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C8OZ

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2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« on: August 07, 2020, 01:26:13 PM »
I have a set of 6376 Hooker adjustable headers, the 2" version of the 6375 (2.125).
Any idea how much power I'm leaving on the table with the 2" primaries?

I'd like for the build to live quite a while, so I'm okay bringing the peak RPM down some.

These are for a 4.375 x 4.375 Tunnel Port, single Holley 4500, 13.5:1-ish and E85.
Shooting for 3400 pound max, 4-speed, 29" tire, weekend 1/8 mile car, not a max effort racer.

The rest of the specs are tbd, as it's still early. I just hate to take hammer to car and pipes in mockup if these need to stay on the shelf for a smaller CI build.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2020, 01:39:30 PM »
What kind of power do you anticipate making, I've seen tests between 2" and 2 1/8" on a 700hp BBC and the bigger headers were 5hp better.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2020, 01:53:44 PM »
I'd like it to go mid-sixes 1/8-mile and live. I haven't done that with an FE, so I'm making some guesses. But 700 ballpark is my goal depending on how much weight I can drop.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2020, 03:15:33 PM »
Not a hairy difference. Not enough to loose sleep over.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2020, 04:12:47 PM »
  Might not show at all. 2" used to be THE size to use.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2020, 05:30:52 PM »
Does anyone make a stepped, 2 - 2 1/8 header. That might be interesting.
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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2020, 05:34:15 PM »
REF Unlimited will make step headers, custom sized.
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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2020, 05:55:19 PM »
Thanks guys.
A slow project gives me plenty of time to start questioning parts choices. I'll plan on putting the 6376 to use.

I've read that a third version of the Hooker adjustable was stepped 1 7/8, 2, 2 1/8, but I've never seen a set.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2020, 10:29:12 PM »
I think my 390 would prefer the 6376 headers given it's smaller size but these haven't been made in years. All I ever had/have are 6375's and they seem to not hurt performance no matter the cubic inch. I doubt you'll see any difference with your combo. I'm fairly certain the Hooker Race 1 7/8" which I've never seen either were not a step header. Seems the jury is still out on any real benefit on step tubes anyway. Now Hooker doesn't make any of them for some reason.

REF makes some good headers but apparently nothing out of the ordinary. A guy at the track today said he (or no one else for that matter) would build Headers for a 66/67 FE Fairlane with a rear sump pan. He ended up making his own.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2020, 12:58:57 AM »
Here’s my REF 1 7/8 headers, had jet hot coat them. They’re for a 67 Fairlane, he was a pretty cool guy to talk with. His opinion was I could shove quite a bit of power through 1 7/8. We shall see.
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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2020, 01:00:21 AM »
Try again with photo
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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2020, 01:01:57 AM »
Ugh
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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2020, 11:12:33 AM »
Everything I've seen from REF looks top notch. I like that those collectors angle inboard where the Hooker is straight back.

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2020, 09:47:53 AM »
I'm making 575 in a 393C with 1 7/8" tubes so IMHO go with what fits.  You'd not know the difference. 

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Re: 2" primary headers loss vs. 2 1/8
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2020, 10:16:46 AM »
I made 561/595 with 1 5/8"-1 3/4" stepped FPA on my 375 CI Y Block.  Fits '55 Thunderbird. Same headers made over 600 hp on a different engine.  There are a lot of dyno tests that prove the stepped headers work if you actually do back to back testing.  REF is a race header, but he designs them for specific chassis, so they fit SE and SS cars classes as well as street.   Joe-JDC
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