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FE Technical Forum / Re: Information on Mississippi 427 Fairlane
« on: July 06, 2021, 06:46:16 PM »
Also while I don't dispute that this car may be an original 427 I would point out that the prescence of single piston caliper front disc brakes proves that this car has been modified to some extent over the years since they weren't introduced for another 2 years.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Information on Mississippi 427 Fairlane
« on: July 06, 2021, 06:32:51 PM »
That’s kind of weird since I’ve spent a fairly extensive time with 2 of them on the phone that said exactly the opposite... The fact you stated the cars were built on the production line kind of shows your limited knowledge. The cars (even the 57) were pulled and as assembled as parts became available. Another source noted for a fact in the 60’s ford would pull cars from the assembly line and assemble them as my car has been, Not being R codes (like Ed Terry’s) Z car. Some of these cars do exist and they’re hard to document but were built and are out there. Let me refer you to July 1966 HotRod magazine... So to call it a Rummel story is pretty tasteless. My car isn’t restored, isn’t being sold and isn’t all doctored up with cock n Bull stories. Hard to say likely a fake when you have zero history, knowledge or even inspected the car. One of the unique features on the car stood out as a very unique feature in which helped lean towards the car being a legitimate race car from the day. It’s pretty obvious my car was important enough to call someone and try to debate or discredit it.. So that usually means it peaked your interest enough to make a phone call to Cory... I mean everyone pretty much knows in 67 there was no 6 code for a transmission, but in 68 it was correct for a 4 speed... I’d have thought you would’ve popped on the 2:80 rear ratio...but hey that’s just me..  :D That in itself is humorous because I simply came here to see if the car was known in a certain area. Must’ve ruffled some feathers, otherwise you wouldn’t have bothered Ben...  ;D ;D ;D

Oh and as all of us know... especially ME, all test cars aren’t destroyed... I mean I do own 1 and the Fairlane GTX was one of those cars... So there goes that ironclad theory
A chassis can't be "pulled" from the assembly line unless it has been built there first,if it is assembled on some special jig then it doesn't need to be "pulled" from the assembly line.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Information on Mississippi 427 Fairlane
« on: July 06, 2021, 06:25:11 PM »
Thank you, exactly the point. He has been on the defense about this car without any answering any specific questions.
Without its origin, time slips, residual lettering under a layer of paint it is going to be difficult and or next to impossible to trace its history.

1) If a it is factory Drag console team cars it would not be unusually that a modified pre-production version would be supplied by Ford  to r-code specs by the various Ford vendors (DTS, Holman Moody, Ford X Garage ).
I have one on the 11 factory 62 lightweight Galaxies re bodied to a 63. It is not a R code but a G code and doesn't fall into a production category but is still a 63 lightweight.

2) Is reason there was 57 66's is because Ford Engine Foundry could only supply 57 427's to the Atlanta plant by the required due date. His is not hearsay but Ford interoffice document's I've seen.

3) Press cars usually because of the leed time would be pre production vehicles and not matching engine codes or transmission combinations (example, automatic transmission in in the Phil Bonner 427 Fairlane test).

4) It was not unusual back in the day for race cars to be updated with the next year sheet metal so I wouldn't be concerned about that.

I asked specific questions regarding the holes in the shock towers and contacting Don Antilla without a answer.

I am not trying to slam this car nor am I jealous but in all honesty from the FB pictures and the current separate thread, I haven't seen anything that would convince me that it is a 66 production R-code Fairlane.

Moving on to race history it would be helpful to have a time frame and specific location.
I get it, these cars can be a size able investment and you want to make sure what you buy is a legit vehicle
If I am wrong in my opinion I will gladly apologize in this forum as to any error in my opinion.
As to regards to #4 a former co worker once owned and raced one of the 57 and related to me how the they updated it to 67 appearance and updated to the tunnel port power  in late 1967 and they raced it in that configuration until switching to a Maverick and Pro Stock in late 69 early 1970.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Information on Mississippi 427 Fairlane
« on: July 06, 2021, 03:20:01 AM »
As far as VIN tags being the only source of the VIN that simply isn't the case,the VIN including the 5th digit engine code is stamped into the body panels in multiple places.Depending on the model it can be stamped on the edge of the inner apron,or on the core support for unibody cars and on the firewall/cowl area on fullsized cars.Even the 62 and earlier Galaxies had it stamped into the top of the frame rail.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Information on Mississippi 427 Fairlane
« on: July 06, 2021, 12:15:02 AM »
I think what people are trying to point out is that when Ford was building prototypes it wasn't unusual for them to use a chassis intended for a different powertrain hence they had a different engine code on the VIN tag.The fact that your car has the R code in the VIN implies that it was built farther along in the process possibly after normal production began.The build date in Oct 65 you referenced was clearly after the start of normal 66 production,and I've never seen the 66 427 Fairlanes referenced as 66 1/2's which leads me to believe that they started production of them at or near the beginning of 66 production.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Information on Mississippi 427 Fairlane
« on: July 04, 2021, 03:01:36 PM »
If its a 66 R code Fairlane its one of 56 or 57 and as stated above would have been white.Definitely worth researching.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: A little help with 427 timing marks please.
« on: July 04, 2021, 02:53:13 PM »
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Unfortunately when standing still, idling, elec fan on, it will slowly creep up and eventually overheat, but it takes a lot longer than it did before.

A few more degrees timing and things may be good.

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Ford -and other manufacturers- had a very simple way of dealing with engines overheating in traffic.  They used a thermostatic switch that was plumbed with vacuum advance from both a ported and manifold vacuum source.  When the engine was operating cool enough, the switch used ported vacuum to the distributor.  When the engine began overheating, the thermostat switched to manifold vacuum to increase timing to make the mixture burn in the cylinder rather than the exhaust port.  This switch to manifold vacuum also increased the idle speed, which ran the coolant through the engine faster.
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Depending on when that movie came out,it could have been a a late 406 some of them were built with the dual quad with long exhaust manifolds and not necessarily crossbolted.If the movie was released in 64,it could have been filmed in late 62 early 63.The black paint,adjustable valvetrain and what appears to be the C2AE balancer on the front would support a HP engine.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Variable Flow Gerotor Oil Pump
« on: June 28, 2021, 10:02:54 PM »
This would also be applicable to pretty much any ford distributor driven gerotor oil pump wouldn't it?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Fan Shroud for 66 Galaxie w/352
« on: June 25, 2021, 05:42:51 PM »
As was mentioned earlier make sure you ignition timing is advanced enough, late timing can cause excessive underhood temps.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: best mechanical fuel pump
« on: June 13, 2021, 06:28:18 PM »
I keep forgetting Edelbrock has fuel pumps too.You would think that they tailor them to work with their carbs so that probably would be the best choice.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: best mechanical fuel pump
« on: June 12, 2021, 08:21:31 PM »
Are you just looking for a stock replacement pump for a stock 390,if so whichever chain store has the best warranty.If your looking for a performance type pump,both the Carter and Holley pumps are both rebuildable,just make sure whichever one you pick has the proper pressure rating unless you plan to run a pressure regulator.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: stalling engine
« on: June 10, 2021, 03:47:52 PM »
I agree with the last 2 posts,depending on what ignition you have it could be a coil that gets hot after a while and and dies then after it cools down a little it starts working again.If you have a Duraspark ignition some of the earlier modules would also do the same thing,die all of a sudden and then after cooling for a while start working again.

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Is the survival intake being advertised as a HR like in highrise intake manifold as all performance aftermarket intakes used to be referred as or as an actual HR 427 type port?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Oil fill cap
« on: June 08, 2021, 07:26:57 PM »
Look at the flat piece crimped into the bottom of the cap that locks the cap down and see how wide it is compared to the slot for it in the valve cover also check to see if it has shifted to one side or the other they sometimes do that if the crimp loosens up a little.If so it may be slipping out under acceleration.

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