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FE Technical Forum / Re: Best starter for 68' 390 Mustang with FPA headers?
« on: September 29, 2016, 12:21:39 AM »
Hey Jay do you have any proof of that?................................

Re: "I've had good luck with the Powermaster XS Torque starters, although they don't always engage all the way into the flywheel.  I like Robb Mc starters also, have two of them, but I've had to have them rebuilt a couple of times because the sprag has gone out.  Granted, though, this is on a 13:1 585" engine, so I'm pushing the envelope there."


            I was expecting your reply after feeling your frustration at Drag Week with the R-MC's two years ago....  Seriously about: " the Powermaster XS Torque starters not always fully engaging" ------------- can you please elaborate on that please?.........................

            I've got one ready to install.................maybe more than just grease it well and install it?

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You guy's are terrific! Thank You especially thatdarncat for doing the web searching/links
               Bothers me the reproduction mounts could sit differently and suddenly I have header clearance issues or clutch linkage issues etc..
 I know, Murphy's Law, mine will show up the day after I get another set...

My Marine 427SO's are the real deal (nothing,nada,zilch center oiler at all)
 I've only heard of one other pair of true side-oiler Chris Craft 427's like mine in somebody's hands.  Oddly I guess, I have never seen a sideoiler block drilled  as a center oiler.

               I'll just keep looking for mine and keep in mind where I can get replacement.

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...............Funny I was thinking if "replacement's" are made and if they were, how much I'd trust Chinese stampings and bolts deep down ----

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In the event I can't find where in the heck I stashed my original plates, what other vehicles have the same 390GT/428CJ motor plates beside Mustangs and Cougar's? ...........

    I don't know if they are rare or not.


Of course I have a side-oiler and need to massage/trim one side FWIW

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FE Technical Forum / Old video of two marine 427s being set free
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:22:49 AM »
This vid's ancient 2012... but cool regardless due to its contribution to the Marine FE 427's lore.

 I have long wondered if the saw stunt toasted that chainsaw's blade on ( I presume) the Chris Craft utilized brass screws?....

  To me a SAWZ-ALL with demolition blade would have been a more proper tool for the job?..................

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             I purchased my pair from a guy I met at a Fun Ford Weekend (he had them at FFW where they didn't sell).  I still have my pair of genuine marine c8AE-A casting number 427 Side Oiler's that came out of a big Chris Craft (usually they are drilled as Center Oilers as most know) My SO blocks also have  reliefs machined into the top of the bores to clear I suspect the 427 High Riser and 427 Tunnel Port heads big valves?............The lifter galley's were plugged with hammer'd in steel pins to stop oil flow - solids.

           
     ======   Interesting notes: the two inboard valve covers (in video) are the tall "Pent-Roof" versions, while the two outboard valve covers are the plain-Jane Power By FORD automotive style versions == With two marine motors I ended up with one pair (oil filler/PCV/baffle equipped) unique Marine Pent-Roof* valve covers and it looks like this "saw-meister" did to.  I'm fairly sure the vid shows this at 4:40.


      A major problem of getting the marine 427s is the cost of disposing of the engine-less hull...



* which just so happen to be the ones the potential new boat's owner would have seen if he looked into the engine bay -- much more difficult to see the outboard VCs  -- plain POWERED By FORDs . So was it a clearance to hull issue or simply cheaper valve cover nobody would see anyway?....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRDV8TuVciU


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FE Technical Forum / Like info on variations in Long Pressure Plates
« on: September 25, 2016, 03:40:57 PM »
I've actually got a collection of 11" and 11-1/2" NOS, Rebuilt and lightly used pressure plates, matching big-spline discs and steel flywheel I will run that accepts both 11" and 11-1/2". It's surprising how much variation there are in the heights of the fingers between the different plates. Some have the counter weights on the outside of the fingers/arms (what exactly and how well do those work?) .... It seems like you could hold the clutch pedal down and feel variation in pressure by revving up the motor?..... .
   My clutch linkage has the production FE Mustang clutch linkage components that have pretty much all been reinforced to prevent flexing. The adjuster rod between the Z-arm and throw-out fork has a significant spread on adjustment but it seems to me like it always was adjusted toward the long end of the adjuster.

  Any tips or considerations on what to run with?

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil filters
« on: September 21, 2016, 07:41:36 PM »
Richard 125psi COLD is oblivious to HOT but the 67 427 FoMoCo shop manual lists the oil pressure as 40-55psi @ 2000rpm HOT

            man I am wondering if that is some serious torque on the distributor drive gear & pin?




     





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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil filters
« on: September 20, 2016, 04:34:28 PM »
Re: ".............. but the multi-billion dollar company I work for chooses to use Baldwin filters exclusively on our engines."
---------------------------------10 Points Drew!----------------------
  Exactly that's the kind of filters (for large engines etc) that Baldwin Manufactured in Nebraska. 
Two things:
 I'll never forget some poor woman that was doing a single operation on each filter, her body was bent over doing so. I'm thinking about her aching back. (production Mgt) .The small "press" could have been  simply elevated and she would been able to stand straight up. Almost all the filter manufacturing plants I ever visited were ripe with mundane, boring, mindless and repetitive operations.
     The other thing I recall at Baldwin was the "cotton waste" used to fill the large "sock" filters as Drew mentioned used on the large diesels. I was fucking horrified there were nut shell pieces, saw dust, grain husks and every kind of scrap cotton material known to man in large mounds on the floor to stuff the sock type filters.

     Kind of strange but the parent company that owned Baldwin owned a HEPA filter company in Penn.  Within months I flew in their jet to tour both plants -- night and day in a way and the same thing in others.  Here I was having been trained on and witnessed state of the art micro-filtration filters actually being manufactured in clean-rooms.   Then seeing the floor sweepings that go into sock filters....... Hey you stuff a pillow real hard into a tube and let oil drip through it -- it's potentially going to come out very clean....It's not going to flow fast!

               So for you guys that want the micron of auto-oil filters ---- I'm sorry that  automotive-oil filters all use a multi-pass test, meaning you flow the lube through over and over before you sample and "determine" the ratings. On top of that they use crazy beta numbers that further allow them to pull a figure out of their asses. No wonder you don't need absolute filters in a car engine. They work fine with about a 25-50 micron absolute filter.

     Seriously=========      I meant it when I mentioned cutting back on or adding more media exponentially alters a filters performance ---the OPs wanting to use the short version gives me cramps.  -My 427 FEs going to be running dual parallel FoMoCo FL1 sized filters on a remote head.
   To give you a hint of the nature of adding more or less media -- JNHO I'd say it's reasonable that an automotive filters filter's efficiency will nearly drop the filters performance/micron rating by a third to a  half.
  NOTICE: I did not bother offering up my preferred brand(s) and models of those brand(s). Because I find it useless to even try to argue with "filter experts" that don't have a clue about elementary filtration.

     
           

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WOWZER WOWZER
   Harland Sharp ROCKS!

    How many point nuts are on the adjusters 6 or 8?_______
------------------6------------------
  --- send them back and we'll replace them

   

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  Re: Do you have a motive behind the questioning?


 Nuck.......... Nuck........Nuck.... Why Certainly..............


My 427's finally getting close to together (custom pushrods this week) and to be dropped into my 4spd "Bullitt"  S-code
    I'd like to know what it takes to float the Hyd Rollers





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Thank You Gentlemen:

 But Re: "If you have clear evidence you will sometimes see a corresponding +/-5psi drop in oil pressure as the parts separate."


Just checking because I have a sideoiler that is oiling my rocker shafts through the stands - not the pushrods, as numerous exotic rocker support systems do.


   I can see the both the top and bottom pushrod tips loosing oil if they were oiling but production FEs and my side-oiler feed oil through the stands.


 

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I noticed at the Amelia Island Concours d’Elegance a Dan Gurney driven FORD GT listed Ed Pink as the engine builder. I screwed up by not going to the discussion at Amelia Island Concours d’Elegance:   "The Power Brokers seminar"    that featured as one of the speakers Ed Pink.   I recall Barry R saying something like "Ed's forgotten as much as I know in total about building FEs". So anyway perhaps a copy of The Great FE Intake Comparo, video of your shop  and Drag Week's SOHC may be a great door openers to get yourself a discussion with the master...

http://edpink.com/about-us


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmvTnUSMhk

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Obviously a collection of shattered needle bearings in the bottom of the pan and it sounding like a real loose solid-cam is to late after the fact....................

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil filters
« on: September 18, 2016, 08:58:56 PM »
You guys are great entertainers when it comes to filters at least to retired filter peddlers like me. I've been flown to (via corp jet) and gone all through Baldwin's lube, fuel and hydraulic "filter plant". Left no doubt and they confirmed Baldwin makes the large, heavy duty and industrial filters they simply sub-out all the filters common to the automotive market (ultra competitive).
         This thread starts right off searching for recommendations on a shorter spin-on filter.  You can't have your cake and eat it to.  Odds are great there will be less filter media in a shorter filter.  Unfortunately increaseing the amount of media EXPONENTIALLY and directly improves the performance of the filter in every measurable way that filters are rated.  Contamination capacity , restriction, flow:differential pressure, and surprisingly even the sizes of particles captured etc..  Conversely decreasing media does the opposite of increasing it in all aspects.
      For the life of me I find it hard to comprehend why "laymen"  get into such elaborate discussions on both oil and to a lesser extent air filters while they don't even put forth a tenth of that effort discussing  gaskets, oils, carbs, headers, mufflers, tires, gears, pistons, cams etc.. I've sold over $25 million worth of filtration and get educated on filters all the time by laymen. I'm especially amused by the never ending hoards of snake-oil filter advertisers.... you know the ones that say: filters down to, filters as small as, increases HP & Fuel Mileage etc.
                        I was requested to do a speech for a group of ASHRAE engineers on antimicrobial treated filter medias. One engineer came up after I'd talked and said he liked my using the: "It filters down to a half-micron and so does a chain link fence if you find a half micron particle somewhere on it.'


             
             

             
         
   

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D'oh! thank you will be on my call list this week

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