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Pricing has went up a hair.   Currently at $2072 a pair.   Get 'em while they're hot.

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Would there be a lot of interest in these?  It seems like every build I do, I'm having to grind, slot, file, etc., to get the pointer aimed at the correct spot on the balancer. 

I'm looking at having some billet aluminum pointers made, that would allow for up to 8° of adjustment.   These would sell for about $25 each and would work with either style timing cover. 

Interest?

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I'm doing a couple builds using Jay's new heads.  Jay provided me with the solid models and data so that I could get that information to Diamond.  They knocked out a full custom set of pistons for me in about 3 weeks.   Since they have the data now and have made pistons to suit, they can provide pistons for those cylinder heads at anytime. 

These are for a 511ci build, 4.375" x 4.250".  Moly coated skirts, vertical gas ports, setup for Molnar Power Adder rods and a .8mm ring pack.  I also had them provide a set of Trend tool steel H13 wrist pins since we will be pulling vacuum on the crankcase. 

Nice pieces.






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Vendor Classifieds / WTB: C8FE-6015B B302 Block
« on: August 24, 2021, 09:59:07 AM »
Please contact with leads or offers.

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FE Technical Forum / Warning against using ARP L19 rod bolts...
« on: August 21, 2021, 10:51:39 AM »
Guys,

A few years ago, I had a rod bolt break on a very high end race engine.  Luckily, it was idling on the dyno so it didn't hurt much, but it was still a punch in the gut.  The rods were Oliver and the bolts were ARP L19 bolts.  All of the rod bolts were torqued by the stretch method and recorded.  Before the oil pan went on, they were checked again, and I put my paint dabs on the bolt heads to indicate that they had been checked.  After the failure, we located both bolt heads, with my paint dabs still on them, with the bolt shanks still in the rod. 

I contacted Oliver about it, but of course they had never heard of such thing, so I wrote it off, repaired, and went on. 

Fast forward to yesterday, I went to dyno, and was discussing engine stuff with the guys there who build some pretty high end race stuff.   One of the guys told me that their shop rule was that whoever bolted the oil pan on also had to go through and check the rod bolts before the pan went on.  He was doing that very thing, cycling through and checking torque, when he rotated the engine over and found a rod cap missing a bolt.  On further inspection, the shank of the bolt was still in the rod, so he started looking around and found the rod bolt head laying on the floor 5-6' away from the engine.  It had broken under load, just sitting on the engine stand, after they had torqued the rod bolts upon assembly a day or two before. 

It was an ARP L19 bolt. 

After they remembered my own incident, they removed all the L19 bolts, threw them away, and installed ARP 2000 bolts. 

I'm telling you this to be cautious...most here won't have rods with those bolts in them, but if you do, please consider changing the bolts out to ARP 2000 or Custom Age 625 bolts if possible.  Obviously, these are isolated incidents, and obviously all L19 bolts won't fail, but you have to realize that these two incidents are not coincidental.   Please be careful.... 

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Any leads would be appreciated.

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Vendor Classifieds / Morel 5325 Standard Travel Hydraulic Roller Lifters
« on: August 13, 2021, 04:46:45 PM »
Prices are getting ready to go up.  I have 3 sets that I can sell at the current price ($450).  They will be going up to $540 next month.

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Vendor Classifieds / LMS Non-Adjustable Roller Rockers Back In Stock....
« on: August 04, 2021, 08:56:05 AM »
Been out of stock for a bit while Harland Sharp caught back up.  $450 + shipping.  Can also combine them with POP HD shafts, stands, end stands, spacers, and studs. 

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Out of the 352, am replacing them.  Dyno time only.  $250 for all valves.

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FE Technical Forum / Teardown on the 352 and future plans....
« on: July 21, 2021, 08:37:31 AM »
Teardown started on the 352 last Saturday morning.  I didn't have an engine stand freed up, so I completely tore it down while it was sitting on an engine cradle.  I'm expecting a medal based on my bravery and my ability to lay on the floor, brace my foot up against the bellhousing flange and use a breaker bar to loosen the rod/main bolts.  Well, it was either bravery or stupidity.  Maybe a little of both.  On second thought, it was pretty much all stupidity.

I couldn't be more happier with how the 352 performed or how reliable it was.  Between the first dyno iteration (not counting when we dyno'd it in stock 2V form) and the last iteration, we picked up almost 100 horsepower, going from 433 hp to 531.  I checked the oil filter after each dyno session and each time I was rewarded with a completely clean filter media. 

What I ended up in final form was a 352 with factory heads and 10.25:1 compression that ended up making 531 at 7200 rpm with 457 lb-ft of torque.  At .040" overbore, it made for 359 cubic inches, which ended up making 1.48 hp/ci.  I'm pleased.  FWIW, as a comparison, my bracket race 347's for 7/7.50 index will usually make about 540 hp with AFR heads, 11:1 compression, etc.  Now, to be fair, they will do it with a lot less camshaft than the 352 had, but there's a testament to how well a factory headed combination can behave. 

I was also happy to be able to do so many dyno sessions close together.  I'm not happy as to why I had that much spare time though, because there are a lot of parts manufacturers that really have the motorsports industry in a real bind right now.  Pistons are taking 12-16 weeks.  Heads are non-existent.  Intakes are non-existent.  Lifters are non-existent.   How we are supposed to get engines out the door is something that no one has an answer to right now.  But I digress....

If you remember, I first started the build with my non-adjustable roller tip rockers.  This was an exercise in patience and critical measuring, as trying to nail lash with nothing but pushrod length, lash caps, and lash cam shims, almost whipped my hindend.  It wasn't really a desire to make a non-adjustable roller rocker work with a solid cam, but it was a desire to *really* test the rocker setup out since the valve springs were set up at 680 lbs open.  The rockers made it through like a champ and then since I had the heads ported and the valve job changed, I switched over to T&D street rockers. 

I have always ran T&D streets at around 600 lbs of spring pressure and then upgraded from there.  However, this time, I wanted to try a new locating method to keep down some of the sloppiness  associated with a stand hole that's bigger than the stand stud and the resulting rocker stand fretting.  The heads were setup with TimeSerts in the stand holes and then the bottoms of the rocker stands were counterbored so that we could fit bronze bushings inside.  The bushings were reamed to fit the stand studs and this locked in the entire rocker assembly.  Fretting disappeared and lash stayed constant.  I will use this option for future Tunnel Port head setups as converting those to T&D paired rockers can be excruciating.

IMO, both of those points were fitting for a "dyno mule" and I'm pleased with the results.

I was mainly interested to get down to the pistons and bearings.  I didn't expect much considering how clean the tops of the cylinder heads were and how clean the filter was, but it's always interesting to see what's been going on. 

When the heads came off the first thing I noticed was that all 8 pistons had been giving the heads a slight smooch on the quench pads.  I purposefully built the engine with a tight quench, with the pistons being .005" above deck and using a 1020 head gasket.  That's a .036" piston/head clearance and even though the piston was so tall (1.920" compression height) and the piston/cylinder clearance was set at about .0035", the piston obviously still rocked considerably.  Considerably enough that there was a nice ring around the top of each piston where the carbon had been knocked off.  Piston #4 apparently liked the head a little more than the others, as it apparently had been tongue kissing the head instead of smooching. 





I pulled the timing cover and dropped the oil pan.  That's a fun little task with the engine sitting on the cradle, but once the pan is sitting on the floor, I was able to unbolt the pickup and slide everything forward.  The timing chain didn't lose any tension and once the entire timing set was removed, the cam thrust plate was inspected and showed no signs of anything being amiss.   The camshaft came out and a first look at the cam bearings showed a clean bill of health there as well.  FWIW, I do not "clock" the cam bearings, but just line up the holes in the bearings with the oil feed hole in the mains.  With 680 lbs of spring pressure and a regular old F-33 bearing, everything looked absolutely great.  I think a lot of guys don't actually check cam bearing clearance, so they don't know when something is actually tight.  Even though a cam bearing is more forgiving, a tight cam bearing clearance will wear just like a tight main or rod bearing.

A quick rotating torque check on the short block showed a very smooth 7 lb-ft result and then I started pulling rod bearing caps and pushing the piston/rod assemblies out. 

When I had listed each dyno iteration on the dyno results page of this forum, I had listed that the rod bearings were coated.  That was an error on my part, as the rod bearings were not coated, but were just plain-Jane Federal Mogul "non-race" rod bearings.  Rod bearing clearances were setup at .003", as is my SOP with factory FE rod journal diameters.  The bearings looked great and if it weren't for the fact that I need doweled bearings (more on that later) I would just coat them and reuse them.  Keep in mind that there were no "oiling mods" done to this engine except for the oil pump mounting flange hole being blended in.  Nothing was drilled out or opened up.  All gallery plugs were converted to pipe thread and since the drain holes in the lifter valley were plugged, the drains to the rear and front of the valley were opened up. 

Piston skirts looked great and the pistons were removed from the rods so that I could ship the rods up to Nightmist66 after he bought them. 

Removing the crank was also fun.  I pulled all the middle main bearing caps (bearings looked fabulous, will reuse them), then put a box under the crank and then slowly dropped the front and rear caps.  Once the crank was sitting on the box, I used an engine hoist and picked everything up off the crank. 



Ok, so for future plans....

I dropped the block off yesterday to be baked/tumbled/blasted and will take the block down to bare bones again.  New pistons are coming in from my boys at Racetec in a 4.060" bore to fit the new aluminum rods, so the block will be bored/honed and the other machined surfaces will be touched up.  We will be going to a satin black scheme instead of a '66 Ford Blue scheme next time, so the guys saying that a solid lifter FE should be black will leave me alone.   ;D

The crank won't need anything except rebalancing with the new rods/pistons.

The rods are brand new aluminum rods from R&R and I had them drill some FE rod bearings for me so that they would work with the dowels. 



The cylinder heads will also be freshened up and I'll be upping the valve sizes from 2.08/1.6 to 2.160/1.65.  No other needs there, no valve spring changes, etc.  The same intake adapter/tunnel ram will be used and my only plan there is to change to an offset cup lifter so I can have a little more pushrod clearance.  I used 3/8" diameter pushrods, but it would be nice to be able to run a 7/16" on the next iteration. 

I will be using the same camshaft as I've always used as it's proven to be the money-maker.   I did try another camshaft last Friday afternoon for giggles and it proved to not be as optimal.  It was just a last moment quick-change and used essentially the same camshaft duration and lift, but a 2° wider LSA.  It lost 20 hp and torque.

The new pistons will be domed to bump up the compression a little over 2 points and will feature .8mm rings.  In conjunction, they are also gas ported so that I can use a vacuum pump.  I don't quite think I'll hit 600 hp with the next iteration, but I'd like to get at least 575 hp out of her.  We will see.




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Vendor Classifieds / Selling some parts off of the 352....
« on: July 17, 2021, 09:37:40 AM »
I'm done with dyno'ing and will be pulling the 352 down.

The rods are already sold, but I plan on selling some other parts:

1.  Leftover cam, custom Comp solid roller, 256/266 @ .050", 109 LSA, .686"/.706" gross valve lift.  One dyno session only (2 pulls).  Will selling for $225 + shipping.

2.  Kevko deep front sump oil pan and pickup.  Pan is painted Ford blue, has a couple of paint scrapes.  $150 + shipping for pan and pickup.

3.  Comp Cams solid roller lifters.  Dyno time only.  $150

4.  Custom Racetec pistons.  These are for a 352 block with 6.490" rods.  Flat tops, 6cc valve reliefs, 1.920" compression height, 1mm/1mm/2mm.  $250 + shipping. 

All of these items will be for sale when I get the engine disassembled (I'm planning for next weekend to do that).  If in the event that anything is damaged upon inspection and I don't feel comfortable selling, then I'll make that known.  At this point, if anyone is interested in any of the parts, just speak up and put your name down and I'll contact you when it's all apart.

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.....going from yard to yard, checking the car doors of all the cars that were sitting outside. 

The neighbor at the end of our cul-de-sac texted and said she had video of one guy using a slim-jim on my truck's doors.  They didn't get anything.

This absolutely infuriates me and there's nothing I can do about it.  No one got clear enough video to make an identification.  We have the Ring on our front door and our rear deck, but it didn't pick anything up.  We ordered another remote camera that we can center out in the driveway. 

Just venting.  I work hard to take care of my family and these low-lives are too lazy to work, so they steal.   I'd hate to catch them out there.  I wouldn't be able to shoot them, so I've been thinking about what I would do.  Paintball gun?  OC spray? 

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Performance Summary:
      Cubic Inches:  359             Dyno brand:  Stuska
      Power Adder:                    Where dynoed:  Dale Meers Racing Engines, Buffalo, KY
      Peak Horsepower:  531 @ 7200
      Peak Torque:  457 @ 5600


Engine Specifications:
   Block brand, material, finished bore size, other notes:  Factory C6ME-A, 4.040"
     
   Crankshaft brand, cast or forged, stroke, journal size:  FoMoCo cast 352 crankshaft, .020"/.020"
     
   Connecting Rods brand, material, center to center distance, end sizes, bolts:  Molnar Ford FE 6.490"

   Piston brand, material (caster, hypereutectic or forged), dish/dome volume, static CR:  Racetec 4032, 1.920" compression height, flat top, 10.2:1

   Main Bearings, Rod Bearings, Cam Bearings brand and size:  Calico coated King main bearings, Calico coated King rod bearings, Durabond FP-33 cam bearings

   Piston rings brand, size, other notes:  Mahle 4.040", 1mm/1mm/2mm

   Oil Pump, pickup, and drive:  Melling M57HV, custom pickup, ARP drive

   Oil pan, windage tray, oil filter adapter:  Custom 7 quart pan with oil control gates

   Camshaft brand, type (hyd/solid, flat tappet or roller), lift and duration (adv and @.050"):  Custom Lykins Motorsports solid roller, 256/266 @ .050", 106 LSA, .650"/.670" lift at valve

   Lifters brand, type:  Comp Cams Endure-X

   Timing chain and timing cover: FE Power adjustable timing set and factory timing cover

   Cylinder heads brand, material, port and chamber information:  C6AE-R, JDC Ported

   Flow bench used, location:  Not flowed

   Intake valve brand, head size, stem size:  Custom 2.080", 5/16" stem stainless
 
   Exhaust valve brand, head size, stem size:  Custom 1.600", 5/16" stem stainless
   
   Valve springs brand, part number, specs:  PAC small diameter dual spring

   Retainers and locks brand, part number, specs:  Manley titanium retainers, Manley locks, Victory lash caps

   Rocker arm brand, type (adjustable or non-adj), material, ratio:  Modified T&D Street, 1.76:1

   Rocker shafts and stands, brand, material:  T&D

   Pushrods brand, type, length:  Trend, 3/8" .135"

   Valve covers, brand, type:   Chrome PBF

   Distributor brand, advance curve information:  Factory Ford, locked out, Pertronix conversion

   Harmonic balancer brand:   Powerbond

   Water pump brand, type (mechanical or electric):   New cast iron replacement

   Intake manifold brand, material, porting information:  Ported FE Power adapter, ported Weiand 351C Tunnel Ram, 1/2" shear plates, 1/2" opens

   Carburetor(s) brand, type:  (2) Custom Holley 660's from Drew P

   Exhaust manifolds or headers brand, type:  Dyno headers, 2" tubes

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These are the new TKX transmissions, 2.87 1st gear, .68 over drive and .81 overdrive respectively.

$2795 plus shipping.

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Took off to take the 352 to the dyno again today, with the only changes being the new custom 660's and some shear plates.

First pull out of the gate was 512 hp @ 7000, just like last time, but this time the new carbs were rich on the driver's side.  Pulling 2 numbers out of both carb secondaries got us back to 12.5-13:1 A/F ratio and picked us up to 523 hp with 449 lb-ft of torque.  Another pull backed that one up with  524 hp. 

I'm pretty sure I either had 30W break-in oil in it or 20W-50 when I put oil in it months ago.  My gut is leaning towards 20W-50 Brad Penn.  Either way, I dumped all the oil out and filled a new filter with a quart of Driven 5W-20, then put another 6 quarts of Driven in the engine.   Cranked it without the ignition on to get the oil pressure up, then lit it off again.  Right off the bat, I noticed the oil pressure was quite a bit lower than the old oil was when we started it for the first time this morning.  However, we were still getting 80 psi at the top of a 7500 rpm pull.  The oil change was worth 6 hp.  We were now at 530 hp. 

From that point, we started playing around with different spacers.

I had originally installed the carbs with a Magnafuel 1/2" shear plate on the bottom and a Moroso 1/2" open spacer on the top. 

Pulling those off and putting on two 1" Super Suckers got us 529 hp and 450 lb-ft. 

Using a 1/2" Super Sucker (it has 1/2" of "fingers" that stick down into the plenums) and a 1/2" 4-hole top got us 530 hp and 452 lb-ft. 

Using the Magnafuel 1/2" shear plates and 4-hole 1/2" spacers on top of those got us to 531 hp @ 7200 and 457 lb-ft at 5600.  This combination also had the highest average hp and torque measured from 5000 rpm to 7000 rpm. 

We were making pulls to 7500 each time.

I hope to be able to free up an engine stand in the next couple weeks and pull it all down.   A couple of forum members have dibs on some rods and some other parts, so I need to get it all apart.  My goal for the next iteration with more compression and different rotating assembly parts will be 575 hp. 

I can't say enough about this little 352.  It has completely pulled through for me each time and just keeps on singing to 7500 rpm, over and over again.  I think we estimated 50-60 dyno pulls so far.  I wish I would have kept track.  1.48 hp/ci is nothing to sneeze at.  If it had been a 390, that would be 577 hp and if it had been a 445 pulling that ratio, it would be 658 hp.  Pretty proud of the little feller.

For those who are wanting to keep track, we picked up 19 hp and 11 lb-ft over last time. 

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