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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: fryedaddy on March 24, 2019, 06:14:17 PM
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well i believe my rear in my comet is about shot.it has the 28 spline axles 4.11 gears. question is what are my options for a rebuild or replacement.can i upgrade to 31 spline and still use my housing,or would i have to change it all to go to 31 spline.or would i be better off buying some better 28 spline axles and swapping the hogs head
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x40WGUtdaLI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x40WGUtdaLI
thats alot of different options but i just want to fix what i have if i can and i wanted to know about changing to 31 spline and still use my rear end thats already in my car.could i buy a 31 spline stump and buy 31 spline axles the same length as my 28s that are in my car now.im a street guy and not into high dollar-high tech stuff.im a simple sob
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https://www.quickperformance.com/
Yes you can keep your housing and run 31 spline axles and gear, make sure your housing is not bent.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x40WGUtdaLI
thats alot of different options but i just want to fix what i have if i can and i wanted to know about changing to 31 spline and still use my rear end thats already in my car.could i buy a 31 spline stump and buy 31 spline axles the same length as my 28s that are in my car now.im a street guy and not into high dollar-high tech stuff.im a simple sob
OK, could you perhaps tell us what you mean by "shot"?
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i noticed a noise, a clanking noise so i jacked up the rearend and when you spin a wheel back and forth it has alot of play and makes a loud clanking noise.and if you keep spinning a wheel it sounds bad.it has a catch in the same spot every time the wheel spins a complete turn.my stump came out of a 63 galaxie 4.11 gear,390 3 2s,4 speed car and has many,many miles on it.im sure its SHOT.
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i noticed a noise, a clanking noise so i jacked up the rearend and when you spin a wheel back and forth it has alot of play and makes a loud clanking noise.and if you keep spinning a wheel it sounds bad.it has a catch in the same spot every time the wheel spins a complete turn.my stump came out of a 63 galaxie 4.11 gear,390 3 2s,4 speed car and has many,many miles on it.im sure its SHOT.
OK, why do you need 31 spline axles, or "better" 28's? Take it apart and see what you got going on. Might be able to just freshen what's there and get another billion miles out of it. 28's aren't all that weak.
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i noticed a noise, a clanking noise so i jacked up the rearend and when you spin a wheel back and forth it has alot of play and makes a loud clanking noise.and if you keep spinning a wheel it sounds bad.it has a catch in the same spot every time the wheel spins a complete turn.my stump came out of a 63 galaxie 4.11 gear,390 3 2s,4 speed car and has many,many miles on it.im sure its SHOT.
OK, why do you need 31 spline axles, or "better" 28's? Take it apart and see what you got going on. Might be able to just freshen what's there and get another billion miles out of it. 28's aren't all that weak.
I HAVE RIGHT AT 500HP,JUST THOUGHT 31 WOULD BE BETTER
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Years ago, I went from a 28 spline 9 inch with an Auburn cone-type limited slip and 3.75 gears, to a 31 spline 4.11 gear center with a Nascar takeout Detroit Locker. I love it. I bought a used Nascar centersection off of Ebay and got some new Moser axles.
I was leery of using a Detroit Locker because you hear how bad they are to live with, but I have not experienced anything that would make me feel that way. It just flat out works.
JMO,
paulie
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i have some leaf springs moving around and may have a broke one,when i hit a bump in the road my right rear makes a loud medal noise like something is broke
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i noticed a noise, a clanking noise so i jacked up the rearend and when you spin a wheel back and forth it has alot of play and makes a loud clanking noise.and if you keep spinning a wheel it sounds bad.it has a catch in the same spot every time the wheel spins a complete turn.my stump came out of a 63 galaxie 4.11 gear,390 3 2s,4 speed car and has many,many miles on it.im sure its SHOT.
OK, why do you need 31 spline axles, or "better" 28's? Take it apart and see what you got going on. Might be able to just freshen what's there and get another billion miles out of it. 28's aren't all that weak.
I HAVE RIGHT AT 500HP,JUST THOUGHT 31 WOULD BE BETTER
OK, you don't have to shout. You could have said that from the beginning.
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I think you need to have the same axle bearing size? 3.062"? Then there are 3.25" and another bigger size? I have the small bearing size.
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PAULIE,thats exactly what i need to do.
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not shouting.im not very good with the keyboard.buy the time i noticed i had cap lock on i already hit enter not shouting at you felony,you are one of my favorite personalites on this site
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Once you go Detroit Locker, you never go back! :) I just bought another 31 spline Nascar Detroit Locker center section for $650 off of Ebay. Usually, they are a bit more.
I can't remember how much the axles cost. I payed more for American made. I hope Moser's still are, but who knows these days.
JMO,
paulie
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... not shouting at you FElony,you are one of my favorite personalities on this site
In that case, your check is in the mail.
Sounds like you just need to unbolt the whole rear and wheel it out from under the car. I know those years that had a 4-speed without staggered shocks tend to wheel hop in a bad way. It would be no surprise that more than one item is frigged.
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... not shouting at you FElony,you are one of my favorite personalities on this site
Sounds like you just need to unbolt the whole rear and wheel it out from under the car. I know those years that had a 4-speed without staggered shocks tend to wheel hop in a bad way. It would be no surprise that more than one item is frigged.
you are right,i just hate to tear it apart. not very good timing.i was going to tune it up and get ready for spring.not leaf spring but springtime
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Between posts I watched this lunchbox video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMmUQvA6gnM
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You can run up to 31 spline axles with no prob with a center that has 2.89 bearing case. If you have 3.06 bearing case you can go with 33 spline and possibly a 35 spline depending on what kind of diff or spool you run. Most 35 spline and any larger will require a case with 3.25 bearings.
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You can run up to 31 spline axles with no prob with a center that has 2.89 bearing case. If you have 3.06 bearing case you can go with 33 spline and possibly a 35 spline depending on what kind of diff or spool you run. Most 35 spline and any larger will require a case with 3.25 bearings.
Thank you. That is what I couldn't quite remember. I was thinking the 3.06" bearing case was the smallest one.
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i dont know about the bearings,whatever came in a 66 comet with a 9 inch rear is what i have
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that a little unfamiliarity with these parts out back is making you a tad gunshy to tackle the job, which is understandable. I might suggest looking for someone, maybe a forum member or whoever nearby, who can assist you with this so it doesn't turn into one of those projects. Or, do what I do, lick the back of a poison toad, grab a wrench and have at it.
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i noticed a noise, a clanking noise so i jacked up the rearend and when you spin a wheel back and forth it has alot of play and makes a loud clanking noise.and if you keep spinning a wheel it sounds bad.it has a catch in the same spot every time the wheel spins a complete turn.my stump came out of a 63 galaxie 4.11 gear,390 3 2s,4 speed car and has many,many miles on it.im sure its SHOT.
Probably the spidergear have seized on the pin and
the rollpin split. And the spidergear pin have rotated
in the differential and whore out the hole oval= Differtial
is junk
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I once had a whore out the hole oval. Dirty, dirty girl.
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You can run up to 31 spline axles with no prob with a center that has 2.89 bearing case. If you have 3.06 bearing case you can go with 33 spline and possibly a 35 spline depending on what kind of diff or spool you run. Most 35 spline and any larger will require a case with 3.25 bearings.
This. I run 31's in a 9" housing with 2.89 bearings and small housing ends. The axles take a special o-ring bearing to fit the small ends and seal. The Strange axles (Mustang) and the Mark Williams (Falcon) are much thicker at the bearing support area than any stock Ford, so well worth the upgrade.
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Guys, with the carrier sourced from a '63, is there a chance that is an Equa-Lok?
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Guys, with the carrier sourced from a '63, is there a chance that is an Equa-Lok?
i dont know if it would id the carrier but there is a big heavy balancer on the yolk and it has a shield or roof over the top and sides,makes it look heavyduty
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Guys, with the carrier sourced from a '63, is there a chance that is an Equa-Lok?
i dont know if it would id the carrier but there is a big heavy balancer on the yolk and it has a shield or roof over the top and sides,makes it look heavyduty
Here's some light reading: http://www.kevinstang.com/Ninecase.htm
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i took the id tag off my carrier,if anyone can decode it, heres what i think it says top row says WBT-CA1 BOTTOM ROW SAYS 4.11 3LD 155
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i took the id tag off my carrier,if anyone can decode it, heres what i think it says top row says WBT-CA1 BOTTOM ROW SAYS 4.11 3LD 155
WBT-CA is the centersection from a ‘63-‘64 full size Ford, 9” with 4.11 gears. Conventional non-locking 4 pinion differential, with the 3.06” differential bearing. “3LD” is the date code ( Year/Month/Week ). “155” is the axle plant code.
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thanks for the info everybody.at this point im wondering whether to see if i can get what i have freshened up or to get another stump
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I would see if there was somebody that had a '63 that might want that carrier, especially with a 4.11 tag on it. Do you still have the one that came in the '66?
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I would see if there was somebody that had a '63 that might want that carrier, especially with a 4.11 tag on it. Do you still have the one that came in the '66?
my 66 came with a 3.25.back in the mid 80s when i used to take it to the strip,i got rid of that 3.25 pretty quick.i swapped it out for a 3.89,and then later when i drove it to work every day i put a 3.50 in it and then i traded gears with the galaxie guy for the 4.11 thats in it now.good idea about finding someone with a galaxie that might want it.i dont know how good it is compared to the later ones but i need to do something
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I would see if there was somebody that had a '63 that might want that carrier, especially with a 4.11 tag on it.
the pinion yolk has a balancer on it.i think its called a daytona or nascar yolk.it came on the 427 and hipo solid lifter galaxie.i saw just the yolk on ebay for 250 bucks.someone out there needs this stump for their rare galaxie build.if i knew someone that wanted it,i would trade for a less desirable stump in good condition.
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My 64 PI have that balancer on the stock 3.50 pumpkin
also a four pinion diff