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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2015, 01:09:20 PM »
It was wet yesterday and cold, I was the only guy with an FE Mustang running the local autocross. I dropped 6 sec over 6 runs. Got a trophy too , only guy in my class LOL, CAM T was my class. I got zero negative comments and provided some entertainment for those present.

My car has a better voice than mos of the others too.lol
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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2015, 02:02:38 PM »
That's the beauty of a Fox body Mustang. IMO it makes sense to race, thrash, beat on a car you are not "in love" with. If it tags the wall you just hang new sheet metal on it and keep on going. If you drop a wrench on the fender, no biggie, fix the dings in the off season. I would not risk wadding up my 60 or 61 Starliner as that would most likely be the end of the car as body parts and SS trim are next to impossible to find and if found are worth their weight in gold. I feel the same about my 2 Fairlanes. If I were ever to get back into racing it would be with a car that is not a collector's item or one that I was in love with.

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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2015, 03:29:38 PM »
X2.  I am seriously considering using my LX coupe for a FE transplant, and even setting it up where I can swap in a Y-block for some "shock" value.  Take it to car shows and see how many people will think it is a shrub when they see the headers and distributor.  LOL   Joe-JDC
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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2015, 12:14:32 AM »
I'm a Ford guy. (period) and lately I have done a lot of research on Ford vs Chevy
  I think what Ford has always run up against is 1. Marketing and 2. deep pockets.
GM don't forget was 88 billion in dept when "we" bailed them out.
 I get a little pissed when I watch these auctions and the announcer says
chevy big block.
below is a Ford vs Chevy match up. not olds, buick, Caddy... back in the day they
each ran mostly separate operations, not like later in the 70's..
Ford, first mass produced v8
Ford first OHV V8,
Ford First Big Block, FE 
Ford first 427 in 63 pre dates both chevy 427 and Chrysler 426 for street
Ford largest Big Block  460 in 66.
The largest chevy engine in 58 was a 348, while you could have a  352 Ford..
the Great FE series CID ran from 332-428  chevy  396\427\454
you could build a 390 401HP in 61 with tri power intake.  390\375hp factory
you could get a 352\360 factory in 61.
the FE was the most versatile of any engine built, when you consider the FT series.
and last check out this page
  http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/hrdp-1001-muscle-car-engine-shootout/
So Ford is out of racing again. Leaving Ford fans with no one to support,
what happening with John Force? How about the (nascar) guys. not that
I follow nascar, too many rules, thought racing was racing. thought it was stock
cars and over the counter parts.
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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2015, 12:46:49 AM »
I'm a Ford guy. (period) and lately I have done a lot of research on Ford vs Chevy
  I think what Ford has always run up against is 1. Marketing and 2. deep pockets.
GM don't forget was 88 billion in dept when "we" bailed them out.
 I get a little pissed when I watch these auctions and the announcer says
chevy big block.
below is a Ford vs Chevy match up. not olds, buick, Caddy... back in the day they
each ran mostly separate operations, not like later in the 70's..
Ford, first mass produced v8
Ford first OHV V8,
Ford First Big Block, FE 
Ford first 427 in 63 pre dates both chevy 427 and Chrysler 426 for street
Ford largest Big Block  460 in 66.
The largest chevy engine in 58 was a 348, while you could have a  352 Ford..
the Great FE series CID ran from 332-428  chevy  396\427\454
you could build a 390 401HP in 61 with tri power intake.  390\375hp factory
you could get a 352\360 factory in 61.
the FE was the most versatile of any engine built, when you consider the FT series.
and last check out this page
  http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/hrdp-1001-muscle-car-engine-shootout/
So Ford is out of racing again. Leaving Ford fans with no one to support,
what happening with John Force? How about the (nascar) guys. not that
I follow nascar, too many rules, thought racing was racing. thought it was stock
cars and over the counter parts.
 Best
I admire your enthusiam but a couple of corrections are needed. 460 [385 series] was not available until 1968 and in Lincolns only. 429 was available in the Thunderbird only in 68 as well. 352/360 HP was replaced with the 390/375-401 HP as the only high performance option in 61. 352 in 61 was a grocery-getter 220 HP 2V. If you want to match engine familys with Chevy then the 348-409 427 W engine would be the best comparison rather than the 396-427-454 as the "Rat" motor was not released to the public until mid 1965. The FE and the Chevy W engines were both released in 1958 [model year] And for the record the W engine was less than successful in NASCAR as it was better suited as a low rpm truck engine. As you might have guessed I'm an old guy that was there when most of this stuff was going on and the Chevy bias is nothing new but it still pisses me off.     

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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2015, 08:35:52 AM »
With the mention of NASCAR, I used to be a big fan back from the early 60's and into the 70's.  In the mostly "run what you brung" days when loosly supported rules, various displacements and room to operate were king it pitted savvy race teams and truly talented drivers against each other and factory backing was as much for pride as it was sales (well, allegedly anyway ;).

Now I can't even watch it.  It's a total yawn fest with the teams whose pockets reach clear to China and the most wind tunnel time being the perennial victors.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2015, 01:40:04 PM »
Here you go Jay. This is a Dec 1963 copy of Speed & Custom, guy has Holman & Moody swap in a Ford 427 into a NEW '63 Stingray. It's about a 7 page article detailing the build. I can make you a copy in case you want to build a "Tribute" version  ;D

Just think, this car could still be out there. Most likely won't be a barn find though, with a Ford motor in it it probably still runs  ;D





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Re: O/T rant its cold and we can't race.
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2015, 04:53:04 PM »
. So guess what 350's with more torque would come out of the hole faster than a 289. I used to watch it happen as some 289's were fairly fast. Displacement makes torque you know that probably more than anyone else.
 

Phil, its still too cold to race but I have had many 350's for lunch with my 289
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