Been waiting for it

[gregaba]

I knew it was coming and I just saw my first artical on getting the best gas mileage.
Whats next, another GEO Metro for us to enjoy.
Greg

[shady]

I can see the board trembling at Ford. Yeah, the small car market is back and they (Ford) aren't making any.

[turbohunter]

Gotta go to Calif. to pick up my mustang this month. Fuel will cost twice as much at best. Took three days of work to pay for it while I’m out there.
Hah

[FrozenMerc]

I can see the board trembling at Ford. Yeah, the small car market is back and they (Ford) aren't making any.

No shit, It will be interesting to see what they do short of writing Elon a big check.

Guess it may be time to befriend a few restaurant owners and convert the old IDI to run on veggie oil....

[Falcon67]

Yes, the news this AM was full of "tire pressure is important" and "maintain a steady speed on the road".  The later virtually an impossible task with all the truck traffic LOL.  None of it will make - IMHO - a dang bit of difference.  The super trick twin turbo EcoBoost seems to get the same MPG at 75 and 80, and I'll get run over at 70 so there's that.  Nobody slows down out here, even the semi's are running 78~80.  Only the occasional heavily regulated company truck seems to be down in the 68 MPH range.

Also note that the "price set new records" is incorrect.  Highest price during the last surge - 2008 - in Texas was 3.985 for regular.  I bought fuel yesterday for $3.989.  The 2008 Texas max price translated to 2022 dollars would have been $5.20.  So we're not there, not yet.  The average US record for 2008 was $4.11, WSJ says the "new US average record" is $4.17.  The 2008 record in 2022 dollars would be $5.37.  So - no "new record" in monetary terms. Don't forget the poor folks in CA where the gas tax is like $1.18 or some such.  Here it's only 0.20 plus the federal fuel tax.  And a guy in Ca said their media people like to show pictures of some off the wall price, usually from a rip off station 90 miles from anywhere. LOL

[gregaba]

I was running some errors today and some so called reporter on the radio said you could buy a EV to beat the high gas prices.
If he would have done even a little research he would know it cost more to charge a EV to 100% then to fill up your F-150.
Greg

[WConley]

I was running some errors today and some so called reporter on the radio said you could buy a EV to beat the high gas prices.
If he would have done even a little research he would know it cost more to charge a EV to 100% then to fill up your F-150.
Greg

Umm - No.  My Rivian has a 135 KW-hr battery pack.  That will get me about 315 miles.  Electricity here is $0.20 / KW-hr at night when I charge, so you multiply 135 x 0.20 and you get $27.00 for a full charge.  This is a big heavy EV with 835 HP, 4 motors, so it's not terribly "efficient".  Most of the new crossover EV's are a lot more efficient than that.

No way you're filling an F-150 for $27.00  If you're averaging 20 miles / gal and gas is $4.00, that $27.00 will get you about 135 miles in the Ford.

[Heo]

And here i pay 9 dollar for a gallon today.....

[Rory428]

Here in Atlantic Canada, the price for regular 87 octane gas was $1.87 per liter, there are 3.78 liters in an American Gallon, so $7.06 per US Gallon, in Canadian funds.I was talking to a buddy on Canadas West Coast last night, they were at $2.09 per liter, so $7.90 per US Gallon. And Diesel is a fair bit higher still. This year, I have my sights set on going to the FE Race in Beaver Springs, assuming world events allow such a thing, and I just checked Mapquest, from my home in Nova Scotia, to Beaver Springs, is right around 1800 kilometers, one way, a little over 1100 miles each way. ASSuming gas prices do not change between now and September, with my V10 F350 slurping back a gallon of gas every 8 to 8 1/2 miles, my bill for just gasoline will about 2 grand. That said, it would likely be somewhat lower, once I get into the US, and can buy that "cheap" American fuel. But this race has been on my bucket list since the first one was announced, and yeah, I flew in to watch in 2018, and had a great time, but now that I am 3000 miles closer, it`s a "must do". Even though my only FE powered vehicle at this time is the 59, (I still have the FE headers, oil pan, clutch linkage etc for the Fairmont in the shed), I just have to run something with a FE at this event. We ain`t getting any younger........

[gregaba]

I guess i was wrong on the cost. I went back and read the 2 stories and they said it cost more if you use the quick charging stations. Not if you charged at home with the 110V.
I stand corrected.
Greg

[WConley]

Yeah, here in Southern California the DC fast charge stations are over twice as expensive.  That starts getting you to the cost of an equivalent gas-powered rig.

Of course, if you're my brother and you live in Charlotte, you only pay 6 CENTS per KW-hr.  Driving an EV there is almost free.

That reporter also didn't mention the high upfront cost to get into an EV.  My EV pickup lists at about $20K more than a nicely optioned 2022 F-150 Lariat.  That'll buy a lot of gas.  (We got the EV because my wife works for Rivian and we got a subsidized deal.  That made it a no-brainer...)

[428 GALAXIE]

And here i pay 9 dollar for a gallon today.....

I hear you Heo!
I don't bother calculate gallon price because it ain't that simple.
And price of steel,iron and other heavy industry goods is in steep uphill I'll bet I'm out of work by summer ....

[Heo]

And here i pay 9 dollar for a gallon today.....

I hear you Heo!
I don't bother calculate gallon price because it ain't that simple.
And price of steel,iron and other heavy industry goods is in steep uphill I'll bet I'm out of work by summer ....

Lets hope atleast you dont get univited guests again like you got in1940

[gdaddy01]

they could be glowing, let's hope not.

[cjshaker]

When discussing the efficiency of EV's, lets not forget that they are absolutely useless in cold climates. Efficiency drops like a rock. Or how about any type of farm usage? How long would an electric tractor last pulling a huge plow, or tiller? How far does a truck go in Alaska, or any northern states/countries or provinces during the long winter months? There are millions of people who have absolutely no valid use for EV's, but hey, screw 'em, right?