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Cammer chain idler and tensioner bearings
« on: February 23, 2023, 01:34:32 AM »
Does anyone have part numbers for the chain idler and tensioner bearings?

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Re: Cammer chain idler and tensioner bearings
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2023, 02:27:58 PM »
Reading the bearings that I have, the fuel pump gear gets a 6205 C3, and the stub cam nose and idler arm gear get a 6204 C3.  The box for the the stub cam nose and idler arm gear says 6204-2NSE9.  Hope that helps - Jay
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Re: Cammer chain idler and tensioner bearings
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2023, 06:17:20 PM »
Yes that helps.  Thanks.

By the way, before he passed away I spoke to Jim Greene about modifications he did to his cammers.  He mentioned modifying the mounting location of the idler gear pedistal/base to prevent it from tilting or flexing under load. I believe he attributed the flex from the gasket under the center of the pedistal (behind the back plate) with no support on the sides of the pedistal/base.  He felt this flexing was causing a slight misalignment of the chain and sprocket causing premature wear.  He said before he performed this modification he was only getting 15,000 miles from a chain set.  After the modification he never experience another failure well beyond 15k miles.
I don't remember exactly what he modified but I believe he replace the gasket directly under the pedistal/base with a steel shim (same thickness of the gasket).  This shim still wouldn't support the edges of the pedistal/base but it would not flex under load like a cork gasket would thus preventing slight misalignment. 

Have you heard anything about this?  Or is this a non-issue?
 
ERA 427SC Cobra: Iron ‘67 625hp 482” SOHC, TKX 5 speed, TrueTrac 3.31 IRS, Magnesium Halibrands, Avon CR6ZZ tires. 

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2012 Cobra Jet Mustang factory drag car, 5.4 liter 4.0 Whipple, 970 RWHP.

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Re: Cammer chain idler and tensioner bearings
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2023, 10:49:30 AM »
I've never heard of that issue, and I've never had a chain actually wear out, although I have had a couple break.  One thing is that the gasket under the backing plate is not cork, they are just paper gaskets so they don't have a lot of flex to them.  In any case, I don't see any reason why you couldn't cut a piece of sheet metal to the same dimensions as that gasket, RTV it on both sides and use that instead of the paper gasket.  Couldn't hurt...
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC