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FE Power Forums => FE Technical Forum => Topic started by: bobb428 on May 11, 2021, 05:14:22 PM
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In my opinion, the coolest class out there for real Ford Performance!
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yep,one of the best "budget" classes.its amazing what kind of power they can get in the 427 hi risers and 428 cjs and stay within the rules!i was hooked on calverts fairlane and his 68 1/2 cobra jet car.but theres many more nice fords in that class.
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I have been a big fan of Stock and Super Stock since I started drag racing in the mid 70s. I even got to enjoy some of the NHRA Stock experience (setting a NHRA record, doing engine teardown in the pits for setting the record, getting disqualified for combustion chamber volume being 4/10s of one cc too small, during the teardown !, running NHRA National events, as well as divisional meets, eventually setting the NHRA record a couple more times, while passing teardown.) It was a lot of fun, and pretty cool racing against some of the West Coast big name racers. Budget didn`t allow a 428CJ Mustang, had to settle for a 85 Mustang 5.0 in M & N/S. Ran Stock from 2003 thru 2014, and if one of my lottery tickets ever comes thru, I would love to do it again.
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I'm a pretty big fan, ran super street then super gas with FE mustangs. Throttle stop racing got a bit boring to watch and most of those guys are now running 9.90's in the 160-170mph range.
Took some time off and slowly put together parts for a stock eliminator FE, going to build it as a '67 Shelby clone. One thing for sure it's as expensive as everyone says if you want to run pretty far under the index.
I know I'm spending at least twice as much as the super gas car to go slower, I just hope I'm far enough under the B/SA index to justify it. (Indy is on the bucket list!)
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Without a doubt, I prefer to watch these classes run over any others. They are the ones making the most out of factory stuff, or at least mostly factory stuff. I wish I had the means to play, but those are out of my pay grade. I can't imagine the effort needed to maintain and travel like some of those guys do. They must have jobs where they can take any time off they want. And understanding all the rules is something that, it seems to me anyway, requires a 4 year degree..lol
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Stock & Super Stock are my favorites. It’s always been amazing what they can accomplish within the restrictive rules they have. Most people don’t realize when casually watching them what is involved.
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These classes are real racing no matter what you drive. And yes its great that there are alot of great Fords out there. And no rats either its like a car show.
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7707 68 Mustang A/S
Cobra Jet running lite?
They seemed ,back in the 80’s to be C,D and maybe E cars if heavy.
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7707 68 Mustang A/S
Cobra Jet running lite?
They seemed ,back in the 80’s to be C,D and maybe E cars if heavy.
Weight breaks have change'ed a LOT in 40yrs!!!!
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Best thing nhra has real racing.
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Some SS Cobra Jets
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Awesome cars and lots of nice pictures. Thanks for sharing.
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Glad to see you on here Bob. Always love the pictures you share.
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Thanks.
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Excellent photography! I see the last 2 cars (68 mustang and 67 Fairlane) both have the same NHRA number? Driver sell one of his cars and replace it with another?
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My stock eliminator, "not so plain jane"
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How many of these guys use Blair ,,Brent,, Barry for thre motors does anybody know.
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How many of these guys use Blair ,,Brent,, Barry for thre motors does anybody know.
Blair certainly is well known for his Stock and Super Stock FEs, being a specialized market, I am not aware of anybody using Barry or Brent for such engines.
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Blair, Kuntz and Line are the only ones that comes to mind and Line is just Stock I thought . I’m not sure who does Ponds stuff ?
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Blair, Kuntz and Line are the only ones that comes to mind and Line is just Stock I thought . I’m not sure who does Ponds stuff ?
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Pond & Whitney do their own. Eric Jones does Calvert & Pauleys now. Aldon Miller also does a lot of machine work on the West Coast FE's.
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Excellent photography! I see the last 2 cars (68 mustang and 67 Fairlane) both have the same NHRA number? Driver sell one of his cars and replace it with another?
Neil will always have his Fairlane. He built the coupe but sold it and replaced it with a 2008 Mustang.
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Here's Thor:
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That sweet Earl! Glad Thor is helping you out!
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Didn't Thor have a Cougar of his own he was trying to sell at one point?
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Wow you carried them a car length after the tree. Sweet. There’s a lot of nice cars, this racing is real racing. Can’t say enough.
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Didn't Thor have a Cougar of his own he was trying to sell at one point?
I don't think Thor will ever sell that Cat!
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I am not knocking Blair or any other FE engine builders on here, but it seems that a lot of guy's don't realize that there is a lot of talented FE racers/builders out there that do there own programs! I have heard positives & negatives about all the known name builders out there. The fast cars, are always going to be the guy that put the most work in! A engine builder is that! He is not the guy that puts it all together and invest's the time to run records! Very few records can be attributed to a engine builder!
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Well I agree there is a lot of other work that goes with it. Carb adjustments suspension work distributor work different takeoffs etc. It is nice to know if all the machine work is done right so the combination is reliable. I was very happy with Barry’s shortblock but the tuning is what got me my fastest times. I would think Blair would understand since he’s been there.
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Well I agree there is a lot of other work that goes with it. Carb adjustments suspension work distributor work different takeoffs etc. It is nice to know if all the machine work is done right so the combination is reliable. I was very happy with Barry’s shortblock but the tuning is what got me my fastest times
You will always have a different opinion's on machine work, clearances and so forth.
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Pretty sure if you check the fast FE Stocker and S/S racers in recent years, you will find more racers using Blair Patrick engines than Kuntz or Craft these days.
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Didn't Thor have a Cougar of his own he was trying to sell at one point?
I don't think Thor will ever sell that Cat!
No I have never tried to sell it ever. I did have a guy offer me 80K for it at a race a couple years ago, and I was dumbfounded, didn't know what to say, just said I have had it for over 40 years and built pretty much everything on it, and it wasn't for sale and I wasn't finished with it. He said it looked like it was working just fine to him. Then he offered me 100K. I said well it isn't worth that but the answer is the same. I have scratched my head a few time on that one, probably should have taken it???
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Phil Carpenters original 135 now semi restored by his son Marc.
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Didn't Thor have a Cougar of his own he was trying to sell at one point?
I don't think Thor will ever sell that Cat!
No I have never tried to sell it ever. I did have a guy offer me 80K for it at a race a couple years ago, and I was dumbfounded, didn't know what to say, just said I have had it for over 40 years and built pretty much everything on it, and it wasn't for sale and I wasn't finished with it. He said it looked like it was working just fine to him. Then he offered me 100K. I said well it isn't worth that but the answer is the same. I have scratched my head a few time on that one, probably should have taken it???
Same boat as Thor! I have thought about it and I know several guy's that would snatch mine up but these cars become a part of our souls! Money is great but I couldn' Imagine being out here in the garage without her next to me!
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Nice pictures as always Bob! Earl got some nice ones too. I kind of like the pictures from the pits going to the lanes.
Earl and Kay were the masterminds behind the stocker, I came along late to the party and it was working pretty good already. I have made a few changes but nothing major. It almost works too good on the launch, I have to tie the front end down and leave at a lower RPM to not wheelie so high. I always shift into second before it ever starts to come back down. Have tripped the 60 clocks several times on the back tire. It sure is fun to drive. I can get it .800+ under the index but not no full second like some can do.
I will post a few more pictures I have.
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Great pics Thor!
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A couple of those look a lot like pacific raceway. Great looking launch.
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Hopefully this one will be out next year..
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Gorgeous car there HR427. That will be great to see out and about
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Now that is Bad Ass!!!! What class does that fit in now?
Hopefully this one will be out next year..
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Thanks fellas. It'll be a stick too, g101a.
It fits A/B/C
;D
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She’s Purdue HR 427
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Fantastic looking Galaxie! What NHRA division will you be racing it in ?
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Thanks Rory, Division 1.
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Cool, I recently moved from Div.6 to Div.1, so hopefully I will get to see it sometime in the near future. A racer up here in Eastern Canada bought John Calverts 64 Thunderbolt replica Stocker a couple of years ago, he is hoping to have it track ready soon.
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Div 1 is has always been Stock/SuperStock heaven. Lots of killer door cars in the northeast.
Come to a divisional race here it is unreal. There is one at Numidia PA next weekend.
Ron.
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Ron, I raced at the NHRA National Open in Miramichi New Brunswick last weekend. So far the Canada/US border is still closed, so I currently can`t go to any US races yet, but it certainly is in the plans. Hoping to be able to make the Beaver Springs FE reunion, if the borders are open by then. The only Ford stockers at Miramichi were small blocks, a 351C, and a newer Cobra Jet. Only FE there was a 69 Torino 428CJ on the Sunday bracket race.
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You should attend a Div7 end of year Vegas race! That's a awesome event! More FE cars in 7 than the rest!
Div 1 is has always been Stock/SuperStock heaven. Lots of killer door cars in the northeast.
Come to a divisional race here it is unreal. There is one at Numidia PA next weekend.
Ron.
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Another Galaxie stocker
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Nice 63 is my favorite year.