Air Conditioning on SOHC

[My427stang]

Although it isn't a cammer, I have AC & PB on my 489.  The biggest issue with stock is that I am afraid of the pump coming apart at high RPM, eventually I will swap to a modern pump, but the current stock install is clean and I am able to shut it down at different throttle settings with the ECM if I add a relay, which one of these days I'd get to LOL (EFI has been in since 2009 LOL)

On a Cammer, if not using some of the new stuff talked about, I'd hang a Sanden down low and just be sure to make sure you calculate belt speed for max RPM, might lose some low RPM cooling, otherwise, need to remember to shut 'er down if it spins too high when racing

[Dumpling]

Run it (and anything else belt driven) off the differential.

[wcbrowning]

Here are some links for you.

http://www.abspowerbrake.com/ehpm.html

https://epasperformance.com/collections/all-products

https://americanpowertrain.com/electric-power-steering/

https://www.classicretrofit.com/collections/electric-air-conditioning

The electric AC is available as just a compressor with associated ECM, which will probably be most appropriate for your project.  Pair that up with an evaporator from one of the usual companies like Vintage Air, etc.

That’s good to know. Do you have the names of the companies?
I like the idea of keeping the front of the engine clean and uncluttered.

[cammerfe]

I NEED the AC. Land speed racing means sitting in the line to the starter for as much as two hours. Try doing that when the outside temperature is 106 all day. The first time I went, I didn't know how fast I could go, and up to 125, all that's necessary is a helmet and a suggestion of wearing 'natural' (cotton) clothing.

When I went back, a month later, I had a full roll cage, a fire suppression system, and a three layer suit with CarbonX long underwear. I also had a Cool-Shirt and I sat and let the Lincoln idle with the AC on. It's still not altogether comfortable, since getting the 6-way belt system all attached, together with the elbow tethers, severely limits your ability to move. Getting it all hooked-up required the help of my crew chief.

The new car has the front of the engine hard against the bulkhead, and it's hard to get all the auxiliary drive system crowded in. I'll be looking at the all-electric AC. Thanx for the input.

KS

[wcbrowning]

You bet!

I NEED the AC. Land speed racing means sitting in the line to the starter for as much as two hours. Try doing that when the outside temperature is 106 all day. The first time I went, I didn't know how fast I could go, and up to 125, all that's necessary is a helmet and a suggestion of wearing 'natural' (cotton) clothing.

When I went back, a month later, I had a full roll cage, a fire suppression system, and a three layer suit with CarbonX long underwear. I also had a Cool-Shirt and I sat and let the Lincoln idle with the AC on. It's still not altogether comfortable, since getting the 6-way belt system all attached, together with the elbow tethers, severely limits your ability to move. Getting it all hooked-up required the help of my crew chief.

The new car has the front of the engine hard against the bulkhead, and it's hard to get all the auxiliary drive system crowded in. I'll be looking at the all-electric AC. Thanx for the input.

KS

[338Raptor]

Thanks for the info.
This solves my problem.

[Falcon67]

I NEED the AC. Land speed racing means sitting in the line to the starter for as much as two hours. Try doing that when the outside temperature is 106 all day.

LOL, not - that's July through September at the drag strip here.  I'd been 100+ at every race since the start of July.  Track temp 140~155.  Double layer everything in the dragster, still hot even with the windows down. 

[wcbrowning]

You're welcome!

Thanks for the info.
This solves my problem.

[TomP]

Electric power steering is a simple deal. There are units on several late model cars like a Saturn Vue that fit under the dash in the steering column .

There is a good post on the Falcon site (www.tffn.net) but you have to join to see it. Lots of pictures.
https://www.tffn.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=38744

I though some of you might like to see my electric power assisted steering in my 1964 Falcon. Some of you may have come across the Saturn Vue conversions but I think I have found even cheaper and better alternative!

My testing shows that most Japanese branded cars and SUV with electric steering works in Fail-Safe mode if the control unit (ECU) is disconnected from CAN BUS. The effort in Fail-Safe mode feels just right like my 2013 Honda Civic. Not too much and not too little. Just like Hydraulic Steering, if the Electric Assisted Steering completely fails, the steering is back to completely manual mode maintaining car control.

The biggest advantage of using EPS from Toyota, Nissan and Kia/Hyundai is that the EPS works in Fail-Safe. The ECU for the column is mounted remotely and cab be disconnected and removed. The EPS from Saturn Vue and Chevy Cobalt has the ECU that cannot be disconnected and must be de-soldered for remote mount. More importantly there is no Fail-Safe and a 3rd party eBay module is needed in order for it to work. Additionally , people have reported that with after market eBay module, the Saturn EPS does not self center the steering wheel coming out of a turn. You have to make constant corrections.

Below is the list of Car that I know of that has Fail-Safe Electric Steering. Only 3 wire connection. Ignition On, Power and Ground to the Steering ECU. That's it !

2004-2009 Toyota Prius
2009-2013 Toyota Corolla
2006-2011 Toyota Yaris - (With ABS)
2007-2009 Nissan Versa
2009-2012 Nissan Cube
2012-2014 Kia Soul

ECU Part Numbers:

2004-2009 Toyota Prius 89650-47102
2009-2013 Toyota Corolla 89650-02300
2006-2011 Toyota Yaris - (With ABS) 89650-52120 / 52050
2007-2009 Nissan Versa 28500-EM30A / 991-30303
2009-2012 Nissan Cube 28500-1FC0B / JL501-000932
2012-2014 Kia Soul B2563-99500 / 4PSG1312 / FPSG1312

The output shaft on Toyota is little larger than the rest and therefore the Borgeson 312500, 11/16 36 X 3/4 smooth bore weldable coupling should fits nicely. This couple fits the others as well. The Kia EPS is the biggest and appears to be most heavy duty. The Prius & Corolla EPS are very easy to find at salvage yards so this is the best bet. I picked up these EPS for testing for $35 each at my local pic-a-part

Note: As with any modification, there are risks. This post is intended to show how I did my modification. Use it at your own risk!

[338Raptor]

I already have a power rack that came with my TCI front suspension kit.  I would need an electric assist rack unit to replace the TCI power rack and pinion instead of a steering column assist unit designed to work with a stock steering box. 

The TCI rack and pinion unit is from a 89-95 LX Mustang. (2.5 turns lock to lock)

[Leny Mason]

Hi I am looking into electric A/C for My Comet, with a supercharger there is even less room, My power steering pump is hooked to the alternator  and I hope it works I bought it from Henry's Nephew,
 

[338Raptor]

Sounds interesting.  Who’s Henry’s Nephew?

[falcongeorge]

I sincerely hope not! Same deal with power steering and power brakes on a Cammer… that's what 460's are for.

With today's small A/C compressors (look at newer Corvettes for example) there would be room to mount it under the right side by the alternator but it's the principle of it.

Bam! ^^Right there.