole tunnel and tranny crossmember needs to move rearward, the air clearer runs into the bracing at the back of the hood and protrudes out the front of the scoop unless the scoop is moved to the back edge. Power brake booster won't fit any more,  steering shaft may foul the oil filter too.

Yeah, I find it amazing that some guys will go to so much work, and money, sticking a Mustang 11 front suspension, in a Mustang, Falcon, Fairlane, etc, to eliminate the shock towers , just to free up some room for header bolts and spark plug changes.  Not to mention that they often install it poorly, so it`s impossible to get the wheel alignment correct. Funny how the 69 & 70  Boss 302s did so well in the Trans Am series, with the stock shock tower setup, including winning the 1970 TA championship. Yes, I have owned a number of factory FE powered Mustangs and Fairlanes, and a couple of 70 Mustangs with 351C 4V engines, and the shock towers absolutely are a PITA when installing headers in the car, and even mildly inconvenient for changing spark plugs, but realistically, how often are most guys actually doing that anyhow? I would much rather be changing the spark plugs on a 428CJ Mustang, than many late model FWD cars , SUVs, or minivans with a V6!

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Anybody have an old BlackJack Headers catalog?
« on: January 27, 2024, 09:23:52 AM »
Quote from: thatdarncat on January 26, 2024, 06:43:58 PM
Here you go Rory, from my 1989 Blackjack catalog











Thanks, Kevin, that is exactly what I was looking for. Any chance you could show the footnote codes? Thanks.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Water in lifter valley
« on: January 27, 2024, 09:12:24 AM »
Mike, you aren`t using the cork end seals for the intake manifold, are you?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 428/C6 no block plate?
« on: January 25, 2024, 05:29:15 PM »
Which 4 bolts? The block plate is just sandwiched between the block and the bellhousing, and is held in position by the dowel pins. The 6 bolts that hold the bellhousing to the block are 7/16 NC, with a 5/8" bolt head, the inspection cover bolts are 5/16" NC, with a 1/2" bolt head, as are the starter bolts.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Anybody have an old BlackJack Headers catalog?
« on: January 18, 2024, 07:26:32 PM »
I was at a buddys engine machine/parts store the other day, and he found a few boxes of brand new BlackJack Ford  headers , still in the box, that have been sitting in his attic for many years. Trying to help him figure out what the applications are for. One set has part number 3603, and are 289-302-351W flanges, the other has 3622, and my guess is 351C/M/400 , likely for a 2 wd PU truck, but not positive. He also has a new set of Hedman headers for a 75-78 302 Mustang 11, if anybody knows anybody looking. Thanks.

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FE Technical Forum / Bellhousing has a weird casting number.
« on: January 18, 2024, 07:19:20 PM »
The FE manual transmission bellhousing that I am currently using on my 59, is the early, long starter version, with only the narrow transmission pattern. What has me confused, is the casting number, as it does not have either the 3 letter "Exx" style prefix that was used in 58 and earlier, the "575" "boxcar" numbering that most of my original 59 engine parts had, or the later, and still in us "B9" C0" "D1" code. The casting number is CAK 6394 C, which doesn`t match any Ford casting system that I am familiar with, and a casting date of 0K4, which is October 4th 1960, for for a 1961 model year vehicle. Anybody familiar with that CAK designation? Thanks.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Electric versus Flex Fan
« on: January 16, 2024, 09:14:15 AM »
Quote from: GerryP on January 15, 2024, 01:13:47 PM
There was a time in the recent past where this fan assembly was the secret weapon:  https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,1993,taurus,3.8l+v6,1138766,cooling+system,radiator+fan+assembly,2181

3,500CFM low speed, 5,000CFM high speed.  And cheap!

Runs with this controller:  http://www.dccontrol.com/Multispeed.htm  Not very cheap at around 100 bucks but solves the question about how you're going to drive the fans and when the come on and off.

A couple hundred for the whole shebang.

It comes down to whether it fits between your engine and radiator.

Gerry, do you know how thick the Taurus fan setup is, between the rad and the electric motor?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam retaining plate bolt question
« on: January 13, 2024, 06:14:46 PM »
Quote from: galaxiex on January 12, 2024, 10:48:59 PM

Factory cam thrust retaining fasteners are not Phillips.
They are PoziDriv.

Call it whatever you want, I have used a Phillips head socket on the factory FE cam thrust plate for close to 50 years without issues, so I have no reason to change what works for me. As for "Pozi Drive", every FE cam thrust plate bolt that I have ever removed, installed, or looked at, had just 4 large slots, just like a Phillips, can not say that I have ever noticed 4 "extra" tiny slots, as in the Pozi Drive illustration  that you posted. Or have any idea what those 4 extra, small slots are intended to do.
As for the thrust plates themselves, I have never found the need to use anything other than the original Ford plates, and again, never an issue in nearly 50 years.







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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam retaining plate bolt question
« on: January 12, 2024, 07:00:25 PM »
Like Jay said, every FE that I have ever worked on, used Phillips head bolts for the cam retainer plate, and I have never felt the need to use anything different. I have the correct sized socket (#4 I believe), and I have never had a problem being able to  torque them to whatever the factory spec in the shop manuals with the correct Phillips head socket.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Ford Adjustable Rockers
« on: January 10, 2024, 06:06:51 PM »
Like some of the others, I have also ran a solid flat tappet cam with factory adjustable rockers, with over .650" lift. t was an old Comp Cam, I believe the exhaust lift was either .678 or .687" lift. That was in the late 70s-early 80s, wasn`t a lot of alternatives back then.Never hurt a rocker arm but did break a few shafts, no end supports back then.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Spark plug thread repair question
« on: January 05, 2024, 06:03:31 PM »
Hard to tell in the photo, but is that the regular 18 mm FE sized insert, or a smaller 14 mm insert? Is it just 1, or all 8 done like that? I have had broken off FE valve cover, and exhaust manifold, bolts, and stripped out rocker stand bolts, but I have never seen a FE spark plug hole damaged.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Starter for 73 truck with headers powermaster didnt work
« on: December 30, 2023, 09:45:06 AM »
Although headers on these trucks does make it a bit of a pain to change the starter, at least be thankful you aren`t driving a Toyota Tundra PU with the 4.7 L V8. Those "clever" Japanese engineers, thought the ideal location was under the intake manifold, which would be the lifter valley on a pushrod engine. And for extra fun, the bolts for the starter don`t go in from the front, nope they go in from the rear, and are buried inside recesses holes in the block, so you can`t see or feel the bolts. Great fun trying to start the bolts, after removing the upper and lower intake manifold/plenum.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: transmission options
« on: December 28, 2023, 11:49:06 AM »
It would be nice if they will make this shorter, Toploader length input shaft  available in a new transmission, rather than buy the trans, pay more for the short input, and then have to tear a new transmission apart to instal it.
And for the guys with other transmissions that say they have no issues shifting their TKO, or Nash/Richmond 5 speeds, just curious how they use their transmissions. If running at the dragstrip, are they lifting off the gas pedal during the shifts, or shifting at WOT, with the gas pedal flat on the floor? When I race my cars, regardless if it`s a Jerico, G Force, Toploader, or even a T5, I shift at WOT, and if any transmision I am considering won`t shift in such a manner, I have no interest in it. The current small input/out in my 4000 pound 59, gets babied of the line, simply because I am worried about breaking it on hard launches, so I slip the clutch a bit at 2000 RPM, and ease into the throttle, which must hurt the 60 foots and ETs considerably (best of 1.80 60 foot, and 12.54 @ 108 MPH so far, thru the mufflers), but once it`s rolling, I lean on it pretty hard.

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