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Title: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 02, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
On the endangered species list.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/1972-ford-pinto-factory-air/6601398246.html
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: turbohunter on June 02, 2018, 04:07:54 PM
LOL
Two words
Gapp Rousch

And I won’t be posting a pic of it ;D
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: machoneman on June 02, 2018, 04:17:20 PM
On the endangered species list.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/1972-ford-pinto-factory-air/6601398246.html

Hah! Only a real dummy would buy that car!!!

LOL! It's a steal for a chrome bumpered Pinto.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 02, 2018, 04:21:15 PM
LOL
Two words
Gapp Roush

I feel a 9000 rpm 289 behind my rusted zipper.

"...the rest of the interior is baked." Exactly what they said last time I went in for neuroimaging.

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And I won’t be posting a pic of it ;D

I think the the beefsteaks that pounded me this morning were the same guys Jay sent out last time. I kinda blacked out so I'm not sure. Boy, this posting business is rough.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 02, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
On the endangered species list.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/1972-ford-pinto-factory-air/6601398246.html

Hah! Only a real dummy would buy that car!!!

Exactly why I'm interested in it.

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LOL! It's a steal for a chrome bumpered Pinto.


Think I can flip it on eBay?
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: Heo on June 02, 2018, 05:09:53 PM
Admit it you know you neeeeeed it you need it real bad ;D
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: machoneman on June 02, 2018, 05:55:55 PM
Think I can flip it on eBay?
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Nawh! Make it look like G&R's Cleveland engined Pro car or Glidden's or Dyno's. Trick paint, biggs and littles, a modern 460 CID Ford Racing Winsor short, a 'C' piston swap, with big intake 230-240 cc ports ala' the great flowing Aussie 'C' style heads, 9" rear, 5-speed tranny and more!

Watch this vid and you'll do it!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRb2LuWXzWY

Hey, spend some cash, eh? Can't take it with you now can you?  LOL!
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: plovett on June 02, 2018, 10:27:42 PM
I was thinking a 7000 rpm solid lifter 289 or 302 with a T5 and 4.11 gears.  Call it the "Photon".  Or maybe "Pintophetamine"?

JMO,

paulie
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: TomP on June 03, 2018, 05:58:38 PM
I had a 72 Runabout like that. Solid lifter 289 and Toploader (this was a couple years before T5's came out) so only 3.55 gears. No air... actually no heater. The interior was just fiberglass buckets and a 6 point .090" wall roll bar. Weighed 2300lbs with me in it and would easily lay waste to all the fast cars but I never ran it at the street races afraid of losing my license which i needed for work. I ran it all the time in private on various roads. I suspect it ran low 11's or high 10's but there was no local strip back then.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: Barry_R on June 03, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
Really, really like that thing.
Took my driver test in a 72 4 speed Pinto.
Wonder if an aluminum 482 would fit...???
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 03, 2018, 08:02:30 PM
I had a 72 Runabout like that. Solid lifter 289 and Toploader (this was a couple years before T5's came out) so only 3.55 gears. No air... actually no heater. The interior was just fiberglass buckets and a 6 point .090" wall roll bar. Weighed 2300lbs with me in it and would easily lay waste to all the fast cars but I never ran it at the street races afraid of losing my license which i needed for work. I ran it all the time in private on various roads. I suspect it ran low 11's or high 10's but there was no local strip back then.

Bitchin'! I was just now thinking about this guy I knew here in AZ in the 90's with an early Pinto 302 swap. I think it was a tight fit; he had to diddle with the radiator location or put the fan up front or both. At some point he picked up a much cleaner '76-ish Pinto and had a much easier time of relocating that 302.

Of course, I had completely forgotten the '74 Mustang II that is languishing in the back of my old house. A little bigger and heavier than the Pinto, but I think an easier project that I'll never do. All I lack is a rear sump pan. Will a Cleveland fit in? Who knows. Dyno Don?

So many tribute cars in the making. So little motivation.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 03, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
Really, really like that thing.
Took my driver test in a 72 4 speed Pinto.
Wonder if an aluminum 482 would fit...???

I wonder if there are any weirdo Pinto fanatics that would consider it heresy to hack up a factory 4-speed A/C '72? I mean, I understand that kind of thing, really. If I buy it, what do you have to trade?
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 03, 2018, 08:31:21 PM
Really, really like that thing.
Took my driver test in a 72 4 speed Pinto.
Wonder if an aluminum 482 would fit...???

I wonder if there are any weirdo Pinto fanatics that would consider it heresy to hack up a factory 4-speed A/C '72? I mean, I understand that kind of thing, really. If I buy it, what do you have to trade?

Allow me to answer my own question. http://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/71-73-pinto-2-0-engine/    A Pinto forum. Sure. Naturally.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 05, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
So to amp myself up to score this car, I did what most guys in this forum would do. That's right, I did vocal recreations of a 10,000 rpm small block running through the gears whilst in the shower. Great acoustics! My delivery was so fierce and awesome that the cat came running in with the First Aid kit clamped in his little jaws.

However, a V8 swap for that car seems to require parts not easy to find any more. Plus, I don't know anyone that can tub it. So I talked myself out of it. Still for sale, so I step aside to let you foaming mongrels fight over it. Am I not kind?
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: TomP on June 05, 2018, 11:21:53 PM
I won't ask what you were shifting.  :o


The rad is no issue nowadays. In 1980 I used a Monza rad with the inlets moved. 65 289 water pump and moved the rad ahead of the support. Nowadays i'd use the short Explorer timing cover and water pump and a narrow aluminum rad.
 I had the Herbert and Meek headers that sweep up and forward and dump ahead of the crossmember. No cutting but underhood heat buildup was a problem. It was my daily driver and only car for a couple years. Rain, snow, whatever. Got very good mileage with first a C90X cam and Cobra Intake then with a Crane solid and Torker. It had domed Jahns pistons making 12 to 1 compression and the heads were ported but still used the 1.78 valves on the first engine. I got away with 94 octane gas because it was never under much load. The tires would spin before bogging.

That was a fun car but having $22,000 dollars (in early 80's bucks, like a million now!) "invested" made it impossible to sell when everyone else's  $1000 V8 Pinto for sale was a $300 car with a $200 mid 70's smog 302. It meant having to pass on a 66 427 Fairlane and a 70 GT500 that came with a 428CJ still in it running and a complete 427 SOHC that he discovered won't fit.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 12:54:59 AM
I won't ask what you were shifting.  :o

Hey, when you gotta reach the high notes you use whatever resources you have at hand. That said, I discourage using Lava soap at any rpm whatsoever.

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The rad is no issue nowadays. In 1980 I used a Monza rad with the inlets moved. 65 289 water pump and moved the rad ahead of the support. Nowadays I'd use the short Explorer timing cover and water pump and a narrow aluminum rad.
 I had the Herbert and Meek headers that sweep up and forward and dump ahead of the crossmember. No cutting but underhood heat buildup was a problem. It was my daily driver and only car for a couple years. Rain, snow, whatever. Got very good mileage with first a C90X cam and Cobra Intake then with a Crane solid and Torker. It had domed Jahns pistons making 12 to 1 compression and the heads were ported but still used the 1.78 valves on the first engine. I got away with 94 octane gas because it was never under much load. The tires would spin before bogging.

I have a stupid amount of SBF stuff. Loose and in car 289/302 count comes in at 22 engines. Tunnel ram, funnel web, Torkers, cams, domes. I could run an engine a year until I croak. Every time I post things like this I feel more and more like a mental case.

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That was a fun car but having $22,000 dollars (in early 80's bucks, like a million now!) "invested" made it impossible to sell when everyone else's  $1000 V8 Pinto for sale was a $300 car with a $200 mid 70's smog 302. It meant having to pass on a 66 427 Fairlane and a 70 GT500 that came with a 428CJ still in it running and a complete 427 SOHC that he discovered won't fit.

22 grand? OK, maybe I'm not as much as a mental case as you. If I didn't have so many other projects I would consider this. I am really surprised nobody from the Pinto forum hasn't snatched it yet.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: Barry_R on June 06, 2018, 04:11:09 AM
Really, really like that thing.
Took my driver test in a 72 4 speed Pinto.
Wonder if an aluminum 482 would fit...???

I wonder if there are any weirdo Pinto fanatics that would consider it heresy to hack up a factory 4-speed A/C '72? I mean, I understand that kind of thing, really. If I buy it, what do you have to trade?

What do you want/need?  Dead serious.  I learned to drive in a 4 speed 72 when I was 14.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: Falcon67 on June 06, 2018, 09:14:17 AM
If that was closer I'd already be on the road with a trailer and cash.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: cammerfe on June 06, 2018, 10:30:30 AM
Tom, anything can be made to fit. I cracked a piston on my '72 Pinto, running with a pair of side-draft Webers and all the other stuff you'd expect. While re-doing the engine, I was looking at another project, a 429 SCJ engine setting on the floor, that we re-worked with a 460 crank for a local circle-track car that was sorta in the family.

Long story short, I put a full frame in it, chopped the top 4 inches, put a roll-cage in it, and the 466/C6 combo with a Versailles 9" rear axle. We set the engine behind the original firewall line and mounted two seats on the back seat footspace. Fibreglas front end, doors and rear quarters with 285-40X15 front tires and 335-35X15 Pirellis on the back, all on Weld wheels. Used the engine box from an E150 as the starting point for the new firewall. The driveshaft was only a bit more than a foot long. Car weighed 2260 with 1140 on the rear wheels. (I was writing for Super Ford at the time.)

Great fun until it was stolen.

KS
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
Mounting...peer group...pressure...must...resist...being...assimilated   :(
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 11:47:21 AM
Really, really like that thing.
Took my driver test in a 72 4 speed Pinto.
Wonder if an aluminum 482 would fit...???

I wonder if there are any weirdo Pinto fanatics that would consider it heresy to hack up a factory 4-speed A/C '72? I mean, I understand that kind of thing, really. If I buy it, what do you have to trade?

What do you want/need?  Dead serious.  I learned to drive in a 4 speed 72 when I was 14.

Negotiating without the goods would be sketchy, even for me. Let's see what happens. Ad is still up.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: Garyford on June 06, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
I got a 73 runabout from the kids last fall. It was stock until I took the thing apart to fix some rust in the floor and to add modern seat belts. I would really like to add some kind of truss/roll bar to reinforce the rear section over the wheel wells, that seems designed to crush the gas tank.

1) it is startling how bad those cars are, compared to anything modern.  It really feels prone to be rattling along in a tin box looking up at the smallest of modern cars.  So brace yourself.

2) it is refreshing how honest those cars are. Something to easily be fixed. No reverse lockout :) Fits on the local walking trail.  Handbrake turns are easily accomplished, especially on 15 year old rubber.

3) Everywhere we drove the thing it generated a nice response. Folks our age would invariably mouth "is that a Pinto?" as if they were emerging from a 30 year vegetative state.  Modern kids are much drawn to it, not sure what they are looking at especially when they witness my middle aged body trying to climb my way out of the very low seating position.

If you have time to drive it, I don't think you will be disappointed, even if you keep it stock.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: turbohunter on June 06, 2018, 01:32:25 PM
More arm twisting

https://www.google.com/search?q=pinto+drag+cars&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjU34jq07_bAhWCN30KHYrYDfcQ_AUIESgB&biw=1366&bih=931

Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: machoneman on June 06, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
You WILL be assimilated!

Mounting...peer group...pressure...must...resist...being...assimilated   :(
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 02:15:28 PM
More arm twisting

https://www.google.com/search?q=pinto+drag+cars&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjU34jq07_bAhWCN30KHYrYDfcQ_AUIESgB&biw=1366&bih=931

Aaargh!  You velly bad man.

Read the description on this vid. Raw grassroots. Love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0lxl0xlF-w
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 02:17:55 PM
You WILL be assimilated!

Mounting...peer group...pressure...must...resist...being...assimilated   :(

Dang me
Dang me
Ya oughta take a rope and hang me
Hang me from the highest treeeeee
Forum won't you weep for me
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 02:28:45 PM
Ford engineering:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9GGDOUDLhc
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
The hits just keep on coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVaIpsFldw

I have been assimilated.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: Barry_R on June 06, 2018, 04:51:09 PM
Buy the damn thing already.  I will send you my left...
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 06, 2018, 06:09:30 PM
Buy the damn thing already.  I will send you my left...

Check your PM box.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 07, 2018, 08:34:43 AM
Buy the damn thing already.  I will send you my left...

Check your PM box.

Tick Tock. Hey looky what I found.  https://www.jegs.com/i/Jegster/550/942005K1/10002/-1  I found five companies still selling Pinto kits. I am impressed.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 07, 2018, 04:36:04 PM
I am one with the Borg. Pinto is in gravitational orbit in back yard. Now in search for 7 of 9 to help with persistent pulsing protruberance. Will report later.
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: turbohunter on June 07, 2018, 05:09:43 PM
Congrats
Can’t wait
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 07, 2018, 09:35:41 PM
I was thinking a 7000 rpm solid lifter 289 or 302 with a T5 and 4.11 gears.  Call it the "Photon".  Or maybe "Pintophetamine"?

JMO,

paulie

Or I can "clone" that Mustang from the other thread, throw 70's graphics in it, and go with "Pintasia"
Title: Re: Someone please tell me I don't need this car...
Post by: FElony on June 07, 2018, 11:17:12 PM
How much horsepower to run 11.50 in a 4000-lb car (new Mustang GT with driver). How much hp to run same time at 2300 lbs (Tom P.'s weight for Pinto plus him)?